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Idk man fusion kitchens are the best and maybe the only good thing to come out of colonialism. Indonesian-Dutch food slaps. Vietnamiese-French cuisine kicks my ass. Must I bring up Italian coffee or Swiss chocolate? Turkish-German Döner is so popular it is sold basically everywhere now.
All three foods in the meme are delicious
Fusion kitchens are the best and maybe the only good thing to come out of colonialism
Well, there’s also a pretty good music that jazz doesn’t happen the way it did without putting European instruments in the hands of formerly enslaved Africans. Would be a lot cooler world if we could figure out how to evolve our art and culture without crimes against humanity, tho.
Well, colonialism did bring tomatoes and potatoes to Europe.
said cultural exchange happens without colonialism. look at sweet potatoes.
that’s like saying well, without rape, there wouldn’t be rape babies, and implying that we should thank rapist for their lives.
And every brit is legally required to bring up chicken tikka masala when talking about fusion food.
I want to protest the Döner one. Other countries sell something they call Döner, but the similarity is superficial at best to a real one. It’s a fun little thing I do on vacation in other European countries: try to find a “Döner” and see what travesty they give me
I miss German döner so much. It’s just not right elsewhere, and I can’t understand why.
Yeah I feel you. The Belgian dürüm variety is actually quite good, if very different. Fries in there and a crazy sauce selection absolutely slaps.
Babi pangang up in this motherfucker
You telling me a Foe Yong’d this Hai?
My wife is Australian, but we live in Germany now. Last year, she was craving “Honey Chicken” which is ubiquitous at chinese takeaway places in Australia. None of the chinese places in Germany knew what I was talking about. Turns out Honey Chicken is a purely Australian invention.
Sounds good! Is it close to orange chicken or General Tso’s chicken in the USA?
We have honey chicken commonly in the US too. It is essentially orange chicken without the orange flavor/color.
Sounds delicious though.
America has, by a long shot, the most diverse and some of the best food on the plant. Go to one of the big three and you can have 3 star Michellin from every continent or some of the best street meat shit you’ll have on the same day.
America certainly has the most diverse kitchen because it’s a whole fucking continent. It has grasslands, mountains, coasts, lakes, everything and each microclimate you could imagine. I doubt, OTOH, that you’ve ever seen a Michelin rated restaurant from the inside.
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meanwhile everyone in the world, who traveled to the US, will tell you that even the produce has no flavor.
US food is objectively terrible compared to other nations.
USA is big. Like, really, really big.
The food you get in New York City and Waco, Texas don’t have a lot in common.
👌👍 /r/IamveryCulinary
Umm… it’s not mexican, chinese or italian but also american food doesn’t exist?
I can’t tell if this was the joke or the meme just wants to shit on americans for stealing and mangling everyone’s food…
Also, jalapeño poppers.
I think the joke is that Americans like to adopt foods or cooking techniques from other cultures, then change them to fit local tastes. This is how a lot of “traditional American” foods came to be. There is also a stereotype that American cultural practices (gastronomy included) is “not real” or doesn’t exist because it comes as a fusion of cultural practices innotjer countries. The meme is poking fun at people who may hold this belief.
People also have a habit of describing the American versions of things to be “not real”, even if it never really claims to be. For example, fettuccine Alfredo in the US is an adaptation of fettuccini al burro (a real Italian dish), but is described as “not real Italian food” because it isn’t actually eaten in Italy. Or that orange chicken is “not real Chinese food” because it isn’t eaten in China. Which, to be fair, is true, but most American diners are aware that Panda Express, Olive Garden, and Taco Bell aren’t accurate representations of food eaten in China, Italy, or Mexico. They’re Americanised versions of food inspired by Chinese, Italian, and Mexican cuisine.
Notably, Americans are not the only culture that does this.
There’s a Thai dish called ‘American Fried Rice’ for instance.
American fried rice is a Thai fried rice dish with “American” side ingredients like fried chicken, ham, sausages, raisins, and ketchup.[1] Other ingredients like pineapples and croutons are optional.
At least in any part of America I’ve been to, this is certainly not something you can get here.
If Olive Garden isn’t real, then why are their breadsticks pure joy? :)
Americans like to adopt foods or cooking techniques from other cultures
It’s not “americans” (as in people whose families have lived there for a few generations), it’s immigrants who brought their culture and then adapted it to the locals. You can find this in almost every country.
All these dishes are Americanized versions of dishes that came from the other countries.
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Great classic mystery novel, “Too Many Cooks” by Rex Stout. Nero Wolfe is a 300 pound private detective who hates leaving his Manhattan brownstone. He investigates from his armchair, sending his assistant Archie Goodwin to round up clues and bring him folks to interrogate.
Wolfe is a famous gourmand and is invited to give a speech on American food to a group of European chefs.
Interesting novel on many levels.
That wasn’t the Too Many Cooks I was aware of.
Since the novel was written circa 1935 the estate could sue the producers.
I feel like if you know what typical American breakfast foods are, “breakfast taco” is pretty self-explanatory.
How do you get the energy drink and nutrition supplements to stay in the taco
Also, the Taco Bell Breakfast Crunchwrap, steak, with extra creamy jalapeño sauce, is perhaps the greatest fast food breakfast item of all time.
First they say ‘that is not our food’.
Then the say ‘all you do is eat our food’.
Make up your minds.
if I plagirise a novel and change things so it is terrible, I still both copied your novel AND said novel isn’t a representation of your work.
But if I take you novel as inspiration and created a new novel then I’m not eating your novel
“Exit To Eden” has entered the chat.
The novel, “Exit To Eden” by Anne Rice [aka Ann Rampling] was a pornographic romance that was turned into a very bad movie that added a lot of nonsense for no reason.
Tbf the kind of cultural fusion cuisine you get when another culture successfully imports another culture’s cuisine, is super interesting to me. I’d say this stands separately from intentional fusion restaurants, this is more something that happens organically as a cuisine is adapted to the ingredients and tastes somewhere away from where it is invented.
The classic examples are Tex-mex and British curries, but every country has a few things like this. Japanese Italian is a pretty cool experience, not least of all because now I think about it there’s some places that are straight up Japanese/Italian cultural fusion, but others are more Japanese/Italian-American, so this thing can go deeper.
Always been a fan of trying local cuisine when I’ve travelled, but I’ve more recently been trying to add places like the above into the mix, as it’s genuinely always been interesting to me
Why are all nationalities chads except the Italian is a soyjak?
For obvious reasons
I think it should be pretty obvious.
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
Every culture takes/mixes foods from other cultures and makes it their own. I think the difference with the US is that there isn’t an ancient history to form a basis.
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Perhaps more importantly, every generation remixes their parents’ and grandparents’ food.
French, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and Mexican food aren’t the same as they were 50 years ago. Lots of new dishes were invented and remixed, sometimes from imported influence. It’s not like chefs sit around and refuse to do anything different from how they learned. They do invent and innovate and tweak recipes. That’s, like, the job.
altphoto@lemmy.today 2 hours ago
Ketchup as close as we know it comes from the Philippines right? So there goes that whole thing.
plm00@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
And the word “ketchup” is Chinese.
frog@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
Yes. I view Chinese American food as American food. Sweet General Tso’s Chicken, orange chicken, fortune cookies, crab rangoons, etc. Basically anything they overly sweetened.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 4 hours ago
Most of what constitutes “traditional” American cuisine is broadly based on European traditions, with British, French, Italian, and German influences being the most dominant. Though many of the recipes have changed and evolved over time, you can still see the influences pretty clearly.
Take the classic Thanksgiving dinner, for instance: although many of the ingredients (such as sweet potatoes and turkey) were unknown in Europe, the way they are prepared is still very similar to how Europeans prepare traditional holiday roasts.
Also, a “proper” meal generally consists of a chunk of meat, veggies, and carbs, usually all prepared separately, or sometimes as a casserole or a stew. Stir-frying is not that common, for instance, but frying, roasting and baking is. If you look into the history of any particular American dish, its roots can often be traced back to the exact wave of immigration that went on to popularize it.
Depending on the region, however, you may also find Native American influences, such as Creole, Cajun, Tex-Mex, etc.
Goatboy@lemmy.today 4 hours ago
I’m glad someone brought up Native American influence. It’s more widespread in American food than people realize.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
Which I see as a positive