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Miku innit

The world is hers, after all

Some rules are written in blood. This one was written in something else.

We’ve had a bunch of those here in Ukraine, too. Took a while to establish the latest iteration, though.

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Yeah, toki pona phonetics are ideal for an international language, literally every phoneme is extremely common

I’m just saying that’s not the author’s intention, it’s more of an experiment to see how minimalistic you can make a constructed language. On the other hand, simplicity is good for an international language, so who knows, maybe something derived from toki pona can actually do the job.

language do need some diversity in its phonology or the words would have to be very long and least recognizable

The existence of the distinctions I’ve mentioned is what makes words unrecognisable. In every somewhat widespread language in the world, at least once of those doesn’t exist, so to native speakers of that language, there will be at least one pair of words in Esperanto that straight up sound the same, but spell differently and means different things. Do I really need to explain how that’s bad for an international language?

Toki pona is an interesting example, though it’s not an international auxiliary language. But it still relies on a simplistic phonetic inventory and limited core vocabulary to make communication as easy as possible.

Have you looked at which phonemes Esperanto has? If you look me in the eyes and say an international language needs to have a distinction between [h] (written as “h") and [x] (written as “ĥ"), I can only make a conclusion you’re trolling. See also distinctions between:

• fricatives and affricates
• voiced and voiceless plosives
• “r” and “l”
• “v” and “w” (which is also for some ungodly reason written as “ŭ")

We only need “th” to become a full fledged abomination.

Also, yes, all is not most. But it is concerning if the “most” conveniently all happen to be languages from the same family, spoken in the same relatively small region.

quite limited

If you’re Polish

most spoken languages of the world

Haven’t seen any vocabulary from Mandarin in Esperanto

Not every Indo-European is going to have a compatible phonetic inventory or vocabulary. It’s specifically very limited to Europe, as is grammar.

Oh, don’t get me wrong, I still think Esperanto was an amazing attempt at a global communication tool. It just didn’t age that well, in my opinion. And the whole concept of an artificial global language is still something that should be pursued.

What can I say, the bar isn’t high. It avoids some hard to learn features but introduces others, mostly in the phonetics and orthography.

That is also true.

That still makes it a poor tool for global communication. Within EU, maybe. But not global. More than half of global population is going to have to learn a dozen of new sounds and distinctions in pronunciation to even start.

as an artificial language it doesn’t prefer any culture over another

as long as it’s European, of course

Let me guess: your native language is Germanic, Romance or Slavic.

Esperanto’s phonetics, phonotactics, vocabulary and grammar are all overly Eurocentric and twice as complicated as they should be for a language that is presented as a tool for global communication. And don’t even get me started on diacritics.

Anyone who grew up speaking a non-Indo-European language is going to have a hard time even getting the hang of the alphabet and all the sounds.

Note to self: do not make a language intended for global communication by just mixing 3 European languages and taking the hardest to learn features from them.

Never ask a russian history teacher about soviet army in 1939-41

The parts of it that aren’t russia or belarus, anyway

Ah yes, the BFG (Big Fluffy Gay) cannon

His mom doesn’t even have the explosive Quirk, she’s just built different