Juice
@Juice@midwest.social
- Comment on Directions 12 hours ago:
No it was a test, you failed.
Austraillia has 2 L’s and 2 eyes
- Comment on Directions 14 hours ago:
Shits crazy
- Comment on Directions 14 hours ago:
Why does this picture of Australia have North written all over it?
- Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 23 hours ago:
I see where you are coming from now, I misunderstood your intent. I took what you meant as “its good to use these buttons because that’s why the platform has them,” which I disagree with every which way!
But you were actually saying the design of the platform causes the behavior, the platforms hurt discourse more than individual users who’s understanding (or misunderstanding) of how a vote button is supposed to be used is an ambiguity that is inherent to the platform. Which, yes I agree with that also, and it is a better point to make than which user is vicious or virtuous in using the platform.
I make similar criticisms often about structural basis for social movements, but admittedly I have a blind spot for tech platforms. Not because I’m bad with tech, but because I’m pretty good with it. I do tend to think of these platforms as neutral, but that’s more of a bias than a product of analysis. I’d like to unlearn the bias.
You seem pretty advanced in your understanding, is this something that you’ve just thought about, or are you in community, or educating yourself by other means? I could use a little of that in my own work, as I am aware of this bias but still wasting time and energy because of it
Anyway, holy shit its a conversation if either of us had the attitude of “downvote and go” then I’d have missed your actual intention. Another tendency of online discourse is for people to take the dimmest possible interpretation of others opinions. I guess I also fall in this trap, at least around certain topics
- Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 1 day ago:
Thanks for the heads up I’m gonna go get banned from a shitty elon musk fan community. Badge of honor as far as I’m concerned
- Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 1 day ago:
This is so revealing, I always thought “why not engage with an opinion I disagree with?” Now I see that engaging with it might bring attention to it, even if it were to help us learn and teach.
Instead people want to push the punish button, to be a nameless and unidentifiable avatar of hegemony. Our role in history is to suppress the ideas of others and boost those ideas which we’ve adopted. Hide what we are uncomfortable looking at, even if it is only an opinion, and let the people who control our own opinions continue to push their own agenda without obstacles.
People actually want to remain ignorant, and not develop discourse; people want a closed discourse away from disagreement. When we create our logins, our online identities, we want to remain anonymous and detached from reality. We don’t want those who disagree with us to be considered human with differing opinions, because we don’t see our own opinions as human.
Every interaction is a conflict, and conflict is hard, so I’ll punish this other person. I’ll play my part as a silent executioner, murdering ideas by consensus without a thought as to why I disagree, or why the other person disagrees with me. I’m powerless but at least I can take away someone else’s power.
- Comment on I just beat Bloodborne for the first today, and it's probably one of the best playthroughs of a video game that i have ever had and stories of one as well. 4 days ago:
Lol yeah that would be nice. I’ve heard of ppl playing it on emulator, but its always a streamer or modding micro celeb.
- Comment on What is it called when you believe the U.S. political parties shouldn’t exist? 4 days ago:
Idealism
- Comment on I just beat Bloodborne for the first today, and it's probably one of the best playthroughs of a video game that i have ever had and stories of one as well. 4 days ago:
Wow how did you make that work?
- Comment on THIS JUST IN: FBI suspects Kirk was likely targeted, more info to come 4 days ago:
Yeah that’s about what I found too
- Comment on THIS JUST IN: FBI suspects Kirk was likely targeted, more info to come 5 days ago:
Wild. The video itself is getting memory holed. I found a version published by the guardian that has the section of video with a glitch cut out.
I found this one that still has the glitchy frames. Its around 1:05, “Charlie was a patriot…”
- Comment on THIS JUST IN: FBI suspects Kirk was likely targeted, more info to come 5 days ago:
Here’s a video of Trump today reddit.com/…/trumps_face_appeared_noticeably_droo…
Here’s a video of him yesterday. x.com/disclosetv/status/…/mediaViewer?currentTwee…
In the second video, there’s even a weird glitch at about 18 seconds, where he says “Charlie was a patriot” and if you look over his head there’s like a shift or something that is noticeable.
I noticed this yesterday, I think its at least edited, but seeing him today…he does not look quite as feisty as usual. Its not worth spending time on, proving that a video was faked is not exactly the most pressing issue of our time. But I think there’s merit to the claim
- Comment on Step 1: Delete 1 week ago:
I’m going to convert a bulldozer into this so I can crash it into statues that I don’t like
- Comment on Step 1: Delete 1 week ago:
Where’s the source file? I’m adding this to my 3d low poly game
- Comment on Step 1: Delete 1 week ago:
Every kitty’s body is different, probably
- Comment on bet you can think of more 2 weeks ago:
Get organized! Its the only one that matters!
Quitting socmed is good because its fucking up your brain probably, and it will likely change you for the better. Internal change and development is revolutionary, it is actually an act of resistance.
Consumerist action only matters when part of a larger campaign, so get with BDS or maybe veganism but don’t get sucked into thinking like vegans, they’re too individualistic and hostile to solidarity.
Support real artist, good I love it, but see if you can get artists working on a project as part of organizing. Every group needs artists so if you know some, get them to make some revolutionary art.
Being mean to cops doesn’t really matter but it’s better than being nice to them, and I’ve seen people be like “oh I actually hate cops but we still have to work with them on this” which is so fucked up and wrongheaded I will literally attack people like this if they don’t respond to education. So fuck cops and keep them out of organizing and mobilizing spaces.
But please get organized! The fact it isn’t on here is in fact suspicious.
- Comment on Laser 2 weeks ago:
Skill issue
- Comment on He really said this, look it up! 2 weeks ago:
Being a Marxist means dealing with actual material conditions, and recentering the human subject, thoughts and experiences, within a material analysis. The materialism that came before, and persists to this day is a kind of analysis that divides everything into categories, hides systematic relations, and hides the human spirit from scientific progress. Marx identified these problems in Theses of Feuerbach in 1844, and spent the rest of his life developing solutions, which went on to found whole social scientific disciplines, and inspire revolutionary change.
Marxism is a revolutionary worldview which centers the human experience as objective. If you think you’re a free thinker, but hasn’t studied Marx in an intentional and practical way, then you’re not. You are defaulting ideological methods that affirm the ruling ideology.
The reason I’m a Marxist is because I want to help get people from that default stage to the next stage, which is Marxism. After that, then maybe we can surpass Marx, and in some ways many Marxists have. But its very difficult to achieve without Marx. In fact someone with less education would probably be more suited to move bast dualist rationalism than virtually any academic. But within Marxism ideas don’t matter until they are put into practice in order to prove themselves in the real world, not just old books. The philosophers have only interpreted the world, the point is to change it
- Comment on He really said this, look it up! 2 weeks ago:
As a Marxist I uncritically believe everything with this guys face on it
- Comment on Wealth inequality seems like the only outcome in a system where capital gains are taxed less than labor 3 weeks ago:
I’ve not read much Kropotkin, I started his book on the French Rev but got pulled into other stuff. Need to get back to it.
I am a huge fan of Malatesta though
- Comment on 95% of Companies See ‘Zero Return’ on $30 Billion Generative AI Spend, MIT Report Finds 3 weeks ago:
Hypothesiseses
- Comment on Wealth inequality seems like the only outcome in a system where capital gains are taxed less than labor 3 weeks ago:
Read Marx
- Comment on A handful of people are slowly killing over 8 billion people, but we're expected to sit idly by and let it happen 4 weeks ago:
What is what you thought? I’ve encountered lots of people who talk tough about violent class war. And they ain’t doing shit.
If you’re serious, buy weapons and start a gay worker militia. You will get a bunch of members pretty quickly, and it will teach you how things actually work when you try to organize against forces that are organized against us.
You’re right, violent means will be necessary. But that’s not the path I’m on, at least not as far as I can tell. If that’s your path, then make it meaningful, get people together and throw your collective weight around. My criticism of your methods will be based on your actual tactics and strategy, but like I said, I support the formation of armed defense militias. But I can’t form them, its not what I’m committed to, and I’d like to keep a worker defense militia separate from the political influence until they are strong enough to set their own agenda.
But I suspect that you can’t think of anything, imagine anything, but total annihilation. After all, its easier to imagine the end of the world than an end to capitalism. So take the easy way out, dream of apocalypse, it is surely coming without all the people locked into toxic spirals of despair, which serves the billionaires. Your hopelessness and impotent threats serve the ruling class. Kill one and there will be a line of people just as depraved and psychotic to replace him.
Or, get off your ass and start a revolution. Put up or shut up. Individual talk is meaningless. Collective action can change history. So if you thought that you are in the first group and I was in the second, then you thought correctly. But I think there’s more to you than that. Call it a difference of opinion.
- Comment on A handful of people are slowly killing over 8 billion people, but we're expected to sit idly by and let it happen 4 weeks ago:
You’re so full of shit.
First, I’m older than you think.
Second, organizing is not the same as yelling at empty government buildings for 3 hours on a weekend at a protest. That’s mobilizing, not organizing.
Third, all of the anarchists in my city are in orgs and groups, fight cops and engage in mutual aid. You aren’t advocating for anarchism, you are advocating for terrorism. What has terrorism ever accomplished but make the enemy stronger? That’s why the billionaires funds terrorist orgs, because they want forever war. You aren’t an anarchist. Malatesta was an anarchist, and he said to improve yourself and get organized.
I know dozens of old heads who are organized revolutionaries, and fight like hell on multiple fronts. You don’t sound old and wise, you sound like a 17 year old edgelord. Clueless, naive, edgy.
The idea that getting organized is somehow toothless reformism is just patently, hilariously false. You say you want to spit roast the billionaires, but you are carrying water for them. You are their bitch.
Do better, join an org, fight for the future
- Comment on A handful of people are slowly killing over 8 billion people, but we're expected to sit idly by and let it happen 4 weeks ago:
I’m not saying pacifism. What is a pacifist going to do when the ruling class uses incredible violence against us? Just like they do every day, with no warning or reason? I’m not a hand-wringing liberal, but mass murder is not a viable option. Violence creates problems that can only be responded to, and solved, with violence. And sometimes, its necessary to defend our selves, our class, our communities. I would recommend a kind of armed nonviolence such as was practiced by the Deacons of Defense and Justice (but don’t believe the liberal distortions, they were tough.) Armed defense, shoot at us and we shoot back. The revolutionary activity must be defended. But violence is a tactic, not a strategy.
There are revolutionary socialist orgs you can join. No one here is advocating for reformism. But an individual using violence or not, can’t affect change. If you actually care to affect change you will get organized somehow. If not then you can complain online, and make sure your perspectives are never heard or boosted by anyone. Seems like a shame to me, I’d rather you were with us.
But if you aren’t organized, you are actually part of the problem, because the default without anyone doing anything, is the billionaires use their violence against us. Sounds like you are tired of being part of the problem, but can’t see any options. Well, I’m telling you, there are options.
- Comment on A handful of people are slowly killing over 8 billion people, but we're expected to sit idly by and let it happen 4 weeks ago:
The majority of those 8 billion live in China. Belt and Road is increasing life expectancy in the third world. Life expectancy in the US is declining.
I’m not even an uncritical China supporter, but you’re falling for a statistical trick. The billionaires fund the life expectancy studies, so they say what justifies their own rule. If you don’t want to change anything about the world, then shut up and get out of the way. But do yourself. a favor, and don’t be such a sucker
- Comment on A handful of people are slowly killing over 8 billion people, but we're expected to sit idly by and let it happen 4 weeks ago:
start building gallows
Just no. Join an org, get involved, learn to organize. During the French revolution the guillotine didn’t overthrow the aristocracy, they were mostly used on other peasants. What actually worked, was taking their shit.
You are right to want justice, but building gallows is what they will do, its their twisted justice. “When education isn’t liberating it is the dream of the oppressed to become the oppressor.” We have the ability together, although difficult, to create a more just world. Destroying the material basis for their class, the ownership of the means of production, is the only thing that will can make this possible.
Join an org, salt a union, get involved. Its messaging like this that makes the left completely unpalatable. Wanting justice is good, but we can only have it if we come together as a class to defeat the rich as a class.
Time to take it to the next stage. “Building gallows” won’t do shit, might as well eat pudding about it. There is only one thing that has ever worked against them, and that is organization and withholding our labor power. In 1935, after the national strike wave that brought the US to its knees, we got our new deal. Next time, there will be no deal. We are taking the power and we will never give it back. And we will use it to build a better world.
- Comment on got banned on reddit for 3 days..... so hi... 4 weeks ago:
If podcast started, insane, return to step 1
But don’t kys the best people out here are crazy AF. You gotta be imbalanced to keep imagination, hope, feistiness, the will to do something drastically different then the awful path laid out before us.
Mess around with gender instead. Be hot, and gay. Its these normies that I really worry about
- Comment on *sniff* *mumbles* 5 weeks ago:
If you’re on the right you think he’s a Marxist commie, and don’t like commies.
If you’re a commie you don’t think he’s a commie, you think he’s full of shit and uses left wing intellectual language to hide that he’s an apologist for liberal social democracy.
If you’re an anarchist probably think he’s an avatar for a certain kind of former Soviet bloc intellectualist elitism, and he actively discourages direct action (I’ve never spoken to an anarchist about him, I might have to ask one.)
Gender critics and feminists don’t like him because he’s more than a little chauvinistic, and a vocal critic of Judith Butler.
If you’re apolitical you think he’s annoying and incomprehensible.
I think he appeals to a certain sort of budding or wannabe left intellectual. Someone who doesn’t completely understand his work as a decades-long project, probably because they are still discovering it, and the political consequences of that project. Like he says things that are interesting and sort of novel because he’s a Hegelian and Hegelian analysis can be full of all kinds of cool insights. When you assemble his arguments together as a body of work though it has a much different character than some of his more interesting points taken in isolation, which takes on a different character when put together so that one can see the arc of his work. But as a moderate Hegelian he neither fits with the right Fukuyamist Hegelians or the left Marxist Hegelians, and he is critical of both groups.
I think he understands intellectualism as a social force, and likes to bother different stripes of intellectuals. He’s controversial enough to stay relevant, and good at working the media. I think he is very intentional with all this stuff.
But he broke Jordan Peterson when they debated, and got him out of the spotlight for like a year or two and that was pretty funny
- Comment on Black Holes 5 weeks ago:
Reality is not made of math, this is why scientists need to take philosophy of science classes. I’m a big fan of math, very cool and useful. And math allows us to make a map of reality and events, an abstraction albeit an incredibly powerful and practical one.
But a map of terrain isn’t the terrain itself no matter how detailed and accurate it is. Views like this are what creates bad ideas like we live in a computer simulation, that terrifies and confuses people. Without people there is no math, period. Dont make science into a religion.