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there is a special place in hell for these scientists

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  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Raises uncomfortable questions about consciousness. The only difference between these neurons and your own are the number of them and the structures they form. Of course it doesn’t know what it’s doing, but… Neither do our own neurons

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    • ziproot@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Do those neurons interact with hormones like mine do?

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    … Am I missing something, or is this not like, the practical, if not lore accuratr first step toward actually creating a:

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    • DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works ⁨30⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Next step, give it spider legs and a gattling gun!

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  • ThePantser@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Taking “will it run doom” one step too far.

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    • tpihkal@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We need to take it back a step and see if it’ll run Linux.

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      • new_guy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Asking someone to compile the kernel with their mind sure is one way to give someone a headache

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      • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I can imagine a new AI hellscape where LLMs are run on human brain cells in a test tube. So you’re never quite sure if you’re talking to a mere algorithm … or an enslaved proto-human who might be conscious and whose entire existence revolves around answering your inane online queries.

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    • Kowowow@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A closer example would be if it could use the console in linux since it’s only playing dom not running it, I wonder if wetware would be any better as a coding assistant than ai

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      • duncan_bayne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        playing dom

        I do not want to train a bioengineered intelligence with guns to do that.

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      • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Is anyone else really skeeved out by the term “wetware”, or is that just me

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Can they run console commands?

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    • Zink@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah now it’s “will it speedrun DOOM?”

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  • cmbabul@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    So we’re just going full head of steam into a combo of the torment nexus and AM

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  • gigastasio@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s having more fun than I am.

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Maybe the real hell is the life we’ve lived along the way.

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      • glibg10b@lemmy.zip ⁨25⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        This is the bad place!

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      • MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Maybe this experience is just a higher being’s analog of Doom and we’re just cells in a petri dish running an MMORPG version it. Stupidest simulation theory ever, but hey man, we’re sorta doing it so how stupid can it be?

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  • Fredselfish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Funny just finished listening to John Romero audiobook DoomGuy wonder what he think of this?

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  • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    It would not know what hell is, just that humanoids are enemies.

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    • Twelve20two@slrpnk.net ⁨36⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      And tomatos

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  • HailHydra@infosec.pub ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m not sure if it’s the same scientists, but the YouTube channel The Thought Emporium has an ongoing series about growing neurons to play retro games (such as OG DOOM).

    The playlist of this series is fittingly called “Building the Torment Nexus” youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZLsjPxmF1BE1BAAeJgF2A….

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    • chaogomu@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It looks like their setup, but I don’t see any recent videos. Jan 15th was their last one. I think they have a patreon with bonus clips and advance stuff.

      Might be from that.

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      • general_kitten@sopuli.xyz ⁨52⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        perhaps they did the experiment and are now working on a video about it

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  • Ghostie@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So they are growing doom guy.

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    • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Baby steps towards growing a Wolfenstein guy, we’ll get there. Maybe around the time they put Trump in a life support mech.

      It’ll be good telly, I bet.

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  • desiccated_event@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is this how the Borg began? Suddenly makes more sense with the outfits.

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  • saxrussell@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Heckin gamer.

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  • red_sock@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Computer Scientists: We can make Doom run on any device! Bioscientists: Watch this!

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    • Mac@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Cosmologists: *cracks knuckles* Check this shit out.

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  • Gates9@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s fucked up though. What happened to bioethics and review boards?

    We don’t understand enough about human consciousness to say that those cells aren’t sentient. We have no idea what sort of experience, if any, they’re perceiving.

    This is not okay…

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    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m no scientist but I’m pretty sure we know enough to say there’s no consciousness at this level. Consciousness as we know it is pretty fragile.

      There may be a point if this is scaled up that could be a concern…

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    • DokPsy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’d say they’re experiencing being doom guy but that’s just a guess

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  • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We are old gods who punish life for fun.

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  • ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Maybe this will lead to San junipero for real

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  • crazycraw@crazypeople.online ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “hey you, glad you’re awake…”

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    • desiccated_event@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      DO NOT give Todd any more ideas….please.

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  • MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Next step, Skyrim

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    • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Good call. I haven’t seen anyone play doom in skyrim yet.

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      • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        “I used to be an adventurer like you. Then I took a BFG 9000 to the knee.”

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  • Lawyerator@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If I imagine I am playing Doom accurately enough, does it count?

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How Republican brains are made…

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nah, you take a normal brain and give it CTE or make it have a stroke.

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  • Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It used bullet spray to spell out “kill me”. But the scientists missed it because there wasn’t enough video memory to keep the writing on the wall.

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  • dingus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Does anyone have a link to the original scientific paper?

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    • TechLich@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t think they’ve actually published this one? They have a bunch of related publications and they released the code on GitHub though.

      Code here: https://github.com/SeanCole02/doom-neuron

      Science here: https://corticallabs.com/research

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