Again, who’s recreating Twitter screenshots really badly, and why? There’s a person on Reddit with like five alts who’s been spamming these posts, and I’m so confused by it.
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anas@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 46 minutes ago
Bots building histories.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
The entire picture looks completely fake like somebody tried to create a twitter screenshot from scratch in paint.
Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 30 minutes ago
You should be able to do a near perfect job in any image editor. They make kits that have all the assets already built.
theneverfox@pawb.social 8 hours ago
I hate the mansplaining accusation, especially in this context
Fucking let ideas compete. Call him out for being pedantic. If you have to bring gender into nearly any conversation about science, you’ve already lost
Just shame them with better science
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 24 minutes ago
Is there a better term for it?
I feel like mansplaining as a word is similar to feminism as a word. It has assumption of gender rooted into it but its gone past that at this point.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 hours ago
The mansplaining thing in this context is more about an unfounded assumption of ignorance in the other party. Usually one would assume an astronaut to know basic thermodynamics, but the tweet's phrasing implies the other other person doesn't. It's less "you're wrong" and more "why do you think she doesn't know that."
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
A lot more people than that astronaut are going to see the post reply, though. A lot of them probably haven’t taken a thermodynamics lesson.
plyth@feddit.org 5 hours ago
unfounded assumption of ignorance in the other party
That’s the joke. Haha, stupid astronaut, you are supposed to know.
It’s obviously too early to make that joke with an astronautess.
giantripdrop@piefed.social 8 hours ago
I just saw a person in a suit, the. read the "mansplaining" comment, the. went back and saw the posters name.
It feels so forced or I am just oblivious. I thought the response was an asshole being an "acktuallllllly" response.
Gladaed@feddit.org 5 hours ago
It’s Kev M.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
Ken M has smooth skin
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
“Spontaneous” doesn’t mean what you think it means.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
It doesn’t take a lack of understanding of the word to arrive at the guy’s conclusion. It just takes an autistic reading of the word “water”. Water WILL boil in those conditions. Just like we don’t say water “spontaneously” boils when heated up in a kettle even though it’s the exact same thing happening.
So in the abstract, the guy is correct. Though, there is also a bottle of water in the picture, and when discussing which specific water will boil, it’s a guessing game, hence “spontaneous”. “Spontaneous” totally works for discussing the water in the picture.
logicbomb@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
One of the things that “spontaneous” doesn’t mean is “without cause”. Also, the astronaut doesn’t mention the water in the picture. She mentions water generally.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I hope she brought enough tampons
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
For those who don’t get the joke:
Sally Ride, first female NASA astronaut to go to space: "I remember the engineers trying to decide how many tampons should fly on a one-week flight; they asked, “Is 100 the right number?”
“No. That would not be the right number.”
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I mean, the 10 ish day long mission that recently took 9 months happened, actually with a woman on board. If you said “100 is too much lol” and opted for 10, you’d be laughing out the other side of your face when you started having to improvise sanitation supplies after month three.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Thanks. A little surprised by the current proportion of people that didn’t understood that reference.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
To be fair, I have absolutely no idea how many tampons a woman would need either, although 10 per day seems high.
Gladaed@feddit.org 5 hours ago
It’s a pedantic take that makes sense and is fun. It relies on spontaneous having multiple meanings.
A spontaneous person randomly does weird things. A spontaneous occurring change happens without the environment promoting it.
There is no man’s planning. This is willful ignorance to enable a joke.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I like to imagine replies are more often for future readers than for the OP.
Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 7 hours ago
And also it’s quite spontaneous. It’s not like you have to thump it to start it boiling. When the pressure gets to the right mark, it just starts.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
Are all image links on Lemmy.zip blocked by cloudflare?
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
I wanted to say I have no problems. Then I remembered I’m on Lemmy.zip and this is maybe why.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 5 hours ago
I’m having issues with the proxied ones (451 Unavailable for legal reasons). Luckily you can use Redirector or similar to un-proxy them automatically.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
I’m using a web app on an iPhone. Not sure that will work for me.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Pretty much the definition of spontaneous if you ask me.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Eh, it definitely has a cause. A known one. The fact water will boil isn’t spontaneous. “Spontaneous” still works for the sole reason which specific molecules is nigh impossible to predict.
So, who is correct depends entirely on the mental framing of what someone thinks of when they read “water”.
This post isn’t showcasing mansplaining. It’s showcasing pedantry.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
“Spontaneous” is actually the correct word to use here, using its definition in statistical mechanics.
Here’s an example: …pressbooks.tru.ca/…/5-6/
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Just like this comment!
Donkter@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Spontaneous doesn’t mean “happens suddenly without explanation” what are you on about?
lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Everything has a cause.
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Nothing to do with the physical definition of spontaneity. Spontaneity of a process just means that the ∆G is negative or total energy of the system is lower after the process, and additional energy isn’t required for the process to be thermodynamically allowed.
Also unrelated, but it is fully impossible to predict, since in trying to predict it well enough you reach quantum scales where everything is probabilistic. That doesn’t at all mean everything is spontaneous.
Nope, the first person is strictly correct and the second is strictly incorrect, as described above.
Nope, exactly spontaneous. You could even forget about water entirely and model this just as a bunch of nuclei and electrons in a box and derive that the lowest energy state has them being in a gas of atoms, and the initial state doesn’t, which is enough to demonstrate by our earlier statements that boiling is spontaneous.
This is “not even wrong” territory.
It absolutely is. We will define mansplaining here as the confidently correct dismissal of statements of women by men where we suspect that the genders of the participants may play a role.
The first part has been demonstrated above. It is also reasonable to assume the second given that we observe this happening to women at a far greater frequency than to men. Although, like with atoms, we cannot prove that this individual instance is a direct result, it is consistent with the probabilistic data and we would need additional evidence to conclude that this particular guy just goes around wrongly correcting everyone equally.
Once again, not remotely.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 hours ago
It’s not an external cause. It boils on its own, because the molecules don’t want to be close together.
oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 hours ago
While you are technically correct, you also misunderstand who the target audience is and what language is required to actually make people understand.
When speaking to a normal person you don’t want to slap random jargon and care too much about precise definitions. So in that context spontaneous is a great word to describe what is happening. People without deep backgrounds in the field will not understand technical jargon and it will only make them not pay attention.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 hours ago
I'd still say it's spontaneous because when you reduce pressure you're removing a factor rather than adding one. It's like saying "when you compress a spring and then remove the compression force, it will spontaneously return to its previous length." Water vapor can be seen as water's "natural" state when thero no pressure forcing it to be a liquid. Also saying "simple thermo" to an astronaut is definitely mansplaining, because it implies the other person doesn't know that simple thermo.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
Hahaha, under that definition not spontaneous can ever occur
BussyGyatt@feddit.org 8 hours ago
no
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
You should be an astronaut
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
In addition to what MotoAsh said, it also has a definite external influence and a well defined force acting upon it. It boiled because it underwent a change in pressure.
feannag@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Without apparent external influence. Relative pressure is something humans have a hard time judging. As well as it just exists everyone in that zone vice something easy to perceive, like a fire under a pot boiling water.