Iâm trying to wrap my head around that statement but I canât come with any explanation why that should be the case.
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realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
homes@piefed.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Because itâs absurd nonsense
Poxlox@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Candice Owens has suggested that various powers that be played a role in Kirkâs assassination, particularly for speaking out against Israel.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Candace thinks Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
Frankly, I donât actually think thatâs totally impossible, though its far from proven.
However, if you know anything about guns or ballistics⊠the scenario that has thus far been presented by the FBI as to the kind of weapon that shot Kirk and the angle and distance he was shot fromâŠ
Its completely impossible, and does not align with the evidence on the scene.
If Kirk had been shot from basically the front, by a 30.06, in the neck, it would have blown half of his neck off, there would have been a massive back blast of viscera behind him.
What the actual wounds from the autopsy point toward is that roughly a 5.56 round from Kirkâs above and right, entered his neck on the right side, traversed around and through various parts of his neck, untill it ended up severing the corotid artery on his right side and lodging itself into his left collar bone.
That bullet trajectory actually matches the specific injuries from the autopsy, and the video evidence.
A 30.06 from roughly 150 yards away⊠would have zero chance of embedding itself into a collar bone.
It would detonate it, shatter it, blow it apart.
A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a moose⊠thereâs an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.
You can run all the math on the physics of this yourself if you doubt it. Iâve already done it, search through my comment history if you want to see it.
brian@lemmy.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
while I sorta doubt you did the âmath on the physicsâ, my bigger worry is referring to .30-06 as 30.06, as one of those doesnât exist, as far as Iâm aware.
but stating, factually, that there is âzero chanceâ of the bullet embedding in the collarbone, is pretty irresponsible. there are a multitude of other things that need to be accounted for in ballistics analysis, which even then can be misinterpreted.
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
A 30.06 from roughly 150 yards away, from the front⊠would have zero chance of embedding itself into a collar bone.
It would detonate it, shatter it, blow it apart.
A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a moose⊠thereâs an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.
So, knowing nothing about 5.56 rounds but having shot a .30-06 at moose/deer/elk: in the 100-200 yard range the bullet will break a rib, travel through the lungs/heart/etc and then often exit the other side on a smaller animal (deer), or be sitting just inside the hide of a larger one (elk/moose).
I have no opinions on the rest of it thatâs just been my experience.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I mean, we can distrust both. Iâm not clear on what you think happened. Do you not think the person arrested for this is the killer? In any case what is the motivation for lying about the weapon usedâŠ?
Cargon@lemmy.ml âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I mean, if right wingers wanted Charlie Kirk dead, who am I to complain?
JoeMontayna@lemmy.ml âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Whatever happened to the theory that it hit his body armor first and deflected up into his neck? I havenât looked into this in awhile, but recall seeing a video that looked like that is what happened. That would explain the loss in velocity.
hector@lemmy.today âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
The official story is bullshit. Not only on the ballistics but especially that. The rifle was supposedly broken down and put into that tiny pack in 1 minute flat, then reassembled in a nearby chicken coop, that a bomb/gun sniffing dog scanned without signalling anything, and an FBI finds it first minute on the scene.
Itâs not possible, these working dogs are incredible, they didnât miss a fired gun.
Syndication@lemmy.today âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Mental illness can cause you to have irrational thoughts.
dumbass@piefed.social âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Sly way of saying that Israel killed Kirk, who knows with Israel, could be true.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Israelâs big reveal is going to be that they did in fact send an agent to the western hemisphere hundreds of years ago just to bury some golden tablets in upstate New York and will be activating the entirety of Deseret with the phrase âHie to Kolobâ.
butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Knowing how conspiratorial and antisemitic (as opposed to rightfully antizionist) she is, Iâm going to assume sheâs implying that THE (((JEWS)))âąïž assassinated Kirk and then went to war with Iran with us as their meat puppet ally.
bizarroland@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I feel like itâs the kind of shit that a bunch of drunken college kids would do as a prank.
Like theyâre all standing around laughing at the people that are actually believing this shit and laughing even more at the people that get upset.
Marthirial@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Thatâs because you donât have a MAGA in your brain.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Yeah, normally I can at least understand what theyâre trying to say, but here I just⊠I donât know anymore đ
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
A MAGA killed Charlie Kirk so MAGA had NO CHOICE but to Bomb and Iranian School in Response!
Grimy@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
This was pushed hard when it happened but Iâve never seen anything actually pointing to him being MAGA. He was raised in a right wing household but also dated someone trans and killed a right wing spokesman.
His social media got nuked right away so not much on that side. It was probably a mixed bag which is maybe more dangerous to have in the news in terms of inciting copycats. Easier if both sides blame it on the other, wouldnât want anyone to see himself in him.
That being said, I donât think his a allegiance matters as much as the fact that Charlie deserved it.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
He was part of a group that thought maga was too soft. Any left in there was a buffer overrun.
MehBlah@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
He killed charlie kirk because charlie didnât hate in the right way. So if you think the trash that killed the trash is a good guy then you are not a good guy.
hector@lemmy.today âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
While I donât disagree, the story is bullshit. Somethings are off, obviously so. Cadence is actually mostly right on this.
D_C@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Every single one of those little girls were in contact with The Human Fountainâs shooter every single day. Every. Single. Day.
And they were all pleading with him to do that shooting. 6 year old Iranian schoolgirls are a formidable force that should not be trifled with!Or Candeath Omens is a cunt. It could be eitherâŠ
daannii@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I actually thought (I know, Iâm stupid) that Candace genuinely cared about Kirk and was genuinely upset she lost her friend.
But now I see sheâs just milking his âlegacyâ for self promotion and grifting attention, just like the Erika.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
She thinks Israel killed him.
hector@lemmy.today âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Israel did kill him. Israelâs factions in the US, lines are blurry. They wanted to turn TP into a censor of schools, hitler youth, which it is now pursuing, Kirk had his own vision, and rejected their two board picks.
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Of course she is. That world is entirely populated by grifters.
cheers_queers@lemmy.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
from the way she talked about him on joe rogan, you would think she was a teenager having her first crush lol
daannii@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Yeah honestly. It sounded like they probably got drunk and made out a few times.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Who the fuck is Charlie Kirk?
Restaldt@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Someone who died for what they believed in
That potentially getting shot in the neck is a small price to pay for everyone to have guns
toad@sh.itjust.works âš5â© âšdaysâ© ago
I hope you get cancer
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
God bless us every one
echodot@feddit.uk âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I suspect that what he actually believed was that other people dying (preferably kids who donât vote) so he can have a gun itâs a small price to pay.
What the right all have in common is an absolute inability to emphasise with anybody else, until it happens to them.
NickwithaC@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
No one.
colforge@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Was*
zenitsu@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
A professional propagandist clown for christian nationalism
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Okay, what the hell is âchristianâ? Are yall fucking with me?
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Attention seeker. Loudmouth. Bigot. Gum model.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Mr. Potato head is a bigot???
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
She was captain of the enterprise after Christopher Pine
REDACTED@infosec.pub âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Popular 4channer
RagingRobot@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Who the hell is John f. Kennedy?!?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
OH MY GOD SOMEBODY SHOOT IT IN THE NECK
hector@lemmy.today âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Some dead asshole. Israel killed him to turn his TP org into a censor of schools and hitler youth, long story.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Wow i knew the ameican public school system was shit but i had no idea they had a whole toilet paper org
tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
WE ARE đŠ
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Fedizen@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
The theory is Israel killed charlie kirk because he was pushing back against israel
bstix@feddit.dk âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Charlie Kirk didnât kill himself.
But almost.
Agent641@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
First casualty including or not including gang violence?
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Can anyone explain because my brainât
Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
âAnd its still the utmost tragedy that he was so mercilessly slaughtered.â
âAnd the US soldiers and civilians in Iran that have been killed since the illegal war actually started?â
âEhh, these things happen.â
NotSteve_@piefed.ca âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Capitalising the word âwarâ as if it was a deity makes sense for an American politician
jali67@lemmy.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
The worst part of it is people genuinely eat this shit up
criss_cross@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
They couldnât blame the liberals so now they need crackpot theories.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Forgotten. Fuck off
JoMiran@lemmy.ml âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
đ¶Baby Iâm wastedđ¶
đ¶All I wanna do is drive home to youđ¶
đ¶Baby Iâm fadedđ¶
đ¶All I wanna do is take you downtownđ¶robocall@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I thought Charlie Kirk was Hamas
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Star Wars nerds âcharlie kirk charlie kirkâ piss off with your jawa shit
RAFAELRAMIREZ@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Thatâs exactly the moment when you realize the edibles were definitely working after all.
rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
did she just memoryholed all of the summer 2025 airstrikes
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Was Charlie Kirkâs assassin Iranian?
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Fun fact: Candace Owens is otherkin.
This is what happens when we donât support otherkin. They look elsewhere for support, and find it with dangerous people.
MehBlah@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
By they she means themselves.
Armand1@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Sometimes the conspiracy theorists pop out of their echo chamber and make a statement that seems reasonable and widely accepted to them but can only be believed if you first believe 17 layers of propaganda, leaps of logic and generally brainrot. Usually all fed to them by bigots and billionaires.
Then are then surprised by normal people clowning on them and instead of reflecting, they just tell themselves they know something the normies donât and that makes them special.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Itâs worse than an echo chamber that they have. Itâs isolated improv. They arenât just agreeing, theyâre "yes and"ing. Collective world building without critical thought, disagreement, or awareness that it isnât how reality works.
Wilco@lemmy.zip âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
They are âroleplayingâ with each other. Telling lies and conspiracy stories that they know are fiction, but MAGA is actually tolerant of other MAGA and as long as you are telling fiction about something that is close to MAGA they will pretend to believe it.
Except about 10% actually take that batshit crazy stuff serious.
snooggums@piefed.world âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
They also say things that donât make any sense if someone understands how a calendar works.
Man_kind@sh.itjust.works âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I personally dont think this is far fetched. There seems to have been a cover up about his death. The alleged shooter was maga. Kirk was going against Israel, and could have been a significant problem and priority target for israel, but for anyone else, he was just a racist POS, and very low significance, if someone wished to assassinate with goals of slowing maga down.
However, he was probably quite relevant for young people, so I could see it going either way, but I dont find the theory Israel was responsible is too much of a stretch, and it appears powerful people didnt want the public to learn too much about it.
hector@lemmy.today âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
The official story is bullshit. He was NOT hit with a 30.06, that rifle would have blown a fist sized hole out the back of his neck. The shooter didnât dissassmble the rifle in 1 minute flat into that little bag. Then they donât find the rifle with dogs the sheriffs bring around, but the FBI finds it fully assembled right under the dogâs noses?
That is wrong on at least three scores. They are lying to us, obviously, lending credence to the Israel angle.
echodot@feddit.uk âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Thatâs why they all think that everyoneâs secretly a Nazi only they are too afraid to admit it, which is why they are constantly surprised by all of the public backlash whenever they do their nazi things.
Of course thatâs daft, the real Nazis have never been afraid to tell everyone who they are. Even when no one was asking.
hector@lemmy.today âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Wrong, Israelâs faction did indeed kill Kirk.