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  • protist@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It says VOA at the bottom. Volunteers of America manages a ton of affordable and voucher-based properties around the country. Some of the people I’ve helped move into units with them have been on the streets for years and have zero living skills. A class like this could genuinely help someone stay housed who might otherwise lose their housing voucher and be back on the street

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    • Maven@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It genuinely seems like it could have fantastic advice. I just wish they didn’t make it so incredibly condescending.

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It is blunt, for people who can’t understand anything else.

        I used to work for a nonprof helping the homeless, ran shelters, other programs.

        Some people are traumatized, some people are a bit mentally off, some people are more so just dense, stupid, cocky assholes to whom the concepts of rules and consequences just… fundamentally do not seem to register, who also continuously and obviously lie.

        Now this was more shelter oriented, but we helped move people into new housing too.

        If you can’t handle shelter rules, as in, you consistently violate them, we were a lot less eager to help those people into housing, because they can’t follow rules, and part of what we are supposed to be doing on our end is sending over people who can and will.

        Also, trust me, if you’ve ever been homeless, you will almost certainly develop a bit thicker skin than being offended by slightly impolite and blunt phrasing on a piece of paper, you will be dealing with a lot more serious shit than that basicslly all of the time, a lot more, extremely blunt and rude people than that, basically all the time.

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      • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I served on the board of a Section 8 housing authority for a number of years.

        You would be amazed at the number of people who don’t understand that leases are legally binding contracts and there are actual, enforceable consequences for violating the conditions of it.

        “You guys can’t evict me.”

        “Uhhh, yeah, we can. It just so happens that hording 30 cats in your house and letting them soak every inch of the place with piss is a violation of the terms of your lease.”

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      • frog@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t rent and it got me curious…

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      • wulrus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But if it’s voluntary, it’s not smart to sound like “you are an idiot and I don’t like you”. Especially people with mental or legal problems might avoid a situation where they are being confronted about their faults.

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    • charonn0@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, I worked in a few affordable housing sites and the OP looks like something the on-site social workers cooked up.

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  • ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m a millennial and I hate the verb “adulting” more every time I hear it.

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    • magnetosphere@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It was funny at first, but I won’t miss it if it disappears like other slang has.

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    • TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m Gen Y, and I hate the term Millennial more every time that I hear it.

      Gen X --> Gen Y --> Gen Z --> Gen Alpha

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      • ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The only real difference is that millenial has a stigma that Gen Y doesn’t have.

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  • Echolynx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You say that, but…

    I just got an email from my building saying that someone has been smoking weed in the hallways and in apartments (with shared HVAC); it reeks.

    The first floor is a daycare center for kids with special needs.

    I guess some people really need to be told that these things are not okay.

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    • Aljernon@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When I smoked, I lived in a house that the family owned and still never did it inside

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      • Echolynx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It just seems like the considerate thing, but what do I know.

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My bad, that’s probably me. I can try blowing it out a different window.

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  • neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t think the people who are likely to become evicted due to poor decisions on their part, would be interested in taking a class in how not to become evicted.

    This Venn diagram has no overlap.

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I suspect it’s an apt building that is quick to evict - when people plead ignorance to the rules “well you should have attended the FREE LEASE VIOLATIONS TRAINING DUH!”

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    • OldChicoAle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Doing anything > doing something. Not saying I agree

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  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That seems fairly reasonable. No one should have to put up with noisy neighbours stomping around all night or throwing house parties packing like sardines into overcrowded flats like it’s a bus in India or constantly emitted smells of dogshit, weed and asian food or be harassed for no reason or feel unsafe or otherwise disrupted in their own home or the surrounding infrastructure that they need to use as part of daily life like exits/entrances/walkways etc.

    It’s called the social contract.

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    • FishFace@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      dogshit, weed and asian food

      one of these is not like the other…

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah you’re right one of them is a smell some people can somehow stand because they live in it and it doesn’t make it any more appropriate to emit

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    • Maven@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The advice given isnt the issue. Its the attitude its all spoken in…

      Stuff like “Free (unlike your late fee that you keep racking up)” for example

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I like the tone actually. Hate landlords and yeah it’s a bit nasty when you think of the social dynamics but honestly sometimes you just have to reach people, because the kinds of people who become an issue also don’t tend to read the dry legal document that is their rental agreement, I guarantee you.

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      • magnetosphere@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It reads like an attempt at joviality that comes off as condescending. College students see this shit all the time.

        I’m an old fart. I know better than to try to be hip. I’m not, and never have been. I get along just fine.

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      • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Who cares. You softer than butter?

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      asian food

      god forbid people season their fucking food. all foodstuffs must be boiled until grey and served with ketchup right?

      jfc

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Most food is seasoned.

        Most food doesn’t stink half as much.

        I’m not saying Asian food is bad.

        I’m not saying don’t eat it.

        What I’m saying is: be mindful of others and don’t impose smells on unsuspecting people who are unfortunate enough to be there.

        You wear deodorant, don’t you? Because you don’t want others to know you are sweaty, and you wouldn’t want to smell others’ sweat, would you? So you mask BO with deodorant. Especially if you’re particularly sweaty, such as after work or a workout.

        So why not do so for extraordinarily stinky food?

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What the fuck is your problem with Asian food?

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      • Zexks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Go microwave some squid at you office and see how well that goes down.

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    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Asian food. Oh, so you’re racist?

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    • ryedaft@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Huh? Why the fuck would I care whether my neighbor includes a cousin? If the cousin is paying to stay there then I can see some legal issues but why would this have anything to do with me?

      The rest I agree with. Don’t want people bothering me.

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      • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There’s no problem if the cousin is on the lease. That’s the point.

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      • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The problem is only when the place is made for one person, e.g. a studio, and there is one official resident, but actually more unofficial residents that are on-paper guests, but de-facto stay there, and as such generate disruptive noise to the neighbours or overload some shared facilities.

        The “cousin” example is just hyperbole for emphasis.

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      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You wouldn’t care, but their landlord would. Not sure why you brought up the cousin when the post you replied to didn’t mention it.

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    • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Very few people have actually read the social contract, and fewer still have signed it.

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  • Maven@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This feels incredibly targeted to me… one of the residents must be a pit bull owner with a deadbeat cousin and some really good Tuesday nights.

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    • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think those are just the most common things people get evicted for or complained about

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  • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I see no issues with this. It’s good to know the rules and your rights, and other useful info.

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  • U7826391786239@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    the “adulting is hard” bit makes it look like a complex that’s nearby a university. having had friends in similar living situations, i can tell you: over-privileged college kids in their first not-mommy&daddys-house residence can be absolutely out of fucking control

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  • unknown1234_5@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    its probably helpful for the people it describes. not everyone understands how lease agreements work, even in the basic way the flyer talks about.

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    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or even acting like a human being, by the sounds of things.

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  • LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    All of a sudden I can see, more clearly, how “landlord” is a form of controlling the poor, like low wages is, it’s not just an imbalance in the current system where they’ve accidentally made the system entirely too heavy with investors and not rebalanced the system to be fair, that’s no accident. It’s a system and purposeful tool of oppression. They aren’t going to make housing more affordable or do anything about the fact “landlords” (landlords, corporations, Airbnb, owning houses) hold too much power. That’s by design. Capitalism creates slavery in insidious ways, until suddenly it’s not insidious, but by then it’s too late.

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    • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You got that from this post?

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      • LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This and a few other key pieces floating around. History, capitalisms usual trajectory, current happenings. The fact that it’s so bad and no politicians are doing anything, but like multiple places in the world. The levels of fascism popping up everywhere. Capitalism is a pyramid scheme where the people at the top want exponential growth, with a finite amount they can take from. The genocides going on, are to increase profits and control world shipping corridors. If they take all of our land, they have the majority of the populous in the world, as a slave work force, we would work just to pay them for the roof over our heads. The rules around renting are getting so extreme, and nothing is being done about regulating this, to protect the renters rights. Without renters, the house they live in falls into rot, and they go out of business overnight. But renters aren’t treated like the customer, we’re gaslight into believing renters are subservient to landlords and landlords are doing renters a favor (by letting them pay off the landlords property, and or lining their pockets) the trajectory we’re currently on, and the pace at which the rules and laws are becoming a tighter noose around the renters neck, tells me it’s getting a lot worse, very fast. I don’t know, now I’m rambling. I’m tired. I don’t even know if I’m making sense right now.

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    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t think capitalists think much beyond “I need more money and I don’t give a shit about anything else”. Sure, some are super fucking competent and scary as shit, but most are Zuckerbergs, Musks, and Bezos. Incompetent weirdos that managed to sit their ass on a somewhat stable asset and had others do all the labor for them.

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      • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But the system itself is doing thus, more than the individual pieces

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  • simplejack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ma take a wild guess - is this being posted in a college town? Because a lot of that looks like shit you would’ve needed to tell me when I was 19.

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    • Maven@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not really? The city over is a college town though so maybe its just close enough for osmosis to happen

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      • simplejack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, that might be what’s happening. I live in the city next to a university, and there are a lot of students in certain apartment complexes here. Moreover, that was also the case where I lived when I was in college. The adjacent cities had lots of students.

        The owners of this building might also be actively advertising their apartments to students.

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    • magnetosphere@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That was my first guess, too, but apparently not. Hmm.

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  • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Gotta love renting. Help a friend get back on their feet for a bit after life throws them through the wringer?

    Too bad, so sad, your turn in the wringer.

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    • simplejack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I wonder if this is being posted around student housing.

      Given the language, adulting 101 talk, and the mention of a “community room,” this feels like it’s aimed at 18 year olds in student housing, or a city that revolves around a university.

      Having people not on lease crash in student housing can lead to a lot of frustration for students using shared spaces.

      I had some roommates have messy friends “crash” in their rooms for extended periods of time, and it ment that I had to effectively deal with a new shitty roommate that I didn’t sign up for. Not an uncommon thing.

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    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ok so what prevents everyone in the apartment doing this with a “cousin”. If you’re stuffing more people into the building then costs go up. Maintenance isn’t free.

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      • simplejack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Looks like it might be a building that has students in it. A lot of us probably had that college roommate that decided that their high school friend or the new person they were dating was going to visit and never leave.

        They didn’t need sanctuary, they just had zero boundaries and respect for the other people in the home. And young people aren’t always the best at resolving those situations with candor, so they fester.

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      • midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Compared to rent, maintenance is basically free, typically about 1-2%. If we think that cost would double, for some reason, by adding another person, it still wouldn’t be that much. But it’s ridiculous to think that would even be the case, given that a sizeable portion of maintenance is not related to tenants at all.

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      • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Or 11 cousins, in a 2 person studio?

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  • Phegan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Landlords are leeches.

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    • Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Landlords are just people who own property? Regular average people. Now… we can deduce that since most people kinda suck, on average, most landlords will kinda suck on average. But also, there are very kind and understanding landlords too. That said, they are like real people in the sense that they respond to how they are treated.

      Treat’em like an asshole and they will probably oblige you. Treat someone pleasantly and with respect, you’ll probably be doing yourself a favor.

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  • pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sounds cool. Pretty thoughtful

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  • flandish@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    i know this is ugh but irl my neighbors run a small engine repair shop with, no joke, 10 snowblowers in the alley between our houses. they rent. i own. i politely remind them their engines are, in this regard, mere feet away from my living room or bedroom depending on time of day. i dont know what to do other than that. (nothing i can do an im ok with that just ranting) they are otherwise kind, social, fine people. its just randomly “brrrrraaaaap” while im sleeping early due to a cold, or just a cozy saturday. sigh.

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  • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Have you ever turning up on a Tuesday like it’s a YoungBoy concert in your living room?

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  • HikingVet@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sounds like a class action lawsuit.

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  • halvar@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    …what?

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  • udon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I thought this is a useful campaign until I reached the row about Karen. Don’t be a snitch.

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    • Atkat@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No, the Karen in that scenario is the implied snitch. That line is saying something like, “are you a young POC just minding your own fucking business in your apartment when you keep catching that damn white lady sticking her head around the balcony divider to peer into your place and listen to your conversations, trying to catch you doing something wrong? We’ll tell you what your rights to privacy are”

      If you knew that’s what it meant and you were actually saying don’t snitch on the racist white lady for spying or her Black neighbors or whatever though…well we just won’t ever be friends I guess.

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      • Redfox8@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I took it as turning the discussion around - I.e. what to do if your neighbour behaves as above? If so, it sounds like a good way to get people to think about respectful behaviour.

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