Didn’t notice it was a woman at first, but isn’t it an appeal to authority? The fact that someone is an astronaut doesn’t mean they can’t also be a dumb fuck. Just look at Russians - Oleg Artemyev, Tereshkova, Rogozin. I’m not familiar with NASA astronauts but surely some of them were also complete idiots as well?
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drath@lemmy.world 7 months ago
0x0@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
The fact that someone is an astronaut doesn’t mean they can’t also be a dumb fuck. Just look at Russians
Did they teach you that in school? The same school where they taught you Sally Ride was the first woman in space?
I’d say being an astronaut pretty much negates being dumb as fuck, especially in the early days.
drath@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Not sure I get your point. I wasn’t implying that all the Russian cosmonauts are dumb fucks, just that the only cases I’m familiar with all being Russians.
Valmond@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Germany sent the first rocket out in space.
Valmond@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The guy is clearly “mansplaining” though.
Is there a gender neutral version of mansplaining?
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
splaining?
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
This post made me realize mansplaining can happen to anyone.
jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk 7 months ago
Themsplaining?
teslasaur@lemmy.world 7 months ago
But is he wrong?
backgroundcow@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Spontaneous boiling is the scientifically correct term, so, yes, he is wrong for correcting her.
ronigami@lemmy.world 7 months ago
People say the same thing to other men. Is it mansplaining then too?
cmhe@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Yeah, it is. The act of mansplaining isn’t gender specific. It is about trying to raise someone’s status above someone else by nitpicking.
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 7 months ago
The very definition says the opposite. But even if it was the case, it should NOT be used like this becaue it is specifically targeting men, which would be sexist. Being the very thing it meant to destroy.
ronigami@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The fact that the boiling is not spontaneous is not obvious especially on account of how it’s not true. So that definition is going to need some tweaking. And anyway I think it’s much more likely that the person just didn’t notice they were replying to an astronaut than that they thought they could elevate their status. They were trying to share their (incorrect) knowledge.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Yeah, Men do it to each other all the time too. Though the sociological context makes it much less difficult to manage, as there isn’t the cultural tendency to dismiss other men when they imply they have an understanding of a field that is perceived as typically male-exclusive (hard sciences, mechanics, etc.). It’s a term to describe a complicated and fairly important topic that has unfortunately become a buzzword for people to reject because it’s been characterized as criticism based on a fundamental aspect of a group (being male) and not as it’s intended, as a comment on a specific person’s behavior.
ronigami@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It also has an anti-intellectual aspect to it. People like to explain things, that’s sort of the whole idea behind science, is to be able to do that. Sometimes people try to explain things and they’re wrong. And that’s okay, it’s part of the process of science. Further, the notes of patronization are subjective and not everyone would agree they’re present here.
So to automatically label things like this as “mansplaining” makes a few unfair assumptions.
firewyre@lemmy.world 7 months ago
He’s right tho, so…?
BussyCat@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It says in textbooks that in a vacuum water will spontaneously boil so arguing that it’s not spontaneous is wrong.
It happens as pressure decreases but unlike conventional boiling where you can see nucleate boiling it can instead happen all at once without you adding heat to the system
Most importantly he’s trying to argue semantics with a person who is much smarter than him and then ends it with a condescending “simple thermo”.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You should look up the definition of boiling.
BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Also, spontaneity is fairly vague. At best he’s just arguing semantics
Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Large airplane flies overhead.
BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Wouldn’t say it flies. It just glides because a giant threw it
pcalau12i@lemmygrad.ml 7 months ago
People love to be pedantic as an “own” because they think it makes them look smart. And a lot of the times it actually works / is rewarded.
Zerush@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
- Water in space boils, freezes or evaporates?
- Yes
OozingPositron@feddit.cl 7 months ago
Triple point moment.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 7 months ago
Water is a triple threat in space?
jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
Are all image links on Lemmy.zip blocked by cloudflare?
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 7 months ago
It happens sometimes for me too, short periods only tho (last few months).
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
I wanted to say I have no problems. Then I remembered I’m on Lemmy.zip and this is maybe why.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 7 months ago
I’m having issues with the proxied ones (451 Unavailable for legal reasons). Luckily you can use Redirector or similar to un-proxy them automatically.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
I’m using a web app on an iPhone. Not sure that will work for me.
Gladaed@feddit.org 7 months ago
It’s a pedantic take that makes sense and is fun. It relies on spontaneous having multiple meanings.
A spontaneous person randomly does weird things. A spontaneous occurring change happens without the environment promoting it.
There is no man’s planning. This is willful ignorance to enable a joke.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I like to imagine replies are more often for future readers than for the OP.
anas@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Again, who’s recreating Twitter screenshots really badly, and why? There’s a person on Reddit with like five alts who’s been spamming these posts, and I’m so confused by it.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 months ago
I’m pretty sure its crafted rage bait to get women angry at men and men angry at women. Its constant on reddit. The conversion is probably a decade old at this point if its even real in the first place.
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 7 months ago
this shit looks like ms paint
Lemmisaur@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
This post literally has the watermark of the account that creates/posts these. Other people or bots are reposting them, sure, but they’re coming from some kind of aggregation account that has this particular style of recreating Twitter threads in a space that fits into the Instagram preference for square images.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 7 months ago
Bots building histories.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
The entire picture looks completely fake like somebody tried to create a twitter screenshot from scratch in paint.
Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 7 months ago
You should be able to do a near perfect job in any image editor. They make kits that have all the assets already built.
Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 7 months ago
And also it’s quite spontaneous. It’s not like you have to thump it to start it boiling. When the pressure gets to the right mark, it just starts.
theneverfox@pawb.social 7 months ago
I hate the mansplaining accusation, especially in this context
Fucking let ideas compete. Call him out for being pedantic. If you have to bring gender into nearly any conversation about science, you’ve already lost
Just shame them with better science
firewyre@lemmy.world 7 months ago
This!!!
ftbd@feddit.org 7 months ago
He’s not being pedantic, he’s just obviously not familiar with the vocabulary used in chemistry (although he pretends to be).
theneverfox@pawb.social 7 months ago
No he’s making a specific type of joke, but if he were wrong then say that instead
And if you want more of that type of joke, look up not ken m
Baked86@lemmy.world 7 months ago
He’s just trying to combat misinformation, the gall to accuse someone of sexism after being wrong is staggering.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Do you honestly believe that the astronaut doesn’t understand how boiling water works?
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 7 months ago
She wasn’t wrong though. It does happen spontaneously in that it is happening without apparent external cause. There is an external cause, the change in pressure, but it is not apparent. And most people are aware that water boils at low pressures at room temps. He even said it was “basic thermo”, so of course a NASA astronaut would know about this basic scientific phenomenon, as would most people.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The term “mansplaining” is not just about a man being pedantic. It is a man being pedantic or overexplaining to a woman either about something she is likely more knowledgeable on than he is or about something that is such common knowledge it should be assumed that she knows these facts as well as he does. It is a demonstration of misogyny through the assumption that you, a man, knows better than her, a woman, despite all liklihood to the contrary and yet you condescend to her anyway. It’s the arrogance and gender bias that is the problem, not the pedantry itself.
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 7 months ago
through the assumption that you, a man, knows better than her
And what’s the evidence that this happened here? You just assumed he was sexist.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
everyone knows that.
you just explained very common knowledge to people that certainly know it.
the problem is the terminology…
men and women condescendingly explain shit to people all the time. If you attach the word “man” to it then you’re being sexist.
when a man is condescending to a woman because she’s a woman, then that man is being sexist.
if you assume every time a man is being condescending to a woman they’re being sexist, then you’re sexist.
every time ANYONE makes a factual claim on the internet and it gets enough traction, someone will chime in and condescendingly explain why they’re wrong. gender is not the only factor.
….
it’s certainly terrible how men are sexist and condescending towards women so often… making a new sexist term doesn’t help that problem.
also, i’m not assuming your gender and you don’t know mine, i am merely disagreeing with you.Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
The thing I don’t like about the mansplaining accusation is it makes lots of men out to be sexist/misogynistic when they are really just pedantic twits that very well could have commented the same stupid thing to a man. But because it was to a woman someone has to accuse them of being sexist too.
Don’t get me wrong there are a lot of sexist assholes, but just assuming it to be the case off a single comment irks me.
yarr@feddit.nl 7 months ago
Did you just mansplain mansplaining!?
When will men learn to stop trying to share information?!
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 7 months ago
You got me in the first part
I hope this is sarcasm though
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Is there a better term for it?
I feel like mansplaining as a word is similar to feminism as a word. It has assumption of gender rooted into it but its gone past that at this point.
Nelots@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
I doubt people would like the word feminism being used if it inherently painted women as sexist.
Gladaed@feddit.org 7 months ago
It’s Kev M.
theneverfox@pawb.social 7 months ago
What happened to Ken M?
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
Ken M has smooth skin
giantripdrop@piefed.social 7 months ago
I just saw a person in a suit, the. read the "mansplaining" comment, the. went back and saw the posters name.
It feels so forced or I am just oblivious. I thought the response was an asshole being an "acktuallllllly" response.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 months ago
The mansplaining thing in this context is more about an unfounded assumption of ignorance in the other party. Usually one would assume an astronaut to know basic thermodynamics, but the tweet's phrasing implies the other other person doesn't. It's less "you're wrong" and more "why do you think she doesn't know that."
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
In this case, though, he’s literally wrong. “Spontaneous” has a precise scientific definition and the astronaut is using it correctly.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 months ago
A lot more people than that astronaut are going to see the post reply, though. A lot of them probably haven’t taken a thermodynamics lesson.
plyth@feddit.org 7 months ago
unfounded assumption of ignorance in the other party
That’s the joke. Haha, stupid astronaut, you are supposed to know.
It’s obviously too early to make that joke with an astronautess.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
developing or occurring without apparent external influence, force, cause, or treatment
Pretty much the definition of spontaneous if you ask me.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 7 months ago
Yes, afaik in science community that is in fact the correct use of the word, meaning from “environmental” conditions (well, it’s test conditions for the environment in this case) and not from an active, localised influence.
Dasus@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I mean, if you put some stuff in a room, then slowly start to heat the room up, would you describe the things — which will at one point or another catch fire —as “spontaneously” combusting?
I’m not arguing the use is wrong here, just a thought I had.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 months ago
In addition to what MotoAsh said, it also has a definite external influence and a well defined force acting upon it. It boiled because it underwent a change in pressure.
feannag@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Without apparent external influence. Relative pressure is something humans have a hard time judging. As well as it just exists everyone in that zone vice something easy to perceive, like a fire under a pot boiling water.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I hope she brought enough tampons
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 7 months ago
“Spontaneous” doesn’t mean what you think it means.
affiliate@lemmy.world 7 months ago
yeah she may be a nasa astronaut and everything, but probably still doesn’t know as much as i do about boiling water. (i have cooked lots of pasta)