It’s intellectually dishonest to suggest we older people broke the system. And the story is true. A large number of parents with adult children have to make sacrifices to their own retirement plans to take care of their kids. This is a systemic problem, not something to blame on Gen Xers and Boomers.
Really, ….. it's my fault they built a terrible system?
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NathanielThomas@lemmy.world 1 year ago
danciestlobster@lemmy.world 1 year ago
While I definitely agree with you here, the systemic problem is in place due to an extreme overabundance of boomers sitting in Washington creating systematic problems and perpetuating existing ones. So, yes, not all boomers are culpable and blaming the whole generation is excessive, but perhaps this helps shed some light where the sentiment comes from.
Also, for most anyone after the boomer generation, retirement will be a complete financial impossibility so boomers inconveniencing their retirement for the sake of those who will never get to doesn’t feel too out of line
NathanielThomas@lemmy.world 1 year ago
extreme overabundance of boomers sitting in Washington
They’re silent generation, even. They’re born in the 30s and 40s, still running shit into their 90s.
Also, for most anyone after the boomer generation, retirement will be a complete financial impossibility
Well, that’s not sustainable. It’s not like people can keep working past their 60s.
bouh@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Boomers are more to vote for conservative and liberals, more to vote, and a bigger part of the population. That’s the truth of stats a’d demography. It’s not all boomers, but as a generation, they failed their grand-children. And it comes to bite them now, which is the biggest surprise to me. I really thought they wouldn’t see the collapse of the system or the global warming effects.
bob_wiley@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]MorningstarCorndog@lemmy.today 1 year ago
You sound like somebody who had an incredibly fortunate childhood and you don’t understand anything about people who actually had to work to get where they are.
You claim that your parents didn’t support you but they paid your college. It sounds like you got supported a lot.
The people who really had to pull themselves up by their bootstraps are people like me. I quit a full ride scholarship to go back home and get a job to support my father and family after he broke his back at work and it took two years before his disability paid out.
From there I was destitute and I’ve had to work my way back up to a point where I can afford to pay college out of pocket by myself while also affording all of my other expenses (like purchasing a house, and supporting my own family as an adult.) I’ve had to make serious sacrifices in my life.
You really should be less judgmental about other people because you sound ignorant when you make those comments.
dodslaser@feddit.nu 1 year ago
Uphill in the snow both ways, and so on…
randomdeadguy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Bless your heart
Wanderer@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The system needs changing.
The goal should be overtime everything gets relatively cheaper and relatively better. Housing is the big exception.
Stop immigration as a mean of increasing population and keeping wages down.
In crease density in cities even if it means new taxes (LVT) or forced government buy outs.
Built new cities or high density suburbs with direct train links to the city centre.
jenniebuckley@lemmy.world 1 year ago
what’s the point of having kids if you’re not gonna do anything for them the second they turn 18
Kinglink@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No but “They built a terrible system.” if your parents were congressmen or business owners, you might have a point, but the actual affect the average person has on the system is negligible. The rich and powerful were going to destroy it. That’s why it doesn’t really matter who sits in the presidential chair, bad laws still get made, and only the absolute worst get repealed, because they all overall agree with the direction of the country, it consolidates their power when they get it.
adibis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s a result of weak parenting.
BudgieMania@kbin.social 1 year ago
It is, at least partially, an inevitable consequence of an educational system that, whether by design or by accident, makes social mobility really difficult. Accessing advanced education often requires financial or personal sacrifices that are harder to make for lower income parents and kids. This is also compounded with the fact that in many places there's a perception that if you want a really good job you will need to go through this advanced education.
I was in that situation myself, I was always told that I couldn't expect to get a really great job in IT unless I went to college, which was unfeasible for me both financially and in terms of my aptitudes as a student. But fortunately for me, I discovered that my country had a vocational education system that prioritized the quick transition from education to employment, and a mere year and a half later I had a decent job, six years later I am an engineer. Turns out it wasn't necessary to go through four years of extremely expensive, pointless hoops, I only needed a chance to prove myself in a professional environment. It only cost my family 800 euros in two payments, now we are doing well financially.
So yeah, maybe just maybe if there were more systems in place like that, we wouldn't be reading how more and more parents are having to sacrifice everything just to give their kids a chance at some sort of future, you know?
Idk maybe I'm rambling.
DessertStorms@kbin.social 1 year ago
You've identified a part, and symptom, of the system. What is behind it is capitalism.
Our education systems are designed to make us complacent worker drones incapable of critical thinking. Our higher education systems are sold as a necessity for anyone who wants a slightly less crappy life, and ensure anyone who doesn't already come from money who wants to go down that path starts their life in deep debt, making them desperate and easier to exploit.
These are all features of the system there to ensure it's own existence.
Nerrad@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No, but its your fault you’re still a teenager.
query@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Stuck in the carbonite again.
YashaB@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t think it is the way forward to lay blame on our elders, or to be disrespectful towards any generation other than our own. Some people are stupid, some are not. Stupity is not dependent on age. We all blunder through life and fuck up sometimes. Beeing smarter after the fact isn’t that much of an achievement.
archiotterpup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nah, they voted for this shit. We wouldn’t have this problem if they didn’t vote for Reagan.
Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Grow the fuck up.
Millennials are between 25 and 40 years old now and you guys are still blaming “the system”?!
You guys ARE the system, at this point in time.
For fucks sakes, you should be well past the age of being in college and should have many years (nearing a couple of decades at this point in time for the older millennials) into the work force. You are also the single largest voting bloc, but you don’t exercise that power so even though Boomers are now a smaller group, they out-vote you by a wide margin making them more important. You still haven’t connected the dots that those who vote the most get the most attention from politicians?? There’s a reason why the rec center has a broken AC, but the senior bus has those expensive, cushy seats.
If you are still blaming anyone for your failures in life, you should be blaming yourselves. If the world isn’t the way you want, then get off your asses and be the change that you want to see. You are the largest generation, but you still act like a tiny minority group. Obama was in his mid 30s when he was elected to the Senate, and in his mid-to-late 40s when he was elected President. Yet as of 2 years ago, Millennials only represented about 6% of Congress. Are you expecting those seats to just be handed to you? Because that’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works.
You guys are still acting like you’re some powerless 16 years old and still need to beg your mom to borrow the car on Friday night. Hell, even older Zoomers are in their mid 20s at this point in time and have little excuse for their woes.
Devouring@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The irony is that people think that giving the government more power and more money will solve their problems… weird that 100 years ago when taxes were miniscule and government funding was too small, people were rich compared to today, and a single income was enough to fund a whole family.
s1ndr0m3@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The period of time 100 years ago is referred to as “The Roaring 20s” and it led to the Great Depression. In the 1950s we had a top marginal tax rate of 90% and that period saw the largest and wealthiest middle class we’ve ever had.
dx1@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Several oversimplifications in a row. “Roaring Twenties” were fed by the nascent Federal Reserve ballooning the economy through the 20s and an inevitable contraction occurring at the end with a huge regulatory clampdown, expansion of the state and prolonged low interest rates/inflation into the 40s. The “top marginal tax rates” were essentially base rates and the effective rates paid were close to half that. A more meaningful metric is federal spending as % of GDP by year:
which, taking into consideration that the economy has been growing in the last 80 years, indicates that federal spending has been gradually increasing ever since. The spike in the 40s is of course the enormous WWII spending.
fugepe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Young men keep voting against their interest for liberals makes this part of their fault. Ask Canadians about it.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Haha. Good. Suck it.
mojo@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Have they not figured out yet that this whole capitalism thing is imploding on itself