Submitted 5 months ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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The thing is too that mushrooms don’t even cook like vegetables or even like a protein or anything. So not only are they not botanically vegetables, they aren’t even culinarily vegetables either.
Also if you don’t like mushrooms because of the texture, you’re probably cooking your mushrooms wrong.
Also if you don’t like mushrooms because of the texture,
I think mushrooms get a bad rap. People talk about the dirt they’re in being grown in feces, like it’s any different than every other crop that’s grown. Potatoes are grown up close and personal in soil too and soil isn’t clean :)
We might find there’s a flavor component like cilantro that some can taste. Or maybe they just don’t like the idea of the grown in soil and hard to clean, or maybe they don’t like that we’re eating the repuductive organs.
my brother-in-law hates them, but loves my mashed potato dish that loaded down. I just reduce mushrooms, garlic, and onions in butter until they’re about to start to get firm then blitz them to slightly chunky gravy, stir that back into refrigerated looosely smashed potatoes, with some soft butter and a little chicken bone broth. When i’m done the flavor is still there, but it’s a background note to the potato/butter/chicken
I just think mushrooms taste like shit, meh at best, not a texture thing.
I mean there’s only hundreds of them, you have tried them all right?
It’s like saying I don’t like all meat because you dislike snake jerky.
Is that just the normal ones you find at the grocery store, or have you tried other types? I think oyster mushrooms are really good when you fry them until they are crispy. Lion’s mane is really good too, I like to make vegan pulled pork with them. The flavor of some foraged ones are also amazing like chantarell and black trumpets. Chicken of the woods also tastes and kinda feels like lemony dry chicken. There’s soooo many great mushrooms
Mushrooms are detachable fungal penises that jizz into the wind.
That’s cool. I like that I’m sucking off cooked rudimentary peni.
As you should.
What an inspiration to us all
vegetable fruit discourse is fucking stupid. just call’em edibles if we’re not getting into the scientifically proven specifics.
All fruits are vegetables.
I’m not a vegetable!
all fruits are fucking vegetables… oh wait
fucking fucking
The fucking mushrooms.
fucking fucking
I know this is probably a repost but the self-censorship is super annoying and has entered the lexicon in ways that can permanently damage human communication as a whole.
Yeah sure censor stuff from kid shows but we’re at the point where “unalive” and “pdf file” are being used as code words. Everyone knows what they mean, even the censors.
It’s annoying that its driven by ad revenues, and made more dumb by the fact that if everyone can decode it, then they’re still advertising over sex and violence. So the whole endeavor is pointless.
But I don’t think it will cause any harm. Humans have been using slang, code, and memetic language to obscure meaning from others and identify their in-crowds since the dawn of human language. Some of it is dumber than others, but it won’t cause any harm.
There is absolutely no chance that this idiotic self censorship can permanently damage human communication.
It’s also extremely weird because people often just default to the “hidden meaning” completely ignoring context. There were so many instances where I was being shouted at for writing “CP” *on the Cyberpunk subreddit, it was just weird…
100% agree, we live in a 1984 age.
Also, using stupid words such as unalive doesn’t make any sense because the algorithm of social media companies knows exactly what it means.
Its coming from Tiktok. Bytedance had heavy word censorship and if one of your comments or videos was flagged as inappropriate and had one of those words your account would be automatically suspended for review.
So a lot of normal westerm words got flagged. Kill. Dead. Any word related to sex. Hole. (Lol) basically every curse word.
Then there are gray words like Pedophile where people think it changes the algorithm to show your videos less if they contain them, but no one has any proof from what I can tell.
I use things like “he has chosen to meet his ancestors right then and there”
I dont like mushrooms, maybe this is why… :)
Some mushrooms are nice. Some are cold hearted killers.
I laughed out loud for being downvoted for not liking mushrooms. Lol. :)
First of all, cucumbers get the same flak, and those are actually green.
There certainly are feelings associated with the fact that we can analyze the DNA of rots
I had always learned if it has seeds (in nature) then it was a fruit, otherwise it was a vegetable or something else
The definition strictly is “fruiting body”, that their flower head goes through a process of becoming a fruiting body
if it has seeds (in nature) then it was a fruit, otherwise it was a vegetable
Many vegetables have seeds.
Pumpkins are already in the example, but think peppers, legumes
I would still consider those fruits tbh, but yea they do draw the line
I have a simple flowchart to determine what is or isn’t a veggie:
> Can I eat it? -> Yes -> Does it come from an animal? -> No = Vegetable
Behold a vegetable
Ahh Diogenes the greatest philosopher
Gushers are vegetables, got it.
I also add: Does it taste good?
I do this because of cranberries. I do not eat anything that you can make candles or soap from…
I mostly agree, but there’s a few holes in that chart:
My favorite vegetables are salt and ice.
Rocks are vegetables nodnod
Rice, my favorite vegetable.
… Is it not?
Being a grain (or even specifically a “Cereal grain”) doesn’t exclude it, see corn.
That’s why they call you the bread man.
Sand has a lot of minerals in it. Probably the healthiest veggie of them all!
Aren’t fruits technically vegetables anyway? Like isn’t a “vegetable” simply any edible part of a plant?
VEGETABLES DO NOT EXIST
My wife and I like to joke that vegetables aren’t real and all of them are just something else in reality.
You’re correct! “Vegetable” is a culinary term. “Fruit” is both botanical and culinary. The “tomato isn’t a fruit” nonsense comes from people trying to conflate the two; if we called botanical fruits “grunkles” we wouldn’t have this problem.
All in favor of renaming botanical fruits to “gruntled”?
Aye
Tomatoes are biologically fruit, but culinary they are a vegetable.
You wouldn’t expect them to put an orange slice on your burger because you asked for some veg, would you? But you’d expect tomatoes.
In spanish tomatoes are called “hortalizas”, the others are “verduras” apart of “frutas”, fruits, in english only traduced with vegetables and fruits. Maybe because Spain has a better food culture. Mushrooms are something in between plants and animals in a separate genre. The US anyway differences only protein, sugar and decoration, tomatoes in Bottles from Heinz.
Why you hatin’ on mushrooms? They’re a fungi, if you get to know 'em
Big Mushroom is taking the slow play, and frankly, it’s impressive
I always categorized them as a snake
I’m sorry, who exactly is out here calling mushrooms vegetables??
I believe, it’s a US thing. This is a quote from the official Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGA):
Other Vegetables: All other fresh, frozen, and canned vegetables, cooked or raw: for example, asparagus, avocado, bamboo shoots, beets, bitter melon, Brussels sprouts, cabbage (green, red, napa, savoy), cactus pads (nopales), cauliflower, celery, chayote (mirliton), cucumber, eggplant, green beans, kohlrabi, luffa, mushrooms, okra, onions, radish, rutabaga, seaweed, snow peas, summer squash, tomatillos, and turnips.
Source: dietaryguidelines.gov/…/Dietary_Guidelines_for_Am… (page 28)
I’ve read elsewhere that the reason for the DGA to conflate them, is because mushrooms have comparable nutrients to vegetables. So, from a dietary and regulatory viewpoint, it makes some amount of sense. But yeah, I feel like you could have just had a category “vegetables & mushrooms”.
I am American.
If it goes in soup, it’s a vegetable. If it goes in Sangria, it’s a fruit.
Next question please.
As always, science sets us free.
So water, salt, cheese, meat, and noodles are all vegetables?
Hmmm. Since breakfast cereal is demonstrably soup, that makes strawberries, Cheerios, and Reese’s Puffs all vegetables. Good to know.
Is water a fruit or a vegetable
Most.
I absolutely call them vegetables. It’s a kitchen term and it absolutely makes sense to categorise them alongside tomatoes, beans, carrots, squash and cabbage. People get too hung up on things only belonging to exactly one category.
Seriously this whole thing is not a problem at all unless you’re somehow not familiar with words having more meaning. It’s a fruit (botanically) and not a fruit (culinary). I don’t understand how we’ve gotten like 40 years of discussion out of it at this point.
Vegetable is a culinary category, with no botanical/biological definition. I don’t see a reason why mushrooms don’t belong in it.
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Fruit has a botanical and a culinary definition.
Vegetable only has a culinary definition.
Trying to decide on what food fits which category purely on the botanical definition of fruit is silly. In many other languages, the botanical and culinary definition even use completely different words. It’s like saying lobster is red meat using the scientific definition of red.
But if we are having fun with this, rhubarb: definitely no fruit, far too sweet to fit nicely into vegetable.
When people say that they are wrong. There are two different definitions for the word "fruit". They're homonyms for completely different words. It's like if i ask you: Which is lighter, a black Mini Cooper, or a white Hummer? Depends on which definition of "lighter" you're asking about
Intelligence is knowing tomatoes are a fruit
Wisom is knowing to never add it to a fruit salad
What? Who’s calling pumpkins, squashes, and cucumbers vegetables?
And no one calls mushrooms vegetables: mushrooms are mushrooms.
ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s the difference between the culinary use of the word and the biological use of the word. I thought we already figured that out?
rumba@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Still a fun observation in relation to mushrooms.