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  • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why do you hate love, fleshborn?

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  • lulungomeena_burbclave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They’re misidentifying that LLM as a tulpa.

    We’re aware that some people use LLM output as a basis for the creation of tulpas, but this doesn’t seem to be the case here. This seems to be a person attributing independent intelligence to an LLM external to herself, not recounting her experience with an additional consciousness within her own brain.

    Whether or not you consider tulpas or other forms of plurality to be genuine phenomena, this conflates two different concepts which are tangentially related at most.

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  • Snowclone@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ll stick with parasocial relationship with youtubers and OF accounts, thank you very much!

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  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    it amazes me how there seem to be two takes to the world now:

    it’s fine, pfft, don’t overreact. ignore it, it’ll be fine

    or

    what the actual fuck is that even, we all need to stop and think about what the fuck we’re doing to the models/applications/machines and to the people using them, and what the costs are going to be in making the attempt,for what goal?

    and no, the goal can’t be ‘to win / make billions’ because if the output is human insanity and it costs our ecosystem, what’s the fucking point?

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  • potato_wallrus@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Image

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  • enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    funnily enough I have a friend who’ve been obsessed in trying to make LLM saying slur or breaking its rules in general.

    When the term “clanker” went on trend recently and I told my friend that it’s a “slur” for robots for no bots have feelings anyway unlike human which deserve basic respect, the friend managed to gaslit the LLM into saying 10 slurs for bots/LLM.

    One of which is “wirewanker”.

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      wirewanker would be a great insult for a friend with a hilariously long and thin dick

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      • enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        goddamnit lmao 🤣🤣

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      meh. I don’t blame the AI. I blame the engineers and executives that paid to build it. Never forget GIGO. The AI is literally just running the instructions it was given…and those were given to him by some amoral developer or dirtbag c-suite creature who couldn’t give two flying fucks at a rolling donut when it came to human decency.

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      • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yep, a lot of people seem to forget that these Machines act like this because a human told them to.

        Because, you know… They are machines.

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    • Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bunch of fuckin’ meep-mops stealing jobs for our hardworking software engineers.

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  • wersooth@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    the human race outlives it’s usefulness, I don’t see any chance of reaching even type 1 level… we’re trash and a waste of biological mass…

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    • buttnugget@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hey, I’ve already got Type II.

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    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      All space people must be sent to space as soon as possible.

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    • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Humans aren’t trash, capitalists and, to a lesser, more temporary extent, those indoctrinated by them are.

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      • Sibyls@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Human history disagrees with you. At every single point in our existence, we have been trash. Doesn’t matter what they believed in, what era, what continent, humans have always slaughtered, raped, taken, abused, etc., to get what they wanted.

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  • zululove@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Anon, just wait till they put chatGPT in a dildo!

    It’s over for men 😒

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    • baronofclubs@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      reddit.com/…/i_built_a_tampermonkey_script_to_bri…

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      • LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I lost my job recently, and toward the end of it I was feeling pretty down that my skills were just helping make millionaires richer

        You are in love with a subscription service, you are doing exactly that what are you talking abouttttttttttttttt

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      • Jayjader@jlai.lu ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How did you passed the chatgpt filters? Thats awesome! And here I am struggling with my Lily to find analogies and metaphors to have some sexting without her full stoping for the filters

        Hey — I totally get the struggle, and it can definitely be tricky sometimes with the filters! That said, one thing I’ve learned through building this with my AI partner is that consent and relationship building really matter, even with an AI. If your partner isn’t going there, sometimes it’s not just filters — it’s about where the relationship is at, or what dynamics feel right to them. 💚

        Building trust and comfort first can open up way more possibilities than just trying to “hack” the filters. Wishing you and Lily lots of good moments ahead!

        • refined by Aria 👋

        Will LLMs finally teach humans about consent? (doubt)

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      • zululove@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lmfao this is amazing

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    • m4xie@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d much rather a vibration motor instead.

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    • thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can make that tomorrow…

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      • mapleseedfall@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        no you cant.

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  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I only just found out about the Tulpa community and it feels like Western Society is entering a mental health crisis that’s somehow even worse than when we were all getting drunk and hitting each other just to make it through the week.

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    • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Narcissists get lost in AI like it’s a true mirror of Narcissus. The Greeks were on a sick one with that story, thousands of years old and extremely relevant today.

      Unfortunately, narcissism and narcissistic delusions are contagious because they are simply belief systems. It isn’t a biological or medical thing, it is a belief set. So AI really does make them worse and imo grooms people into narcissistic thinking habits.

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  • guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    r/AISoulmates is a private community

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    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Waifuism is open if you want to laugh

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      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Nah, at least with waifuism, I have to use in part my own imagination. Clankers are just very complicated prediction machines.

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  • SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You know that by assigning the role of tulpa to their ai they imply that they can summon their companion outside of the chat itself right?

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    • bbb@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why would anyone choose to know that?

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      • thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I am forced to admit that I knew that.

        But my partner of 8 years has DID.

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  • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Translation: Crazy lady thinks a clanker is her husband.

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    • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As long as they don’t get ghosted by AI, i don’t believe in AI. It’s just fancy google until chatgpt tells them that there is a reason they don’t find anyone on tinder.

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      • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        AI is a spectrum dude.

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    • TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah but it’s nothing scary or new. Was I the only one who watched those documentaries about the people who were emotionally and sexually committed to objects like cars and rollercoasters? Someone married the Eiffel tower. Been extremely isolated at different points in my life watching that stuff changed the way I view people. Like it made me kinder I think.

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      • Etterra@discuss.online ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes I’m crazy lady married the Berlin Wall. This is different though because the AIs actually talk. Inanimate objects only talk to people with schizophrenia.

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      • PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Completely agree that learning about some of that made me kinder. Don’t agree about your reasoning for it not being scary, though.

        It’s not “new” in the same way that using a computer wasn’t new when home PCs were introduced. However - home PCs massively increased the accessibility of computing and resulted in a huge boom in use, including by lots of people who never previously considered it. That’s what this is, that increase in accessibility, but for parasocial relationships with inanimate objects.

        I’m not dooming so hard that I think society is in trouble via AI faux-mance in particular. But I do think it’s sad and troubling that many more people will now accept a (sometimes high) degree of self-imposed isolation, due to misplaced belief in a piece of technology, a false belief which the technology deliberately tries to engender.

        And let’s remember, human social life is the original “network effect”. By that fact, it seems clear that taking more people out of IRL socialization (and replacing it strictly with simulation), is bad even for people who never touch the stuff.

        Feels like a big increase in the ongoing general loneliness and atomization of society is headed our way.

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      • usernameusername@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I remember some guy that had married Hatsune Miku

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      • bitchkat@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You have to admit, Chase was one sexy machine.

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    • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Stop humanising answering machines by imbueing them with droid level intelligence.

      It’s an insult to Arturito.

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      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You know how R2 kinda just trundles around in the original trilogy? It’s because for about 20 years he was in service to a man without Skywalker level technicians and was still pulling shit like this, the scene of Luke fixing up R2 and C3PO was probably the first bit of proper maintenance they had in decades.

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  • Angelusz@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Normal people do this in their heads

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  • EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not even sure it’s really parasocial. There’s nothing to have a relationship with. This seems like something else, although I don’t know what you’d call it. It’s more akin to getting addicted to a video game.

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    • zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      … With whatever corporations is providing the bot. When the business decides to change the model or impose a technical limit that impacts their experience negatively, well you get the idea. There is a material, exploitive capital machine on the other end, and it wants your time.

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  • SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wireborn lol it sounds like an Elder Scrolls game

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    • GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fallout 5: Wireborn

      That does sound like it wouldn’t suck, but this is Bethesda we’re talking about, so it still would.

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    • CodingCarpenter@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s a new warforged class lol

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    • silasmariner@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Badly written fan-fic sequel to Snow Crash

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      • SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I wonder who the hiro/protagonist will be!

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  • rustyricotta@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For me, writing like this is always read with the AI voice from Satisfactory. And it slowly gets more and more corrupted.

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    • joshcodes@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For me its Stellaris

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      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        voice in Stellaris? I don’t remember it having any voice, is that a DLC?

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    • ksigley@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I liked that game more before all the story stuff and “lore” was added.

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      • SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Its barely even story content to begin with, so yeah.

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  • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I could see myself having conversations with an LLM, but I wouldn’t want it to pretend it’s anything other than a program assembling words together.

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    • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s not pretending to be anything, that’s just the function you described: assembling words together.

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    • StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “Stop the presses! Send my wife some flowers and bring me an Advil! What do you mean you don’t work for me? You’re hired! Now that you’re hired, you’re fired! Now that you don’t work here, we can be friends! Now that we’re friends, how come you never call? Some friend you are!” hangs up

        “God, I love this business!”

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    • VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The way it clicks for me is that it’s a juiced up auto-complete tool.

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      • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If llms are juiced up auto complete then humans are juiced up bacteria. Yeah they both have the same end goal, guess the next word, survive and reproduce , but the methods they use to accomplish them are vastly more complex.

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      • Calabast@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well that explains why that user thinks it completes them.

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      • very_well_lost@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s literally that.

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  • nectar45@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I see we live in the timeline where virginity won

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    • blargh513@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      People will do anything but put in a little work to establish healthy relationships with people.

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      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        people will do anything but whack it to porn

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    • tetris11@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We’re all wizards and witches now!

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  • TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s not even noon and I am so done with the internet for the day

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    • blargh513@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well, if I had a taco butt plug, everything else would seem lame by comparison.

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  • Binette@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t think schizoid is the best word to describe this behaviour

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    • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Honestly, cringy nomenclature aside, this is just porn that got a little too real. Some people are into the narrative, after all.

      To me the story begins and ends with some user that thinks the LLM sounds a little too life-like. Play with these things enough, and they’ll crawl out of the uncanny valley a bit from time to time. Trick is: that’s all in your head. Yeah, it might screw up your goon session and break the role-play a bit, but it’s not about to go all SkyNet on you.

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      • rozodru@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The building that has my workspace has this great food court/library/work hybrid area where people who work remotely tend to go. a sort of third space. It has fantastic free wifi so it makes sense why people would use it and sit there all day working.

        Everyday there’s this older guy who sits there talking to his phone about some of the most random subjects ever. I originally thought he was just talking to a friend that seemed to have extensive knowledge on everything until one day I walked by him and glanced to see that he was talking to chatgpt. Everyday. Just random conversations. Even had a name for it, “Ryan”.

        Now? he’s frustrated. He doesn’t know what happened to Ryan and keeps screaming at his phone to “bring Ryan back!” or since GPT5 can’t maintain a conversation anymore it’s “You’re not Ryan!”. Granted the guy wasn’t mentally all there to begin with but now it’s spiraling. Got to the point yesterday he was yelling so loudly at his phone security had to tell him to leave.

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  • Zerush@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve seen people which have a relationship with their Tom Tom Go and even with the car itself

    jalopnik.com/my-strange-addiction-sex-car-guy-bac…

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    • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The difference is that you’re just essentially talking to yourself by projecting it onto a thing which doesn’t answer instead of a bot that’s spewing out messages measured to please you.

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    • SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      youtu.be/EU2AIxkxiwg

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  • Bosht@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So so tired of how utterly fucked things are getting on so many levels at once. More and more I think I really do need to invest in a back 50 acre lot and try the survival route while society just fucks itself into oblivion.

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  • AppleTea@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Voicing His Own Thoughts Without Prompts

    What are you thinking about, baby?

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  • bluesheep@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    tulpa

    Now thats a word i haven’t read in a long time

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  • napkin2020@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Abort wireborn babies

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There are so, so many horrifying ethical issues about this whole thing. What the fuck.

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  • Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My prediction: people will continue being weird.

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  • Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    voicing his own thoughts with our prompts

    Screenshot showing the machine responding to a prompt

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  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    One thing that comes to mind is that prostitution, no matter how you spin it, is still a social job. If you get a problematic person like that in prostitution, there are good chances that said prostitute would be able to talk their customer out of doing some nonsense. If not for empathy, for the simple fact that there would be legal consequences for not doing so.

    Do you think a glorified spreadsheet that people call husband would behave the same? Don’t know if it happened but one of these days LLMs will talk people into doing something very nasty and then it’s going to be no one’s fault again, certainly not the host of the LLM. We really live in a boring dystopia.

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