LesserAbe
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- Comment on Expecting a LLM to become conscious, is like expecting a painting to become alive 5 days ago:
I responded to your other comment, but yes, I think you could set up an llm agent with a camera and microphone and then continuously provide sensory input for it to respond to. (In the same way I’m continuously receiving input from my “camera” and “microphones” as long as I’m awake)
- Comment on Expecting a LLM to become conscious, is like expecting a painting to become alive 5 days ago:
I’m just a person interested in / reading about the subject so I could be mistaken about details, but:
When we train an LLM we’re trying to mimic the way neurons work. Training is the really resource intensive part. Right now companies will train a model, then use it for 6-12 months or whatever before releasing a new version.
When you and I have a “conversation” with chatgpt, it’s always with that base model, it’s not actively learning from the conversation, in the sense that new neural pathways are being created. What’s actually happening is a prompt that looks like this is submitted: "{{openai crafted preliminary prompt}} + “Abe: Hello I’m Abe”.
Then it replies, and the next thing I type gets submitted like this: "{{openai crafted preliminary prompt}} + "Abe: Hello I’m Abe + {{agent response}} + “Abe: Good to meet you computer friend!”
And so on. Each time, you’re only talking to that base level llm model, but feeding it the history of the conversation at the same time as your new prompt.
You’re right to point out that now they’ve got the agents self-creating summaries of the conversation to allow them to “remember” more. But if we’re trying to argue for consciousness in the way we think of it with animals, not even arguing for humans yet, then I think the ability to actively synthesize experiences into the self is a requirement.
A dog remembers when it found food in a certain place on its walk or if it got stabbed by a porcupine and will change its future behavior in response.
Again I’m not an expert, but I expect there’s a way to incorporate this type of learning in nearish real time, but besides the technical work of figuring it out, doing so wouldn’t be very cost effective compared to the way they’re doing it now.
- Comment on Expecting a LLM to become conscious, is like expecting a painting to become alive 6 days ago:
Yeah, it seems like the major obstacles to saying an llm is conscious, at least in an animal sense, is 1) setting it up to continuously evaluate/generate responses even without a user prompt and 2) allowing that continuous analysis/response to be incorporated into the llm training.
The first one seems like it would be comparatively easy, get sufficient processing power and memory, then program it to evaluate and respond to all previous input once a second or whatever
The second one seems more challenging, as I understand it training an llm is very resource intensive. Right now when it “remembers” a conversation it’s just because we prime it by feeding every previous interaction before the most recent query when we hit submit.
- Comment on We all know people like this who deal with the horror and yet never complain. They are heroes 1 week ago:
- Comment on Not to get all religous but was not Jesus pissed for people making money in churches? Didn't he flip tables and everything? Then how do churches nowadays explain the collection plate? 2 weeks ago:
I’m an atheist, but if you read about Jesus specifically you won’t find a lot of hate.
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- Comment on Open Source Power 3 weeks ago:
Thanks for sharing. Although I’m an enthusiastic open source user, I haven’t written any code of significance, so I’m not aware: has anyone made a license where use is restricted to individuals and democratically controlled organizations? I’m picturing that would allow for some degree of profit motive while encouraging things like worker co-ops and excluding venture capital controlled entities.
- Comment on Robot rescues Ukrainian soldier trapped 33 days behind Russian lines, navigating minefields and mortar strikes 4 weeks ago:
Pretty cool. Does make me wonder functionally if the robot part actually increases the odds of success, or if it just means fewer people put at risk. Because it both came under fire and hit a mine. But maybe because it’s smaller it was less likely to be detected than a crewed vehicle? Maybe it would have been hit more or more fatally if it was larger?
- Comment on Bluesky experiments with dislikes and 'social proximity' to improve conversations 4 weeks ago:
I did read it. Here’s the company post that the article references and links to.
The social proximity thing is about replies to posts. Since replies are often a mix of people I follow and people I don’t, I think it could be helpful to prioritize replies from people who are connected to those I already follow.
They say the dislike button will apply to “Discover and other feeds” which is a little less relevant to me because I don’t use discover. Maybe I’d check it out more if it was better.
It would still be important to me that I have my unfiltered feed of posts by everyone I follow in chronological order. The post by Bluesky doesn’t indicate they’re changing that.
Even so, if they were actually altering that feed, my understanding is that you can switch to a different front end which uses whatever ordering/display logic you prefer. Catch of course being someone has to have created and maintained such a front end, and many people will just stick with the default option.
- Comment on Bluesky experiments with dislikes and 'social proximity' to improve conversations 4 weeks ago:
I’m not here to tell you that their motives are pure. But I don’t see how a dislike button or social proximity are enshittification. And I don’t see how it’s tighter reliance on their control.
Is Lemmy having the ability to downvote enshittification? That’s what drew me to Reddit and now to Lemmy. It pushes less useful/interesting content down and brings better content to the front (generally)
Is showing you posts from people connected to people connected to you enshittification? That’s a feature I genuinely like about LinkedIn. I’ve seen posts from people I know but wasn’t connected to yet. I’ve seen pictures from events I attended but uploaded but people I don’t know personally.
- Comment on Bluesky experiments with dislikes and 'social proximity' to improve conversations 5 weeks ago:
I don’t know, I could see that improving the experience.
- Comment on Why did Thanos, with the power of all the infinity stones, never think to try doubling the amount of resources in the world? 1 month ago:
Because the only way Marvel movies know how to ratchet up the stakes is having more and more people die.
- Comment on Photographer combines family faces together to show genetic similarities 1 month ago:
Thanks for sharing this link!
- Comment on When this aired, it was a joke. 2 months ago:
I don’t know OP’s intent but there is a genre of porn where the one person isn’t into it, but it’s not rape. It would be like them playing a video game or washing dishes and being indifferent/unresponsive to the other person having sex with them.
- Comment on Why is it called linux phone? 2 months ago:
Sorry friend, but if someone is asking a question, telling them to read about it rather than provide the meat of the answer doesn’t seem too helpful.
You’re under no obligation to explain anything to anyone, but if you’re going to take the time to respond why not elaborate?
- Comment on How often do guys have a haircut? 2 months ago:
I don’t get my hair cut that frequently, but to each their own. This was downvoted to zero when I found it, I like to imagine one of the “six months” or “never” guys were responsible.
- Comment on How often do guys have a haircut? 2 months ago:
Yeah, I used to go to a place where they’d schedule me out based on three weeks, which I liked better, but now this new place leaves it to me to remember and schedule myself. I don’t remember, so it’s closer to 4-5 weeks.
- Comment on Never get a tattoo when you are drunk 2 months ago:
I worked with a guy who let his friend tattoo him while they were both on LSD. It wasn’t as long as this, I think it was just one word but it was in this style handwriting.
- Comment on Kick faces possible $49 M fine after French streamer Jean Pormanove dies on air 3 months ago:
This is helpful, thanks.
- Comment on Help. 3 months ago:
I don’t understand the segment of people who were excited to come up with a new slur for AI. Plus it’s not even effective. It doesn’t make sense, doesn’t bite. Computers don’t clank, not even robots clank anymore. Are we in Battlestar Galactica or something
- Comment on Sounds like a plan 3 months ago:
I think it would have worked better if the comment wasn’t prefaced with “it’s cute you think” which is inherently insulting.
The meme is already self deprecating, like “haha things aren’t looking good for me” so they’re aware of the situation. It’s just heaping an insult and bad news on someone who already is experiencing a negative outlook.
- Comment on F*ck off Arnie, you're out of your element! 3 months ago:
Do you mean the redistricting in Texas? That’s why the Dem reps left the state, because they know they would lose the vote, but if they deny “quorum” (aka that there’s enough people to hold a session of the legislature) then a vote can’t be held.
This same thing actually happened in Texas back in 2003, but the Dems caved that time. Article: talkingpointsmemo.com/…/texas-redistricting-quoru…
- Comment on F*ck off Arnie, you're out of your element! 3 months ago:
The people we send to Congress have to answer to voters. We’ve seen how little resistance elites and organizations have put up, even ones ostensibly on our side.
“Our” representatives who come from gerrymandered districts will owe their seat to party leaders, not the voters. So they will cater to those leaders, not voters.
Would they take some actions which counter Trump? Yes. Will they take drastic actions to actually prevent further fascist advances? Probably not. Because most Democratic leaders are out of touch and answer to big donors. They’re not going to pack the supreme court, they’re not going to make DC a state, etc.
I’m a little sympathetic to Newsom’s talk about a referendum vote on having gerrymandered districts only for five years. But I think if he moves ahead with that it should be tied explicitly to what Texas does. If Texas passes their crooked map then the California map is revised too, otherwise nothing happens.
- Comment on F*ck off Arnie, you're out of your element! 3 months ago:
I haven’t seen any news about Arnold commenting on this situation, can you share?
That said, I’m a socialist, I’ve been campaigning against gerrymandering in my state since 2016, and I think blue states getting rid of their independent redistricting commissions (if they have them) is a really bad idea.
Yes, the situation is terrible, and I’m glad the Texas Dems fled to prevent quorum. I think extreme measures are called for. I also think they should be extreme measures that increase democratic rule, not reduce it.
- Comment on [deleted] 3 months ago:
It’s not just the US. It’s pretty much every country with a high standard of living.
- Comment on [deleted] 3 months ago:
Right, but we could have the same number of people while being ecologically sustainable. The problem seems like more one of distribution and technology, not total number of people. And besides, what’s the alternative? So I think it’s ok to say it’s a good thing the population outlook is downward while recognizing we’ve still got problems
- Comment on [deleted] 3 months ago:
I could be mistaken but based on recent demographic trends I don’t think people are talking about overpopulation much these days. Seems to be a trend that industrialized countries population goes down. China is looking at falling below replacement rate. Of course there’s the argument that we already have too many people, but if everyone starts going down then hey problem solved
- Comment on [deleted] 4 months ago:
Besides what the other commenter replied, with Trump there’s a special value in controlling his agenda because often the last person he talks to will have the most sway. There have been stories about his appointees taking advantage of a rival appointee being away or in a meeting, and getting Trump to issue an order or even just tweet a position on something so it’s harder to walk back when someone else gets his ear.
- Comment on Anyone have one of these? 4 months ago:
I think what the other commenter was getting at is you can access a cellular connection (wireless) in a land line format
- Comment on Anyone have one of these? 4 months ago:
I think what the other commenter was getting at is you can access a cellular connection (wireless) in a land line format
