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• Deflated0ne@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The problem isn’t AI. The problem is Capitalism.

  The problem is always Capitalism.

  AI, Climate Change, rising fascism, all our problems are because of capitalism.

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  • Ofiuco@piefed.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      psychologytoday.com/…/suicide-prevention-hotlines…

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    • zeca@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Problems would exist in any system, but not the same problems. Each system has its set of problems and challenges. Just look at history, problems change. Of course you can find analogies between problems, but their nature changes with our systems. Hunger, child mortality, pollution, having no free time, war, censorship, mass surveilence,… these are not constant through history. They happen more or less depending on the social systems in place, which vary constantly.

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    • Eldritch@piefed.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      While you aren't wrong about human nature. I'd say you're wrong about systems. How would the same thing happen under an anarchist system? Or under an actual communist (not Marxist-Leninist) system? Which account for human nature and focus to use it against itself.

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Can, would… and did. The list of environmental disasters in the Soviet is long and intense.

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  • SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Rather, our problem is that we live in a world where the strongest will survive, and the strongest does not mean the smart… So alas we will always be in complete shit until we disappear.

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    • Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The fittest survive. The problem is creating systems where the best fit are people who lack empathy and and a moral code.

      A better fit would be selecting world leaders from the population at random.

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    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s a pathetic, defeatist world view. Yeah, we’re victims of our circumstances, but we can make the world a better place than what we were raised in.

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• BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?

  Ai is literally making people dumber:

  microsoft.com/…/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_sur…

  www.theregister.com/…/is_ai_changing_our_brains/

  They are a massive privacy risk:

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyH7zoP-JOg&t=3015s

  theconversation.com/ai-tools-collect-and-store-da…

  Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:

  …org.uk/…/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/

  And they are a massive environmental disaster:

  news.mit.edu/…/explained-generative-ai-environmen…

  forbes.com/…/ai-is-accelerating-the-loss-of-our-s…

  Stop being a corporate apologist and stop wreaking the environment with this shit technology.

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  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?

    We don’t need a collection of random ‘AI bad’ articles because your entire premise is flawed.

    In general, people are not ‘sick of LLM and Ai slop’. Real people, who are not chronically online, have fairly positive views of AI and public sentiment about AI is actually becoming more positive over time.

    Here is Stanford’s report on the public opinion regarding AI (hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/…/public-opinion).

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    Stop being a corporate apologist and stop wreaking the environment with this shit technology.

    My dude, it sounds like you need to go out into the environment a bit more.

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We don’t need a collection of random ‘AI bad’ articles because your entire premise is flawed.

      god forbid you have evidence to support your premise. huh.

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My dude, it sounds like you need to go out into the environment a bit more.

      oh you have a spare ecosystem in the closet for when this one is entirely fucked huh? npr.org/…/elon-musk-ai-xai-supercomputer-memphis-…

      stop acting like it’s a rumor. the problem is real, it’s already here, they’re already crashing to build the data centers - so what, we can get taylor swift grok porn?

      That’s stanford graph is based on queries from 2022 and 2023 - it’s 2025 here in reality. Wake up. Times change.

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  • Hackworth@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Gish gallop

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  • surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re repeating debunked claims that are being pushed by tech giants to lobby for laws to monopolize AI control.

    I’d rather read AI crap than this idiocy.

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  • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:

    Everything can be used for that. If anything, I believe AI models are too restricted and tend not to argue on controversial subjects, which prevents you from learning anything. Censorship sucks

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  • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They are a massive privacy risk:

    I do agree on this, but at this point everyone uses instagram, snapchat, discord and whatever to share their DMs which are probably being sniffed by the NSA

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  • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ai is literally making people dumber: microsoft.com/…/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_sur…

    We surveyed 319 knowledge workers who use GenAI tools (e.g., ChatGPT, Copilot) at work at least once per week, to model how they enact critical thinking when using GenAI tools, and how GenAI affects their perceived effort of thinking critically. Analysing 936 real-world GenAI tool use examples our participants shared, we find that knowledge workers engage in critical thinking primarily to ensure the quality of their work, e.g. by verifying outputs against external sources. Moreover, while GenAI can improve worker efficiency, it can inhibit critical engagement with work and can potentially lead to long-term overreliance on the tool and diminished skill for independent problem-solving. Higher confidence in GenAI’s ability to perform a task is related to less critical thinking effort. When using GenAI tools, the effort invested in critical thinking shifts from information gathering to information verification; from problem-solving to AI response integration; and from task execution to task stewardship. Knowledge workers face new challenges in critical thinking as they incorporate GenAI into their knowledge workflows. To that end, our work suggests that GenAI tools need to be designed to support knowledge workers’ critical thinking by addressing their awareness, motivation, and ability barriers.

    I would not say “can potentially lead to long-term overreliance on the tool and diminished skill for independent problem-solving” equals to “literally making people dumber”. A sample size of 319 isn’t really representative anyways, and they mainly had a sample of a specific type of people. People switch from searching to verifying, which doesn’t sound too bad if done correctly. They associate critical thinking with verifying everything (“Higher confidence in GenAI’s ability to perform a task is related to less critical thinking effort”), not sure I agree on this.

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  • AnonomousWolf@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    …substack.com/…/a-cheat-sheet-for-conversations-a…

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    • BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not clicking on a substack link. Fucking Nazi promoting shit website

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  • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ai is literally making people dumber:

    And books destroyed everyone’s memory. People used to have fantastic memories.

    They are a massive privacy risk:

    No different than the rest of cloud tech. Run your AI local like your other self hosting.

    Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:

    Hitler used radio to push fascism into every home. It’s not the medium, it’s the message.

    And they are a massive environmental disaster:

    AI uses a GPU just like gaming uses a GPU. Building a new AI model uses the same energy that Rockstar spent developing GTA5. But it’s easier to point at a centralized data center polluting the environment than thousands of game developers spread across multiple offices creating even more pollution.

    Stop being a corporate apologist

    Run your own AI! Complaining about “corporate AI” is like complaining about corporate email. Host it yourself.

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    • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Run your own AI!

      Oh sure, let me just pull a couple billion out of the couch cushions to spin up a data center in the middle of the desert.

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  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Lol I didn’t know that the anarchists over at lemmy.dbzer0.com are being corporate apologists. /sarcasm

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    • oatscoop@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Weird … It looks like I can sign up for an account on dbzer0 even though I’m not actually an anarchist.

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  • SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This can be called not a technology, but a weapon for killing in my opinion.

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  • AnonomousWolf@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you ever take a flight for holiday, or even drive long distance and cry about AI being bad for the environment then you’re a hypocrite.

    Same goes for if you eat beef, or having a really powerful gaming rig that you use a lot.

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    • Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Texas has just asked residents to take less showers while datacenters made specifically for LLM training continue operating.

      This is more like feeling bad for not using a paper straw while local factory dumps all their oil change into the community river.

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    • Sl00k@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This echo chamber isn’t ready for this logical discussion yet unfortunately lol

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    • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re getting downvoted for speaking the truth to an echo chamber my guy.

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    • BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ahh so are you going to acknowledge the privacy invasion and brain rotting cause by Ai or are you just going to focus on dismissing the environmental concerns? Cause I liked more than just the environmental impacts.

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    • SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hypocrisy can be called the primitive nature of man who chooses what is easier because he is designed that way. Human is like a cancerous tumor for the planet.

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  • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?

    With the number of times that refrain is regurgitated here ad nauseum, need is an odd way to put it. Sick of it might fit sentiments better. Done with this & not giving a shit is another.

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    • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Evil must be fought as long as it exists.

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• josefo@leminal.space ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes

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• GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t hate the concept as is, I hate how it is being marketed and shoved everywhere and into everything by sheer hype and the need for returns on the absurd amounts of money that were thrown at it.

  Companies use it to justify layoffs, create cheap vibed up products, delegate responsibilities to am absolutely not computer program. Not even mentioning the colossal amount of natural and financial resources being thrown down this drain.

  I read a great summary yesterday somewhere on here that essentially said “they took a type of computer model made to give answers to very specific questions it has been trained on, and then trained it on everything to make a generalist”. Except that doesn’t work, the broader the spectrum the model is covering the less accurate it will be.

  Identifying skin cancer? Perfect tool for the job.

  Giving drones the go ahead on an ambiguous target? Providing psychological care to people in distress? FUCK NO.

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  • SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And here the question is: should we laugh out of despair or just cry?

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• dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Pfft, as if a post on lemmy would ever get more than 1K upvotes.

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• Mika@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  lemmycirclejerk ☺️

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• CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It Is true thou, ai bad

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• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  But like… Good.

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• outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No but see we need machibes to do all the art for us, and averaging machibes to tell us wjat is and isnt true!

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• Mostly_Roblox@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I personally think of AI as a tool, what matters is how you use it. I like to think of it like a hammer. You could use a hammer to build a house, or you could smash someone’s skull in with it. But no one’s putting the hammer in jail.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Extreme oversimplification. Hammers don’t kill the planet by simply existing.

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    • Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And neither does AI? The massive data centers are having negative impacts on local economies, resources and the environment.

      Just like a massive hammer factory, mines for the metals, logging for handles and manufacturing for all the chemicals, paints and varnishes have a negative environmental impact.

      Saying something kills the planet by existing is an extreme hyperbole.

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  • RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A hammer doesn’t consume exorbitant amounts of power and water.

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    • ilovepiracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What about self hosting? I can run a local GenAI on my gaming PC with relative ease. This isn’t consuming mass amounts of power.

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    • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do you think hammers grow out of the ground? Or that the magically spawn the building materials to work on?

      Everything we do has a cost. We should definitely strive for efficiency and responsibile use of resources. But to use this as an excuse, while you read this in a device made of metals mined by children, is pretty hypocritical.

      No consumption is ehical under capitalism, take responsibility instead for what you do with that consumption.

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Neither does an algorithm.

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  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, except it’s a tool that most people don’t know how to use but everyone can use, leading to environmental harm, a rapid loss of media literacy, and a huge increase in wealth inequality due to turmoil in the job market.

    So… It’s not a good tool for the average layperson to be using.

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    • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Stop drinking the cool aid bro. Think of these statements critically for a second. Environmental harm? Sure. I hope you’re a vegan as well.

      Loss of media literacy: What does this even mean? People are doing things the easy way instead of the hard way? Yes, of course cutting corners is bad, but the problem is the conditions that lead to that person choosing to cut corners, the problem is the demand for maximum efficiency at any cost, for top numbers. AI is is making a problem evident, not causing it. If you’re home on a Friday after your second shift of the day, fuck yeah you want to do things easy and fast. Literacy what? Just let me watch something funny.

      Do you feel you’ve become more stupid? Do you think it’s possible? Why wouild other people, who are just like you, be these puppets to be brain washed by the evil machine?

      Ask yourself. How are people measuring intelligence? Creativity? How many people were in these studies and who funded them? If we had the measuring instrument needed to actually make categorizations like “People are losing intelligence.” Psychologists wouldn’t still be arguing over the exact definition of intelligence.

      Stop thinking of AI as a boogieman inside people’s heads. It is a machine. People using the machine to achieve a mundane goal, it doesn’t mean the machine created the goal or is responsible for everything wrong with humanity.

      Huge increase in inequality? What? Brother AI is a machine. It is the robber barons that are exploiting you and all of the working class to get obsenely rich. AI is the tool they’re using. AI can’t be held accountable. AI has no will. AI is a tool. It is people that are increasing inequality. It is the system held in place by these people that rewards exploitation and encourages to look at the evil machine instead. And don’t even use it, the less you know, the better. If you never engage with AI technology, you’ll believe everything I say about how evil it is.

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  • oppy1984@lemdro.id ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Seriously, the AI hate gets old fast. Like you said it’s a tool, gey over it people.

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      gey over it

      👁️👄👁️🏳️‍🌈

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  • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people”

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    • imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We once had played this game with friends where you get a word stuck on your forehead and you have to guess what are you.

      One guy got C4 (as in explosive) to guess and he failed. I remember that we had to agree with each other whether C4 is or is not a weapon. Main idea was that explosives are comparatively rarely used in actual killing opposed to other things like mining and such. Parallel idea was that is Knife a weapon?

      But ultimately we agreed that C4 is not a weapon. It was invented not primarily to to kill or injure. Opposed to guns, that are only for killing or injuring.

      Take guns away, people will kill with literally anything else. But give an easy access to guns, people will kill with them. Gun is not a tool, it is a weapon by design.

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    • burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      m.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk

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    • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yet gun control works.

      Same idea.

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    • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bad faith comparison.

      The reason we can argue for banning guns and not hammers is specifically because guns are meant to hurt people. That’s literally their only use. Hammers have a variety of uses and hurting people is definitely not the primary one.

      AI is a tool, not a weapon. This is kind of melodramatic.

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    • Kintarian@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Guns don’t kill people. People with guns kill people.

      Ftfy

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    • ignotum@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My skull-crushing hammer that is made to crush skulls and nothing else doesn’t crush skulls, people crush skulls
      In fact, if more people had skull-crushing hammers in their homes, i’m sure that would lead to a reduction in the number of skull-crushings, the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a skull-crushing hammer, is a good guy with a skull-crushing hammer

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• salty_chief@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Remember when the internet was treated like AI when it first dropped? People up in arms about internets influence on young people/kids.

  This all seems really familiar.

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  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Arguably, they may have been right given the decade or so.

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  • grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean they were right about the internet. The corporations turned most of it into a cluster of competing megamalls that make people anxious while selling them things.

    Never mind that even just open a port 443 anywhere in the world will open you up to roving bands of OC scrapers, which feed the next evolution of corp power.

    It’s not like a bunch of basement nerds made LLMs and now corps are trying to muscle in (like with the internet). This new technology is theirs, from its R&D to now its aggressive rollout across all sectors of the Internet they control.

    I don’t have much hope for the commercial AI or LLM services that are available to most consumers. I think they’re going to enshittify so bad that we’re going to need a new word for it.

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  • socsa@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Honestly low-key technophobia has always been a major sentiment in otherwise tech-focused parts of the internet and it has always fascinated me.

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      because tech-focused people know enough to realize when new tech is shit

      Tech Enthusiasts: Everything in my house is wired to the Internet of Things! I control it all from my smartphone! My smart-house is bluetooth enabled and I can give it voice commands via alexa! I love the future!
      Programmers / Engineers: The most recent piece of technology I own is a printer from 2004 and I keep a loaded gun ready to shoot it if it ever makes an unexpected noise.
      Security technicians: takes a deep swig of whiskey I wish I had been born in the neolithic.

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  • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nobody is going to libraries anymore, The internet is killing books 🤬

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    • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What kind of selfish, emotionless psychopath do you have to be to legitimately think that libraries being unused, forgotten, and closed is a good thing?

      You ever thought about this: maybe if you visited your library in person more often, you’d actually have more friends.

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• TastehWaffleZ@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Ek is mal oor jou gebruikersnaam. Ek ook.

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  • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Dankie!! Jy is die eerste wat agter kom.

    As jy nog nie weet van !southafrica@piefed.social weet nie gaan loer daar rond. Ek probeer n bietjie vann gemeenskap daar bou.

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• lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Apple = bad is also an instant karma farm 😁

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  • grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I prefer the fine vintage of a M$ = bad post, myself.

    Or perhaps even a spicy little Ubuntu = bad post.

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• ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You’d also get a ton of upvotes for saying “Trump bad”, but you wouldn’t be wrong. Shit is just shit.

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  • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It would still be a performative post though.

    What we need is a circlejerk@ community

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  • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He's potentially bringing the downfall of the US, so that could be seen as good?

    AI isn't that black and white, just like any big technology it can be used for good or bad.

    Just like Airplanes

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• DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  WTF is "AI"? You mean LLM?

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  • frog@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah. I hate the naming of it too. It’s not AI in the sense how science fiction saw it. History repeats itself in the name of marketing. I’m still very annoyed with these marketers destroying the term “hover board”.

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  • psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Either Al Capone or Weird Al.

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• sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s a response to the overwhelming FOMO “ngmi” shilling on every other platform.

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• Tetsuo@jlai.lu ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  An AI could be demonstrably 30 times more accurate than a human in diagnosing a cancer on a scan Lemmy would still shit on it because it’s an IA :D.

  On Reddit I knew that the subject of gun control was not allowed to be talked about. Now I embraced Lemmy and I can’t talk no matter what about AI. It’s just a taboo subject. Apparently some people want to reject the tech entirely and think it will somehow just magically stay out of their lives. A very naive dream.

  So yeah Lemmy. Refuse the conversation, look away, I’m sure it will be fine.

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• RushLana@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  How people dare not like the automatic bullshit machine pushed down their troat…

  Seriously, genrative AI acomplishment are :

  • Making mass spam easier
  • Burning the planet
  • Making people lose their job and not even being a decent solution
  • Make all search engine and information sources worse
  • Creating an economic bubble that will fuckup the economy even harder
  • Easing mass surveillance and weakening privacy everywhere

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• occultist8128@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Peak misunderstanding between AI and LLM

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• Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Where are you seeing more than 200 upvotes on any post?

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• ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not all that glitters is gold. 🤷

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• Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Distributed platform owned by no one founded by people who support individual control of data and content access Majority of users are proponents of owning what one makes and supporting those who create art and entertainment AI industry shits on above comments by harvesting private data and creative work without consent or compensation, along with being a money, energy, and attention tar pit

  Buddy, do you know what you’re here for? Or are you yet another bot lost in the shuffle?

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• EndlessApollo@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  ai is pretty bad tho

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