If the color of the Sun was orange, wouldn't the clouds and everything white also be orange? My friend is adamant that 30 years ago the "real" Sun was orange but got replaced with a white LED.

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I asked him “what color were the clouds back then?” and he said they were white.

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Bazell@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
Shadow government repainted it. /s

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echolalia@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’m going to take a different stance to a lot of the posters here.

Your friend may be showing signs of undiagnosed mental illness.

If you value him, listen to him and confront him when he has broken away from reality. But don’t argue with him. Be firm in your disagreements but don’t argue.

Be supportive of him if you can. Make sure he has a support network (parents siblings others)

Sometimes mental illness does not manifest until early adulthood.

Know your limits. Care for yourself.

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ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Replaced?! 😂

Your friend is beyond repair. Cut your losses.

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ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yes. If the sun was orange, the light would be orange, and everything white would be orange.

The fact that your friend believes the sun was replaced by a giant LED is a sign they should not be your friend anymore

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- tyrant@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Your friend is either trolling you or a complete idiot.
  
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  - ttyybb@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I’d assume trolling
    
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  - bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    No. I know people like this irl.
    
    Not the exact belief, but insane nonetheless. Usually they get all their news from fb and xitter. And theyre always smarter than scientists despite not finishing hs or college (not that one needs to do those things to be smart, but just saying as a rule…)
    
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- TomMasz@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It’s likely this isn’t the only conspiracy theory he believes in. Time for you to find better friends,.
  
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- gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  They didn’t replace the sun that would be impossible
  
  They replaced the sky which obviously uses LED imagine trying to run a panel of halogens that big
  
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  - unknown@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    imagine trying to run a panel of halogens that big
    
    Is that what caused global warming? /s
    
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  - ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    🤣🤣🤣🤣
    
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finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
That’s … uh … that’s one hell of a LED. Who installed it? From where was this colossal diode purchased? Just, y’know, given the sun has 99.99% of the mass in the solar system, it would’ve taken quite the team. Ask him if it was illegal immigrants, ‘terking the jerb’ of galactic stupidity away from him and his peer group!

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phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

sun… LED…

Yeah your friend is an absolute idiot and should ask for his money back from his elementary school

The sun has been around for billions of years and pretty much hasn’t changed color since. Thinking you can “replace” the sun’s “LED” makes me wonder if he is experiencing mental illness, honestly

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cv_octavio@piefed.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
White LEDs are categorically not 30 year old tech, even if the rest of this theory wasn’t gunpowder caliber guano.

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- Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It was in 1993.
  
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- plenipotentprotogod@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  “Gunpowder caliber guano” is an absolutely amazing way to call something batshit insane and I will be taking every available opportunity to use it in conversation from now on.
  
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- SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  That’s why it used to be not orange, obviously.
  
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gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
A simple google will tell anyone the following

The Sun is white. It appears yellow from Earth because of scattering from the atmosphere. Its peak visible light is in the green part of the spectrum.

He could be a liar, I dunno, but he is definitely a doodoo head

sciencenotes.org/what-color-is-the-sun-hint-not-y…

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- dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  We perceive the sun as white. That’s a fairly important distinction.
  
  The reason we perceive the sun as white is surely because the sun has output basically the same spectrum as long as humanity (and a great deal of humanity’s precursors) has existed. We evolved with our eyes considering the spectrum the sun kicks out as fully white light, comprised of the sum total of electromagnetic frequencies we’re able to receive with our eyeballs.
  
  There is no such thing as objective color of any light. Our understanding of color is completely based on our perception of it. If the sun’s peak output were in the 590–625nm range (what we currently perceive as orange) for all that time rather than in the green part of the spectrum it is in reality (500–565nm), we undoubtedly would have evolved to see that particular spectrum combination as white light instead.
  
  All of the above notwithstanding, if the spectrum output of the sun changed overnight like OP’s idiot friend is suggesting, it would be immediately apparent to everyone who isn’t literally blind.
  
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  - Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    the sun has output basically the same spectrum as long as humanity
    
    Last time I checked, human output was brown.
    
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  - Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Ok. Devils advocate here. If it did change, and did it gradually, would we notice? And if it changed suddenly wouldn’t we adjust and soon see things as we always have?
    
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- UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Where is the ambient horizon lighting coming from in the right-side of the picture?
  
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  - gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I’m pretty sure it’s cgi upon inspection lol
    
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MantisToboggon@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
You should get them a car on monoxide detector.

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- MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Underrated comment.
  
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Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The friend is right.

The sun has been an orange forever, while the moon is a lemon.

/s

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IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

because I’m younger than him and vaccinated.

Bruh your friend is a conspiracy theorist. There’s no arguing with him because he already thinks Bill Gates created the Corona virus to exterminate humans so the underground lizard men can retake the surface (actual quote from a conspiracy theorist I used to know, and claimed the same kinda batshit bullshit your friend is saying).

Honestly? Your best bet is to just not engage with them when topics like that come up. Incredibly difficult (sometimes impossible) to get them to realize the fairy tales they’ve convinced themselves are real.

If it gets too much to handle, probably best to cut ties.

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- bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  These people will believe batshit insane stuff like this but refuse to believe billionaires are running the world and destroying life for all of us. The disconnect is concerning.
  
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  - IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    See that’s another thing. He fully believes the illuminati are real. But he doesn’t think it’s the people that are obviously close to that truth in reality (Trump, Musk, Putin, Epstein, etc).
    
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- fullsquare@awful.systems ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  Your best bet is to just not engage with them when topics like that come up
  
  real soon it will include any topic
  
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Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I was alove 30 years ago and the sun was exactly the same then as it is now.

Your friend is an idiot.

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P00ptart@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Time for a new friend.

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bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Do not let your friend near any literature written by L Ron Hubbard.

Off his rocker.

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spittingimage@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

I’m stupid because I’m younger than him and vaccinated.

Your friend is not for taking seriously.

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Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Ask him why it is orange?

We know why most flames are orange, we know why steel glows red, and for the same reason (and many others) we know that the sun is white, so what his is reasoning for it’s orange color claims?

Also ask him why sunsets and sun rises are more orange, and if he doesn’t know asj him what the color of the sky is and what color would you get if you combined all colors (white) and then removed the blue (you get yellow)

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RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Your friend is a moron.

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NABDad@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
You need to upgrade to a better friend.

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actionjbone@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Everyone knows the sun was not replaced with a giant LED.

LEDs with no heat. It was replaced with a giant halogen bulb.

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- kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  LEDs produce about half their input energy in heat, with the other half being light. Incandescent bulbs output about 90% as heat and 10% as light.
  
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  - Thorry@feddit.org ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    This can very a lot depending on the LED. The average LED is indeed somewhere around the 50% and 60% mark. But there are LEDs out there that can get up to 90+%
    
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Red_October@piefed.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Your friend is an idiot and if these are his sincerely held beliefs you should just assume everything he ever says is probably wrong.

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Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
He is clearly stupid if he believes that. Impressively so.

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fullsquare@awful.systems ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
if sun was orange, it wouldn’t be orange, it would be just precieved as regular white light, and new-orange would be even more oranger than what we know today

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morphballganon@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Is your friend RFK?

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AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Other comments are correctly stating that the sun is white, but appears yellow/orange due to the blue light being scattered—but that doesn’t fully address the issue, because objects seen under a white light with an orange filter in front would still have an orange cast.

The difference with the sun is that the scattered blue light is still reaching objects via the light from the rest of the sky—it’s the orange light from the sun combining with the blue light from the sky that makes things appear white.

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FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
LED? He should be more worried about LEAD. He’s clearly consumed more than one should.

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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

My friend is adamant that 30 years ago the “real” Sun was orange but got replaced with a white LED.

I would be curious to know where he thinks the LED is plugged in. Also, why this particular LED is so fucking hot.

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AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
30 years ago?

So right about the time The Truman Show came out?

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XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The sun is yellow. Being orange wouldn’t drastically change the color of everything we see. Pure sunlight is like 4300K in color temeprature, pure white is about 5000K, but clear sky daylight, the actual summation of light, is more like 6500K. This is because rayleigh scattering in the atmosphere shines blue light towards us across the whole sky. You’re seeing bright blue sky, the bright blue sky is shining on your daily life. This is why cloudy days are gray. The clouds are blocking enough of the blue to create a more neutral pure white.

The sun is tinted as hell in smog, though. I got a taste of classic Los Angeles in recent Indian winter.

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- birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  No, the sun’s real colour image is white, but due to our nitrogen-oxygen and ozone layer atmosphere filtering certain light, it comes out blue, iirc.
  
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  - XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    The sun is a G-class star. It’s yellow or yellow-white by classification. The order from blue to red is OBAFGKM, with white being an A leaning towards an F. The perceived earthbound color of Sol skews further yellow because of the aforentioned blue-scattering.
    
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douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
You can’t fix stupid, it will only drag you down with it.

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DavidGA@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into.

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