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- Comment on I am abandoning Arc Raiders because Embark is stealing voices through AI 4 hours ago:
if anybody could access a technology that helps them by magically destroying lives in another country far away, would you say the same thing?
Might be cruel to say it, but that’s called “progress”. The world needs to continue to evolve - latching to old jobs seems silly. We got rid off of blacksmiths because we don’t have the need anymore. Europe once had a huge horse stable industry spanning the entirety of central and western europe. We don’t have that anymore either, because we now have cars. We also don’t have any telegraph operators or switchboard operators (necessary for long distance communication back then), elevator operators or laundry washwomen - these jobs have all been made obsolete by technical advancements.
“It would be silly to ignore it as it makes things easier for me” seems quite short-sighted to me.
I think quite the opposite - it’s the long-sighted better option. Progress is never good for those negatively affected in the short term, but we can’t keep jobs around that aren’t really necessary anymore just for the sake of those people having a job.
And in this particular case, there’s not even any loss involved. They used their voice to train an AI, it was explicity part of the contract and they got paid for it. I honestly do not see the problem.
- Comment on I am abandoning Arc Raiders because Embark is stealing voices through AI 7 hours ago:
Don’t tell me they HAD to use genAI instead of paying those voice actors for reshoot to begin with.
The didn’t have to, but it certainly makes it easier. And I find it silly to not use a technology that makes something easier if you have it available. That’s like a farmer plowing his field by hand instead of using a tractor.
But the base of this model is to be capable of understanding how any voice works in order to copy how a specific voice work.
First of all, we had Text-To-Speech way before any kind of generative AI. In germany, we had speech synthesized announcements on railway stations for like 15 years at least. Like this here: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AuIkJ_UGltI. We also had vocaloids for decades now. So it’s wrong to assume we had no idea how voices work before AI.
Second, I get your stance on “I’m not using AI because somewhere up the chain it was developed by morally ambiguous ways”, but I don’t think that makes anything better. You should rate the current use-case, not something that happened earlier in the production chain. AI in itself is not bad. If used properly, it’s an incredibly helpful tool. There’s other and much better hills to die on imo.
- Comment on I am abandoning Arc Raiders because Embark is stealing voices through AI 10 hours ago:
Watkins, speaking to PCGamesN, elaborated that the text-to-speech always starts with a voice actor: “It’s part of their contract that we use it [AI] for this purpose, and that allows us to do things like our ping system, where it’s capable of saying every single item name, every single location name, and compass directions. That’s how we can get that without needing to have someone come in every time we create a new item for the game.”
So no, they are not “stealing” voices. Their contracts explicity states that they are training the model. So they are getting paid, which in conclusion rules out “stealing”.
Also, from your video:
But to my understanding
Rarely ever good if a sentence starts with “To my understanding”
the AI tools Embark uses to then synthesize the rest of the performance come from models that are trained on millions of other voice actors that have been stolen from in the way that all generative AI models steal from artists.
No, that’s the whole point of models that are trained on a single voice - you do NOT use other voice actors because that would completely muddy the voice. The models are trained on a singular voice to mimic that person perfectly. Using other voices is like asking someone to cook a potato soup for you and then you toss in tomato and paprika.
- Comment on Ms Rachel forced to hire security over Zionist threats 1 day ago:
Hitler was at least sorta right
Reading this kind of batshit takes outside of /pol/ is insane lmao.
- Comment on Oh yes daddy credit please 1 day ago:
Not paying a financial institution might be the worst advice you could give. That’s like not paying the mafia.
- Comment on Actual theft 3 days ago:
“In the twilight of bourgeois decadence, even the most trivial ornaments of culture shall be seized by the ruling class, for in late capitalism the elites will weaponize every spectacle - yes, even the egirls - to distract the proletariat from its chains.”
- Karl Marx
- Comment on idk abbout this one discord 4 days ago:
One of the few use cases where I see AI being great.