It’s just that I kinda like being conscious…
Fear not, and enjoy this mere interlude to its fullest!
Submitted 5 months ago by Godric@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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bebabalula@feddit.dk 5 months ago
IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 5 months ago
[deleted]Wav_function@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You’re still conscious during sleep you just don’t remember most of it.
Valmond@lemmy.world 5 months ago
SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Because, now that i aquired conciusness, i dont want to lose it. i dont want to re experience nothingness. ffs id rather suffer for eternity than not live at all
Wav_function@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You didn’t acquire consciousness, you acquired a human life.
smiletolerantly@awful.systems 5 months ago
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Without a brain and no small amount of power (20% of your calorie count at rest on average, less when jogging, more when doing the calculus) the age of the universe goes by instantly. You don’t track time.
You also don’t track heat or pain, or memories good or bad. You don’t contemplate your trials and tribulations. You could be in the core of the sun at over a million degrees Celsius and not feel a thing or care how you got there.
The universe has been around for thirteen billion years, and will be around for even longer, and we only get this moment. And then it’s gone.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
It’s not the death part that scares me. It’s the transition between living and dead that’s going to suck.
But then I had a really terrible November 2024 and am still suffering a high-suicidality psychotic break, so my opinion might be biased.
AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Well for what it’s worth I’m glad you’re still around to contribute to the conversation :)
Ronami@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Fear not, the dark, my friend. And let the feast begin.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 months ago
A feast in the dark? Ehhh… :/
Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 months ago
Put a light on. Less messy.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Nothingless void is as believable as afterlife. From scientific point of view neither make sense, it’s like we’re giving ourseleves some metaphysical distinctiveness from the rest of universe but are merely physical bodies according to our scientific knowledge. And according to that we precisely know what’s after death: we rot in grave, and that’s sit. But that answer is not satisfying for us, because of our consciousness.
Rothe@piefed.social 5 months ago
The first part of your comment is contradicting the last part of it.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 months ago
How exactly? I don’t see it.
uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 5 months ago
Nothingness void is just another phrase for "irreversible loss of consciousness. Which is orders of magnitudes more believable than afterlife.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 months ago
But why call it void if there’s no void at all? Or nothingness. There’s only void and nothingness when universe ends (if that theory is true of course). People still think about it as a state of our consciousness, when there is no really any ‘state’ after we die. It’s like
NULLvsUNDEFINEDin programming, or at least I see this that way.
chunes@lemmy.world 5 months ago
seems much more likely that someone new will be born after I die and experience life.
Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 months ago
Even these days?
I admire your optimism. ;D
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Tbf nobody has ever experienced either because experience is exclusive to being alive and conscious
Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 months ago
That’s not my experience.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
If you had an experience at all then you weren’t dead
ashenone@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
So like the universe is expanding and shit in every direction. Eventually the universe will hit its maximum point of expanse and start shrinking in every direction until it has shrunk down to its point of maximum density. Then boom a big bang and the universe starts again. We’ll be back eventually. Maybe not in this universe or the next but eventually over the course of forever we’ll be back.
fading_person@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
But would a rearrangement of our atoms into identical beings be the same person as us? Maybe it would be just different consciousnesses having the same experiences, and we would never be back.
Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
i think the theory is that at some point it would be exactly the same
but i think this is not like backed up by anything really, and mostly a thought experiment.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The After is not what we fear. It is the pain of the transition
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Having grown up with the concept of an eternal hell hammered into my head since day 1, I spent many years fearing the after much more than the transition.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ah well, Religion does that for you.
lemmyknow@lemmy.today 5 months ago
Idk, sounds kinda scary. Idk what it was like before, because I lacked consciousness to experience it. And the idea that it all ends, back to nothingness forever. We live a few years. Pretty much nothing, if we consider the forever before, and the forever after our existence.
It’s something I recall fearing as a kid, due to the scary unknown. Glad to have enjoyed a decade of bliss. Too bad the fear has come back to haunt me. It’s not constant, though. Sometimes it comes, outta nowhere. Real strong. Not fun. But I don’t live day to day in fear.
blargh513@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
The thing is, once youre dead, there won’t be consciousness, you will not have any perception of a void, you won’t know anything because you will not be.
Marc Maron put it into good perspective. He was hiking in the hills and passed out. He noted that he could very well have been dead, and that would have been that.
You can’t be afraid when you dont exist and you will not be aware of anything.
lemmyknow@lemmy.today 5 months ago
That’s precisely the scary part. A nothingness, for all of eternity. It ends, never to continue. I do not know what it is like. Just… not seeing. Not hearing. None of the senses, and no thoughts either. No consciousness.
I wouldn’t be scared after dead, cuz I’dn’t have the consciousness for that. However, being alive, I can. I can fear the eternal nothingness of inexistence
I think this may or may not have some connection to a post from that monkey in the brain guy who also has a TED Talk (Tim Something?). I recall seeing a post of his about life or something. Talked about how short our lives are in the grand scheme of things. Had even an image with days or weeks or months of life, like a progress bar
On the other hand, reading that people actually close to death don’t worry as much as people imagining being close to death, iirc, may have had a positive impact in my fear. Though I recalln’t well
Redex68@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I don’t believe in God nor am I religious, but consciousness just feels so fucking weird man. Everything in the world can be explained through science and physics, cause and effect, hell even our brains and actions are just a chain of atoms interacting. But consciousness just feels so out of place. Why am I? Why am I even aware of my own existence? Why has a set of atoms resulted in my non-material consciousness? It feels so out of place. Why isn’t it just a bunch of atoms bumping into eachother, why am I capable of feeling and thinking?
jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
The thing is, once youre dead, there won’t be consciousness, you will not have any perception of a void, you won’t know anything because you will not be
Do we really know this though?
What if upon death we exit the simulation?
Sometimes I think non-sim me decided to play life on hard mode. I’d kind of like to kick his ass for that. But then I realize he is me.
webp@mander.xyz 5 months ago
But will I wake back up before the sun destroys our universe?
TheFunkyMonk@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Fact’s
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
🤯 😭
ngdev@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
nothingless
akakevbot@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
The key is to accept that the end of consciousness is a feature of existence, and not a bug.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Cope harder meatbag
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 months ago
We live and we die, but we don’t start or stop existing. Everything that is us is still here. And in time, what was us becomes something new and different.
The miracle of life is a rare and magical opportunity for a bit of ourselves to direct our own future. And, I believe, the horror of death is in that return to idleness and loss of control. We don’t want to return to the sidelines. We want to keep playing the game.
ethaver@kbin.earth 5 months ago
apparently I literally tried to strangle myself on my umbilical cord in the womb but my take on that was that I knew what was coming.
Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 months ago
Bought the ticket. Take the ride. Came here with purpose, despite the trepidation.
lemmyknow@lemmy.today 5 months ago
Just like The Butterfly Effect ending we watched in class!
ethaver@kbin.earth 5 months ago
yeah my husband brought this up a few days ago actually and was talking about the movie and I was like do you remember me mentioning that I literally actually did that? 4 times around apparently!
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This is a very deep and true post for a shitpost. It’s basically when you go to sleep and don’t dream, but you don’t wake up. It’s just a black void of nothingness.
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Now I know something to compare it to.
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I have never experienced unending nothingness, only noted the nothingness after it was over
akakevbot@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
That’s a good point, though I think it’s also fair to say that you won’t experience unending nothingness after death from that perspective, either. I can see how coming to accept that the world existed before our experience began could help one confront the world will continue to exist after our experience has ended.
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
I’m looking forward to the nothingness, the first 14billion years was nice enough. It’s the time between everyday life and nothingness that worries me.
lectricleopard@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Just had a friend die of a heart attack while working in construction with his friends. Didn’t make it to the hospital.
That’s how I want to go. Just times up one day.
crank0271@lemmy.world 5 months ago
So sorry for your loss. You’re right - your friend is “fine” now. It’s the people we leave behind that can have a hard time with it.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 5 months ago
Memes like this just make me get anxious thinking about the past
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Hey, remember when Hitler invaded Poland?
Hey, remember when Trump invaded Greenland? Oh. Right. That’s called foreshadowing.
agavaa@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Because there is no coming back.
Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 months ago
Cannot step in the same river twice. Nor with the same feet.
saimen@feddit.org 5 months ago
Why are you so sure about this? Believing there is no reincarnation is just a religious dogma of Christianity or rather all abrahamitic religions and therefore deeply engraved in our culture so we don’t even consider other possibilities. Similar to how in buddhist and hinduistic cultures reincarnation is the default way of imagining life before birth and after death.
agavaa@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Sure? Christianity? Nah, atheism. I just don’t walk around believing stuff just because other people believe it. And if reincarnation is real I don’t see it as coming back, you’re a different person after all.
Rothe@piefed.social 5 months ago
Believing there is no reincarnation is just a religious dogma of Christianity
No, it is pretty much the default position until you can prove that it happens.
TheDoozer@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I don’t believe in a soul. That is definitely not religious dogma.
The idea that reincarnation is the default and one would have to be indoctrinated against it is… I would say, a very interesting position to take, if I’m being polite.
papalonian@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Believing there is no reincarnation is just a religious dogma of Christianity
I don’t know that that’s true.
We as a society don’t know what happens when we die, conscious-wise. To state “we definitely do come back” or “we definitely don’t” would be incorrect, just like saying “there’s definitely aliens” vs “there definitely are not”.
However, we can use evidence we’ve gathered over thousands of years of existence and make assumptions. Unless I’m mistaken, there’s little evidence that has been accepted by the scientific community (Western or Eastern) to support reincarnation, so to say that “we don’t come back” is a Christian dogma is a little unfair.
To be clear I don’t have a strong opinion on reincarnation. I’ve heard compelling stories that are hard to explain otherwise, but I feel like we’d have been able to gather at least some concrete data on it over the span of our existence.
Alfons@feddit.org 5 months ago
So where do the „extra“ humans come from in these religions? What I mean is the increasing number of people being alive at the same time.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
We only get one ride in this rollercoaster and half of us want to make the ride living hell for the rest of us.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Half? Try an alarming small number and they are damn good at it.
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I used to think I didn’t dream, eventually I realized that the blissful nothingness I (don’t) experience between sleeping and waking up was the dream.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Keep a dream journal, eventually you’ll start remembering them.
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Ah, I don’t believe it’s a case of not remembering.
Many nights I simply do not dream of anything at all, or at least when I wake up I have absolutely no recollection of dreaming about something.
I do also have dreams that fade after awhile as you’d expect, and have occasionally written down things I found interesting about them, but overall my dreams are an infrequent occurrence.
ChonkyLincoln@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Oh boy, sleep! That’s where I’m a Viking!
essell@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Because now I know what I’d be missing.
Times like that, we experience it in one direction only
ceenote@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Because I forgot what it was like
snooggums@piefed.world 5 months ago
Can't forget something that doesn't exist.
Ste41th@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
It did but you wasn’t aware of it at the time
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 months ago
sunbytes@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Because if I die I’ll miss the rest of the Kingkiller Chronicles.
They will surely release any day now.
Godric@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Any day now, just like winds of winter. Just hold on…
Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 months ago
And the next Boards of Canada album.