Imagine having this much hostility towards the future.
It’s like the last of the boomers in in some silo somewhere waiting to nuke the Earth on their way out the door and the rest of them know it.
Really, ….. it's my fault they built a terrible system?
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AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I actually know a Lot of boomers who feel just that way. My dad is one he thinks its their right to destroy the environment because they can’t live forever.
Then you have the christian nuts who want to destroy it so that jesus will return.
But most boomers want take the money with them and leave nothing to future generations. Hell they do want to burn it all down and they destroy the American dream out of greed.
The me generation that only want them to have it all.
LNSY@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Generation of vipers
kshade@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The author of this article is not nearly old enough to be a boomer though. This is outrage bait.
notatoad@lemmy.world 1 year ago
alternate phrasing: boomers stuffed all their money in their bank accounts instead of building a world their kids could afford to live in
echodot@feddit.uk 1 year ago
As always it’s your fault that you weren’t born into a rich family. If you want to get rich you have to be rich, it’s not hard. Some of the dumbest members of our society manage it all the time.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 year ago
While I can agree about their failures, “don’t save it’s bad for the consumer economy” can go to hell.
notatoad@lemmy.world 1 year ago
i’m not saying “don’t put money into savings”, i’m saying every now and then, make a decision that benefits the world as a whole rather than just your personal financial situation.
boomers didn’t sacrifice their own spending to build their bank accounts, they sacrificed *public* spending to build their own savings accounts.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Are you actually saying that saving instead of being in debt is a bad thing?
Magister@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My Y daughter is doing well, maybe it will be shitty for her to buy a house or condo but she can. My Z one, yeah, I’m helping her, paying stuff here and there like groceries, microwave, etc, she’s in her own flat and all and is not too bad but still, rent is 40% of her earning. It’s ok to help your kids.
atomWood@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I absolutely agree! It’s not a competition, we are all living in the same world with the same problems.
Families are at the centre of any society. Families function best when they help each other out. Parents are meant to sacrifice to help their children, just as their adult children should sacrifice later in life to help them.
littletoolshed@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]lozzasauce@lemmy.world 1 year ago
In the literal sense, yes, but not in the context of marketing cohorts, which are usually based on birth date ranges and are used to group members of society who experience similar pressures and exhibit similar behaviors. Gen Y/Millennial and Gen Z are marketing terms, so it’s possible for a parent to have a child in each.
brambledog@infosec.pub 1 year ago
What?
If you have 1 child born in 1995 and another born in 1999, then your children are of two separate generations.
Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nope this is Lemmy we hate kids here just like Reddit.
Nythos@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I have seen absolutely nowhere near the same hostility people on Reddit have towards children and their parents.
Seems like you’re pulling shit out your arse to cause a rile.
SIGSEGV@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
No one is mentioning upper management and CEO’s pay. The money is trickling up, and that’s more of a problem than all of the other factors combined.
dome_duztah@lemm.ee 1 year ago
UGH! I can’t figure out how to reply OR how to find communites/subs on this app!!!
I totes agree wif yew, doe!!!
RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Corrected headline: boomers voted in austerity assholes and now their kids have to pay for it with their money
sj_zero 1 year ago
I find it hard to wrap my head around the idea that spending more debt than every government before them every single time for decades is austerity. They spent more than all the money constantly. Some austerity would have actually helped but they didn't do that.
Techmaster@lemm.ee 1 year ago
They have been needing to raise taxes on the wealthy for decades, but they’ve been reducing them instead.
bouh@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s exactly the neoliberal agenda: austerity is spending less for workers and public services, and more to help companies so that growth can come back and make earth a paradise free of socialism.
Austerity has nothing to do with spending less. It’s all about taking the money from the poor to give it to the rich.
Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Oops
DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Oh, I’m sorry, of course…it’s OUR fault that we’re broke!
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
According to Forbes? Of course is the fault of the impoverished they didn’t take personal responsibility. Forbes is a magazine for persons with stock portfolios.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s pretty much the main thesis used to justify capitalism. You have the money you deserve. If prosperity isn’t merit-based, then capitalism would be a horrifying abuse of the underclasses.
UmbrellAssassin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ummm yes. Do better.
liztliss@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Good, perhaps the boomers will recognize how impossible the current structure is to live under and actually pay attention to what they are voting for…
Who am I kidding, that’s not going to happen 😭
Pipoca@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A lot of people are in denial about the effects of policies they support.
Just look at the cost of housing. There’s a ton of NIMBY homeowners who are deep in denial that zoning huge swaths of cities to be exclusively mcmansions could possibly cause house prices to be artificially high.
chakan2@lemmy.world 1 year ago
As a NIMBY guy…I’m going to protect my investment. There’s plenty of affordable housing out there, it’s just not 10 minutes walking distance from an urban center.
I can go pay 20k cash and live in a trailer across town if I need to.
Everyone wants low cost housing, no one actually wants to live ina low cost area.
TwoGems@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No they’ll just sit there continuing to pretend climate change isn’t happening
TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A lot of them will recognize the problems, they just blame them on the wrong things.
NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
This is organized gaslighting. Dont get caught up in it.
DharmaCurious@startrek.website 1 year ago
I mean, despite the rampant bootlicking seen in that generation, boomers didn’t create that system. They’re victims of it as well, just victims that generally refuse to see it. My mom absolutely has been fucked over by capitalism, and has fucked herself over helping her kids. But she acknowledges why, and agitates for something better. My dad is a victim of this shitty system, too, but was so brainwashed by cold war propaganda that he can’t see it most of the time. :/ tldr fuck the boomer politicians and brainwashers, try to help regular boomers realize they’re just as much a victim of this shit as we are.
Seraph@kbin.social 1 year ago
Lead poisoning really did a number on that generation. While I'm also angry that they were complacent in what's happened, as I refuse to be, it's like blaming a severely handicapped kid.
Did you know we found out to stop including lead in gas in 1976 because school kids were getting dumber and angrier?
greenhorn@lemm.ee 1 year ago
We knew from the time Thomas Midgley put lead in gas it was toxic, but it was cheaper. He also introduced CFCs to the environment. Sherman Williams reported in 1904 that lead paint was bad, but it took until the 1970s for bans to start, but plenty of places still have no ban.
Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The thing to remember is that they had to rely on trusted authorities in the news or government back then. They didn’t have easy access to primary sources or alternate viewpoints that we have now. That’s why all they can do is pick an authority figure and put all their trust in them. They literally do not know any other way. To them “research” is finding a talking head they like or who looks “trustworthy” and then believing everything they say. It was an age of authority and now we’re moving into an age of transparency and they’re not happy about it. They expected that they would get their turn to be the trusted head of the family and now all their kids and grandkids barely want to talk to them.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
No no. The system they built was great. The thing is, the system was changed by them, just in time to rob all the younger generations blind, then stood back and watched it happen, did nothing, and then they have the balls to blame us when we can’t independently thrive in the system they stood by and allowed to be built.
DessertStorms@kbin.social 1 year ago
It's cute, in a frustrating kind of way, that you think the system was either created that recently, or was ever meant to be anything but exploitative and oppressive and isn't working exactly as designed.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Oh, I know the roots of the system date pretty far back.
Fact is that boomers made good headway, they started unions, health and safety, human resources… Stuff that was basically unheard of before that…
While health and safety still exists, most jobs no longer require significant health and safety protection. HR still very much exists, and also does very little for workers day to day.
Unions have all but been disbanded; if you work an office job, it’s very unlikely that you have a union at all, and it’s unlikely that any whispers of a union are happening.
As a result, most workers are getting shafted in salary and benefits, and on top of that companies are raising prices to inflate their profits even more than simply screwing their workers out of their salary, and you end up with trillions running companies, making hundreds of millions or billions of dollars a year…
This has been going on so long that the problem is completely out of hand.
fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Another article that refers to millennials in third person because they have a target audience that will be dead in 10 years.
gnygnygny@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Hmmmmm 10 years ? Probably not
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 year ago
Child free gang wins again.
Time and money. What a savings.
Asafum@feddit.nl 1 year ago
Same here! Well time at least… Finally I see a benefit to being completely undesirable! Lol
sj_zero 1 year ago
Tbf, the boomers came of age in the 70s, so the economic system was well in decline by then.
Part of the problem is a secular cycle. The baby boom of the postwar period helped fuel a big economic expansion that helped people for a while, but eventually the power of individuals fall because there's so many people.
Most boomers didn't want their jobs to move to China. China is starting to experience the same secular cycle ironically.
Many millennials were the same age during the gfc. Are you to blame for that? Are you to blame for the debt expansion and money printing that have promised to destroy the next generation? Zoomers came of age during covid, are you to blame for covid policies that destroyed the economy?
areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 year ago
You should maybe check the definition of the word secular.
sj_zero 1 year ago
You end up looking really silly when you say something like that.
TwoGems@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Have the elites who tell us we “never want to work” thought about lowering the rent below $3k at times? Even below 2k? Because we can’t work or do shit with no actual place to live.
Misconduct@startrek.website 1 year ago
We have a lot to be mad at property owners for right now. Their lobbying and bullshittery is part of why so many people have to go back into the office and have so few protections against it. If we’re not pointlessly wasting time commuting to the office their properties won’t be worth as much! Won’t somebody think of the poor landlords?? 😔😔
MrSilkworm@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Unfortunately, they fucked around for us to find out. I don’t feel bad if they find out a little bit too.
triclops6@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Thing is, it’s not the same “they”. Those who profited off the working class and shut the door behind them are not the ones seeing their finances ravaged because their kids live in the basement.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Of course, we can’t blame boomers for poor decisions or tell them to skip that avocado toast. Clearly they must continue to suck the remaining resources from life so that they have something to bring to the afterlife when they finally croak.
gowan@reddthat.com 1 year ago
They did not build the system. They failed to maintain the aspects that preserved its function
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I have no savings for retirement. Every spare penny I invest in the success of my family, mostly my own kids. I don’t need to go to Florida and hang out playing golf.
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Honestly? Fuck “Fortune.” I hope it will eventually be called “Bankrupt.”
ChewTiger@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Can they drag a few others down with them?
havokdj@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wrong way to see it, yeah the boomers are rich but a lot of Gen X are broke as shit too. Kids cost money, and with the direction the economy is going, it is just the sad reality we face.
I am extremely thankful for the help my parents have given me, my dad was broke as hell for most of my childhood despite working his ass off, and this was pre-2009 recession, the recession made it worse and it is only recent he is starting to get a real foothold on finances.
MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 year ago
Children cost, who would have thought.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve gotten tired of this whole “everyone from this generation thinks the same, acts the same, is poor/wealthy”, etc bullshit. The coincidence of your birthday doesn’t automatically identify you.
just_change_it@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The era of a strong economy was brought on by factors from WW2 and the weakening was brought on by 2-3x growth in world population.
More people fitting into the same cities means less space and more demand.
More people means more workers for jobs that pay even less because the competition is fiercer than ever.
More people means more percentage of resources going to surviving and less on luxuries.
We can give a small % of global population luxury. US QOL isn’t sustainable on a global scale with the resources available in the world.
smosjoske@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
In my opinion, the whole population growth excuse is always an excuse and leads to dangerous results. The growth in population in Western countries has completely decimated since WW2. At this moment, only Africa is thought to have a positive growth number in the coming years. The population has grown, but the needs of almost the entire world have drastically increased. Leading to enormous growth in wealth and also productivity. That productivity has not been translated into less work, and the population increase has not translated into less work. Both of those things have translated into more wealth and more wealth inequality. Blaming the housing crisis/ financial crisis on too many people will only lead to racism, while the system keeps sucking everyone dry and making very few rich. There is plenty to go around, and the population growth is a story of the last century. We will reach our cap this century with all its effects to it.
Grimr0c@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This is wildly incorrect. Where the heck did you get this data from??
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
Population means more labor and more consumption as well. For all of human history before thr industrial age, labor shortages were dire.
The problems that come with overpopulation are pollution and shortages of specific resources. No this is about unchecked capitalism focusing all the resources to a tiny elite class. Even more concentrated than the wealth in France, 1789.
mind@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That is misleading, because the GDP per capital has increased at the same time standards of living fell.
There isn’t less wealth per person, there’s more inequality.
We’re living at a time of abundance, but it’s not being distributed as evenly as in the past.
There’s no inherent reason people can’t have homes, healthcare, and affordable college. It’s just that increased productivity was counterbalanced by even more concentration of wealth and power.
Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Anytime someone claims to know why the economy behaves the way it does I am immediately skeptical. Unless thr reason is to establish inequality we should see able to use the information to establish a better syatem.
Cybersteel@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So what you’re saying is fifty percent of all life
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
1% of the U.S. population holds >31% of the country’s wealth. Is it any wonder so many of the rest of us are broke?
MorrisonMotel6@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Late Gen X with a Gen Z kid here, not contributing nearly as much to my retirement as I should be because I’m supporting her through college (without loans). We inherited this shit and we’re sacrificing ourselves for the sake of our kids. I don’t know who’s to blame, but we’ve been dealing with this shit out whole lives. Don’t blame us; we’re trying to help
doingthestuff@lemmy.world 1 year ago
At least you can help your kids. My older daughter is going through college on loans which I don’t advocate but it is her choice. I can’t even keep my cars running.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What retirements? What savings?
samus12345@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“Fuck planting a tree, I’ll never get to sit in its shade!”
danciestlobster@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What’s retirement? -the adult children
skybreaker@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean, is it really surprising that a generation full of Karens who have blamed other people their whole life for their problems are now blaming their posterity?
herrwoland@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Come on son, we worked hard and ruined the economy and the climate and the nature, now be a good boy and pay for our retirement.