Yes, you can store data on a bird — enthusiast converts PNG to bird-shaped waveform, teaches young starling to recall file at up to 2MB/s

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• ISOmorph@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  In before EU genocides all starlings because you can’t put backdoors in them to scan for CSAM.

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  • PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, technically it has a built in backdoor…

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    • hoch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Please do not the bird

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    • ToastedRavioli@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      More of a front and back door, if my understanding of a cloaca is correct

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    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People are making crude jokes but the truth is birds do have a back door it is whatever food they find tastiest. Birds are easily bribable like humans or dogs.

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  • Shortstack@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you promise? All i want for Christmas is for starlings to fuck right off

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    • Sxan@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We're more likely to fuck ourselves right off, before starlings do. Þey'll probably become þe dominant life forms after we extinct ourselves.

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    • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Starlings are cooler than you, though.

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• Korkki@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Imagine the possibilities for piracy and secure messaging (provided that the birds don’t snitch on you).

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  • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you take control of enough birdhouses you can launch DDoS attacks.

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    • toppy@lemy.lol ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah. This could be in a plot in one of the episodes of the simpsons.

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  • lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The image 💀

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  • Maeve@kbin.earth ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I was thinking about wind talkers becoming bird singers.

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• khannie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  2MB/s / 16Mbps is enough for 4K HEVC video and audio. In theory you could encode a full movie with enough starlings.

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  • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And they say physical media is dead!

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    • Tikiporch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The average lifespan of a starling is usually between two and five years.

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  • faythofdragons@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A million monkeys on typewriters is old news. Now we’re gonna teach a million starlings to play back the entire bee movie.

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  • twice_hatch@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I like Benn Jordan a lot but I really doubt a bird can sing 2 MB / s. I saw the spectrogram and it looked pretty fuzzy

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  • wolfrasin@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You could find out which frame of the movie starlings like the best

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  • MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A murmuration could do it

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• RunJun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Reducing Benn Jordan down to just “enthusiast” is wild.

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  • Psaldorn@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Musician/Wizard/Activist

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  • scarilog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The breadth of capability this guy has is insane to me. Almost every time I watch one of his videos I find that he’s managed to basically gain a new field of expertise. It’s really impressive.

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• Vespair@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We’re finally getting tweets back

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• Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Quick, someone teach it the soundtrack to Doom

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Can you run Doom on it tho?

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    • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Asking the REAL question

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    • PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’d have to zip six birds together to get Plutonia on it.

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  • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you need five starlings to sing a pentagram?

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  • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The Trent Reznor version please.

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• YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hear me out! Bird factor authentication!

  Please honk your seagull to unlock your ed25519-so ssh key

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  • HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve been honking my seagull all morning, until my wife came in and caught me…

    Now what do I do?

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    • ghterve@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ask her to join you?

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• muzzle@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is a whole new twist over RFC 1149: IP over Avian Carriers

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• rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Some people will use anything but cloud storage

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  • thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But. I mean. The data COULD reach the clouds I mean… Bird…

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  • captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s cloud storage and terrestrial storage. And it’s multi cloud. It’s the ultimate cloud hybrid!

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• Gerudo@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But, birds aren’t real.

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  • gedaliyah@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This only seems to support the theory

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  • Tryenjer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There are only flying dinosaurs.

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  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lol ok there might be no real birds left but they definitely exist in the fossil record, it was likely the inventions of trains that drove birds to the next highest dimension (which isn’t real, hence birds were real but now they are not).

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• pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well of course NSA’s spy device can store information. We’ve known this for decades

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• gozz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not to be a wet blanket, but every time this comes up I get annoyed by some factual inaccuracies in the articles about this. It is not digital! He drew an image on a computer, but converted it to an analogue spectrogram to store on the bird. That’s neat as hell, but it’s not digital. The image that he got back was slightly corrupted.

  Now I would be fascinated to see a follow-up seeing if you can actually modulate a digital signal and have is survive a round trip through the bird bit-for-bit accurate. I suspect in reality it would be much lower data rate, but definitely not nothing!

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  • CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    By your definition nothing can be digital since the world is analog. Even the bits in your CPU are voltages in transistors. As such, every real life signal can be distorted.

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    • Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The point with digital transfers is that you round it back to either 0 or 1, hoping that no bits are distorted enough to have any loss at all.

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  • abruptly8951@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Hmm, not so sure. He produced a digital signal, who’s spectrogram happened to be an image, and then played that digital signal to a bird. Dunno if a analogue spectrogram really even makes sense as a concept. The only analogue part of the chain would be the birds vocalisations, right?

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    • gozz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The whole sequence is:

      • Digitally synthesized spectrogram (lossless)
      • Played through a DAC and speaker to produce an analogue signal (lossy)
      • Heard by the bird (analogue, lossy)
      • Reproduced by the bird (analogue, lossy)
      • Captured by an ADC as a digital audio signal (lossy)
      • Spectrum-analysed to observe a similar (but corrupted) reproduction of the shape in the PNG

      To be transferring digital information, we would instead need to modulate and demodulate the digital signal (exactly like an old modem) so that the analogue corruption does not affect the digital signal:

      • Image file (lossless)
      • Bit stream (lossless)
      • Analogue modulation of bit stream played through DAC (lossy)
      • Heard by the bird (lossy)
      • Reproduced by the bird (lossy)
      • Demodulated to recover exact bit stream despite distortion (lossless,)
      • Decode bit stream to recover original image file, bit-for-bit perfect

      I extremely doubt that this bird is capable of 2MB/s. For reference that would make it 280+ times fast than dialup, and barely slower than ADSL. This setup is basically just using the bird instead of a telephone line.

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    • Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The sound from the speakers he must have used was also “analog”. Sound - defined as a pressure wave through a medium - can’t be digital. Though the difference between analog and digital kinda loses meaning in cases like this.

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• ScrotusMaximus@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  good to see there are new developments in the IP Over Avian Carrier space

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  • Squirrelanna@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Though this proprietary implementation of cloud storage for IPoAC is very innovative, it’s really only useful for enthusiasts of the protocol and it comes with some security concerns. Writing data to the storage is inconsistent and requires a lot of effort on the uploader’s part. And if you do manage to get the data to write properly, there’s no guarantee retrieving the data will be lossless.

    The most worrying part for me, however, is that there’s no guarantee that the data can be removed from the cloud without obliterating the server it’s stored on or waiting for the device to degrade over time. Until these are addressed I don’t think we’ll see widespread adaptation.

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• xc2215x@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Data on a bird ? This will convince people about birds being drones more now.

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• salty_chief@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Birds are the OG text device. Tie a little note and send them on their way.

  One famous example is Cher Ami, a pigeon who delivered a message that saved a group of surrounded American soldiers during WW

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  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    WW what? Which WW? I HAVE to know!

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    • toynbee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thus far, there mainly seem to be two options.

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• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Me, everytime I see a bird:

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    better than me:
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• Cocopanda@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Birds are totally organic organisms. Rightttttt. BIRDS ARENT REAL!!!

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  • whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re just covering up the truth of the time cube

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• Rakonat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Inb4 Doom can now run on birds.

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  • Beero@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Latency tho…

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• Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Only a matter of time befor megacorps put ads and a subscription service on bird calls, now. 😫

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• magikmw@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The video is by Benn Jordan, I wholeheartedly recommend this video and entire channel. Guy is a world treasure.

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• Hatsune_Miku@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  back to carrier pigeons?

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  • destroyer@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    tweet tweet

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• WindyRebel@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What if I have bird blindness and I try and teach it to a duck?

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  • markstos@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ducks? That’s quackery.

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• InvalidName2@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  While it sounds great in practice, I find it suspicious that they never mention the the final bill.

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• crystalmerchant@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  B I R D S A R E N T R E A L

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• SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  ?Fun? fact: In a steampunk world, birds would serve as CPUs. America experimented with using pigeons for bomb guidance. As it turned out, three birds pecking at an image had pretty good accuracy. They ultimately lost out to silicon, due to the size, maintenance, and training time.

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• biofaust@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I want this to be the next reveal in a movie or TV series, in the same fashion as the one of the Navajo “backing up” the Smoking Man’s magnetic tape in The X-Files.

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• orenj@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How yseful would this have been back at the dawn of computation, I wonder?

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• Goretantath@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So a moving target of data you cant reliably recall and might get shot by someone looking for food. At least its neat though.

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• altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I got the error correction baseball bat!

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• Joeyowlhouse@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I heard the Falcon service is the fastest.

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