It could also be solved by everybody putting the seat and lid up. This will be an eternal debate.
The whole "toilet seat up, toilet seat down" gender debate could be solved by everybody putting the seat and lid down.
Submitted 9 hours ago by Quilotoa@lemmy.ca to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I’m a man living alone, with a cat. The seat has been down for 10 years.
dontsayaword@piefed.social 8 hours ago
Most toilet visits require the seat down
Lid closed when flushing prevents contamination particles spraying everywherejdnewmil@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
Easy if you make assertions without citations. The lid appears not to be effective at spreading contamination. www.ajicjournal.org/article/…/fulltext
dontsayaword@piefed.social 8 hours ago
Well dang. Reading this article does provide q couple more details though:
* Another referenced study DID find that closing the lid reduced contamination
* It depends on the toilet shape
* Closing the lid does change the areas that get contaminated in the room:
https://www.ajicjournal.org/cms/10.1016/j.ajic.2023.11.020/asset/171d40ff-18ca-4d0c-9897-5d94d0282ebd/main.assets/gr3.jpgAll in all (including my first point that most trips require it down anyway) and as a matter of personal preference (I think its nicer to have the lid closed), I’ll continue to close my lid.
tburkhol@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Are you sure you read that right? They report contamination in log units, so a reduction from 6.23 to 4.81 is a 26x difference. There’s not much difference on the faces of lid & seat that directly face the bowl, but even the seat top had 15x more contaminants with the lid up than down.
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 8 hours ago
Definitely put the lid down before flushing. No need so splash the sharticles all over the toilet
remon@ani.social 8 hours ago
So after flushing do you open it again to check or how does this work?
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 39 minutes ago
Yes. I’m not yet that feeble that the lid is too heavy to lift again.
7uWqKj@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Yes of course
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
If you need to open your toilet lid to check anything, you’ve got other problems that need solving beyond lid up or down.
llama@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
Lol I did this at my first job thinking that was only fair and then I overheard the female boss go into another coworkers office to ask her if she put the toilet seat all the way down. Apparently men are the only gender who should ever be touching a toilet seat at all.
BorgDrone@feddit.nl 8 hours ago
Leaving it as-is after use is the most efficient (least number of seat movements)
Oka@sopuli.xyz 1 hour ago
They want to normalize the position so its the same for every user. Statistically, people with vaginas sit ~100% of the time, while people with penises sit between ~20% and 100% of the time based on choice or situation. So the logical and most efficient solution is lid up, seat down, after every use.
Even better if the seat has a gap for urine streams, then you will never have to adjust the seat.
BorgDrone@feddit.nl 51 minutes ago
They want to normalize the position so its the same for every user.
That doesn’t make sense if users aren’t all the same.
bizarroland@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
It could also be resolved by everybody agreeing to be responsible for the toilet when they go to use it.
Don’t get me wrong. When I have female company, I do my best to leave the seat down.
It’s only ever been chided or the issue once or twice in my life.
In my opinion it’s on you to make sure the bathroom is ready for you when you go to use it.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
That’s what we do in our house, I decided it was the easiest way to be sure my son actually lifts the seat. If he has to lift the lid, he’ll just lift the seat at the same time.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 3 hours ago
If you leave the seat down how do you poop in the hole?
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
if I have learned anything from my time using public restrooms, having it open is still confusing for some as shit still gets smeared all over the walls, floor, and ceiling.
groet@feddit.org 4 hours ago
It could also be solved in any other way.
Everybody puting the toilet upside down. Everybody going outside and not having a debate anymore. Everybody outing the seat up. Everybody getting a seatles toilet.
The “everybody agreeing one one solution” is the thing that ends the debate and not what the solution is.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 hours ago
I prefer up:
- I get to see if the water is actually leaving and stops flowing when it’s supposed to, which often happens not to be the case
- It’s easier to put it up than down for me
No. 2 might not make much sense, but I don’t like touching the seat. It’s far easier to put it up with the side of my sole than do the opposite.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 7 hours ago
Having dogs solved the problem in my house
atro_city@fedia.io 6 hours ago
Lid is up because dogs piss in the toilet?
danciestlobster@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
I did this since childhood out of spite. Child me was frustrated that I always had to put it down for my sister and she never had to move the toilet seat anywhere. It made no sense. So instead of putting just the seat down I put the whole thing, lid and all, down so that she had to move the toilet lid every time she used it too.
This spite play became a habit that I now do always everywhere
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Have the ceramic only, no seats, and the problem’s solved!
brap@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
You don’t all just choose the lid when done? That’s like opening a cupboard in the kitchen to get something then just leaving the cupboard open isn’t it?
Besides, with the lid closed it’s harder to accidentally drop something in there.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 5 hours ago
That’s like opening a cupboard in the kitchen to get something then just leaving the cupboard open isn’t it?
This is a thousand times more annoying!
And every other person I have ever shared a house with does it, it is sociopathic, how can people have attention spans this goddamn small, it takes 2 seconds, I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds-
Hawke@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
opening a cupboard in the kitchen to get something then just leaving the cupboard open isn’t it?
I feel personally attacked.
plyth@feddit.org 8 hours ago
It can be solved if we acknowledge the wet spots in front of public urinals. Too many men can’t aim and should sit anyway.
BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I venture splashing is more an issue than aiming in urinals… I mean if you’re not drunk or a soccer player it’s hard to miss a target this close
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
We have a toddler in the house. We keep the lid down because it gives us a few extra seconds in case he slips past us into the restroom and wants to splash around.
answersplease77@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
not if you live with a guy who piss standing and all over the seat
DBT@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
If you live with an lazy, inconsiderate asshole the toilet seat is probably the least of your problems.
eddanja@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
If you sprinkle when you tinkle, please be neat and wipe the seat.
Dojan@pawb.social 8 hours ago
This debate always makes me think of Toni’s reaction to “closing the toilet lid when you flush.”
I didn’t know that people left the lid up. Feels a bit like not closing the door of a fridge after you’re done.
atro_city@fedia.io 6 hours ago
The true solution is to have a device you hook up to that extracts the pee and poop from your body, wipes you down, and sends you on your way. There will be no lid, no seat, just one hole in the wall you hook up to.
BananaPeal@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
In my 20s, I worked in a place primarily staffed by women. As in it was just me and one other guy on the floor and we didn’t work the same shift. I intentionally left the seat up, waiting for a day to get spoken to about it. Somehow in my young mind, I thought I might be able to sue for discrimination. Yeah, I was kinda dumb. Nobody ever spoke to me, so I never had the opportunity to test that.
Currently, I try to put the seat down when I’m done, even though it’s one sitter and three standers in my home. My thought is that it doesn’t inconvenience me to put it down, so I do it.
pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 minutes ago
I wish more people had that attitude in general
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
I’m a bachelor. I live alone. My toilet gets configured exactly as I say it does.
When not in use or being cleaned, the seat and lid are closed. Because I’d expect Izzy to fall into the toilet then go scampering around getting toilet water on literally everything, only to go to the litter box, get shit grit stuck to her wet fur and track THAT all over the house…
Cat proof toilet: close lid. That is an order.
underisk@lemmy.ml 7 hours ago
I started doing this after my roommate got upset with me because she blindly sat down and fell in. Then she got upset because she interpreted this as passive aggressive.
BlackVenom@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Seat up - ready and clean 99% of the time
Seat down - pissed on 99% of the time
You pick… no kink shaming.
noxypaws@pawb.social 4 hours ago
the washlet on our main toilet looks aesthetically better with the lid down, so it’s always down even though we’re a house of two cis men
tho heated seat incentivizes sitting to pee anyways
ramble81@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Or you could make sure it always goes up.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Diapers
stoly@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
The better option is a fancy japanese toilet that opens and closes itself as you enter and leave the room.
SolidShake@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I always put the lid down out of habit. But you end up cleaning the toilet more from mold build up in the bowl.
superweeniehutjrs@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Yeah, I don’t want splash water getting anywhere else than the bowl. Also, what if I accidentally fumble something and drop it in the water. Even if there weren’t a lid, I’d put the seat down in case of a level 10 emergency