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The whole "toilet seat up, toilet seat down" gender debate could be solved by everybody putting the seat and lid down.

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Quilotoa@lemmy.ca⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

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  • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Having dogs solved the problem in my house

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    • atro_city@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Lid is up because dogs piss in the toilet?

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  • brap@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You don’t all just choose the lid when done? That’s like opening a cupboard in the kitchen to get something then just leaving the cupboard open isn’t it?

    Besides, with the lid closed it’s harder to accidentally drop something in there.

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    • FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s like opening a cupboard in the kitchen to get something then just leaving the cupboard open isn’t it?

      This is a thousand times more annoying!

      And every other person I have ever shared a house with does it, it is sociopathic, how can people have attention spans this goddamn small, it takes 2 seconds, I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds-

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    • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      opening a cupboard in the kitchen to get something then just leaving the cupboard open isn’t it?

      I feel personally attacked.

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  • plyth@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It can be solved if we acknowledge the wet spots in front of public urinals. Too many men can’t aim and should sit anyway.

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    • BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I venture splashing is more an issue than aiming in urinals… I mean if you’re not drunk or a soccer player it’s hard to miss a target this close

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  • Michal@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Next best thing is to leave the seat as it was when you used it. This way the next person needs to change it only if they need it.

    Having said that, in my household we close lid altogether, but sometimes female guests leave the lid up, with the seat down 🙄

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  • Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Use a bidet.

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    • nomy@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Ok, but that has nothing to do with putting the seat down or leaving it up.

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    • wetsoggybread@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Bidets have nothing to do with the toilet seat unless you’re talking about guys pissing in the bidet which I guess you could do but not everyone has one

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  • Dojan@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This debate always makes me think of Toni’s reaction to “closing the toilet lid when you flush.”

    I didn’t know that people left the lid up. Feels a bit like not closing the door of a fridge after you’re done.

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  • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s 2026. This discussion is no longer gendered, though it is still somewhat equipment dependent.

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    • TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Also, not really that. I only stand up to pee if I’m in a hurry or in the woods or something. If I’m on company time, my cheeks are on the seat

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  • aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That’s what I do. If you get a soft close lid all it requires is a tiny tap on the lid.

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  • mp04610@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    In this house we do lid up and seat down.

    Every family member is asked to sit down.

    Both decisions are purely convenience driven:

    lid up -> you can just sit down without having to touch or adjust anything. After you’re done, you just get up without touching anything (except to flush).

    seat down -> I’m unwilling to deal with the mess created by people (myself included) that inevitably happens when peeing standing up. So everybody sitting is the way to go.

    Where this fails is guests that are unfamiliar with how we do it. It also doesn’t take splashes from flushing into consideration. But in all my years of using the facilities, I have not noticed a significant amount of dirt around the toilet that I would consider problematic.

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    • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The point of lid down is that while flushing you don’t spray shit aerosol through the whole room.

      Next time you flush with the lid open, just take a second to visualize the shit you are breathing right then.

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      • ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yeah, or maybe just don’t do that, because that’s not how physics work.

        Do you think you are contaminated by something when you walk the subway in smell urine?

        It’s just a harmless combination of gasses that we have learned to identify as such. It’s literally impossible for any “particles” to travel that far, else you would constantly get smear infections just standing near a public bathroom.

        What people write here sometimes borders psychologic compulsion disorder.

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  • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That’s what we do in our house, I decided it was the easiest way to be sure my son actually lifts the seat. If he has to lift the lid, he’ll just lift the seat at the same time.

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  • user224@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I prefer up:

    1. I get to see if the water is actually leaving and stops flowing when it’s supposed to, which often happens not to be the case
    2. It’s easier to put it up than down for me

    No. 2 might not make much sense, but I don’t like touching the seat. It’s far easier to put it up with the side of my sole than do the opposite.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    We have a toddler in the house. We keep the lid down because it gives us a few extra seconds in case he slips past us into the restroom and wants to splash around.

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  • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    it’s the default solution in my house because of the cats

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  • DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This is what do in my home for a long time and my wife can’t complain.

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  • slickgoat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Or leaving it up.

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If you leave the seat down how do you poop in the hole?

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      if I have learned anything from my time using public restrooms, having it open is still confusing for some as shit still gets smeared all over the walls, floor, and ceiling.

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  • groet@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It could also be solved in any other way.

    Everybody puting the toilet upside down. Everybody going outside and not having a debate anymore. Everybody outing the seat up. Everybody getting a seatles toilet.

    The “everybody agreeing one one solution” is the thing that ends the debate and not what the solution is.

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  • atro_city@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The true solution is to have a device you hook up to that extracts the pee and poop from your body, wipes you down, and sends you on your way. There will be no lid, no seat, just one hole in the wall you hook up to.

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  • underisk@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I started doing this after my roommate got upset with me because she blindly sat down and fell in. Then she got upset because she interpreted this as passive aggressive.

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  • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Diapers

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  • Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    stop crying about nonsense.
    seat goes up.

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Just out it back as you found it. Easy peesy.

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    • blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Negligent child finds it down, leaves it up. Spouse find it up, follows your rule, leaves it up.

      Obnoxious buzzer sound

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      • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Teach the child to leave it down if you want it left down.

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  • GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    That’s the point.

    You just can’t admit that women are right.

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  • answersplease77@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    not if you live with a guy who piss standing and all over the seat

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    • DBT@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If you live with an lazy, inconsiderate asshole the toilet seat is probably the least of your problems.

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    • eddanja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If you sprinkle when you tinkle, please be neat and wipe the seat.

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  • BananaPeal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    In my 20s, I worked in a place primarily staffed by women. As in it was just me and one other guy on the floor and we didn’t work the same shift. I intentionally left the seat up, waiting for a day to get spoken to about it. Somehow in my young mind, I thought I might be able to sue for discrimination. Yeah, I was kinda dumb. Nobody ever spoke to me, so I never had the opportunity to test that.

    Currently, I try to put the seat down when I’m done, even though it’s one sitter and three standers in my home. My thought is that it doesn’t inconvenience me to put it down, so I do it.

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    • pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I wish more people had that attitude in general

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I’m a bachelor. I live alone. My toilet gets configured exactly as I say it does.

    When not in use or being cleaned, the seat and lid are closed. Because I’d expect Izzy to fall into the toilet then go scampering around getting toilet water on literally everything, only to go to the litter box, get shit grit stuck to her wet fur and track THAT all over the house…

    Cat proof toilet: close lid. That is an order.

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  • SolidShake@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I always put the lid down out of habit. But you end up cleaning the toilet more from mold build up in the bowl.

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  • NachBarcelona@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Do you think there’s actually such a debate?

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  • PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So where does the excrement go, on the lid?

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  • gunny@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    How about no toilets? How about no cities?

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