Already using Spotify to pirate music.
Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK
Submitted 8 months ago by QuantumSpecter@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Psythik@lemmy.world 8 months ago
ReVanced? Or a Spotify downloader?
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Zotify
fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Just a web-based downloader, I’m patient and simple:p
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
They will be blown away by the quality increase they get🤭
(Pirate tend to share/prefere best quality content, while Spotify offers only 256kbit mp3 as far as I remember (or is it 320kbi now?))
dunz@feddit.nu 8 months ago
Spotify uses vorbis if I’m not mistaken, not mp3. Mp3 sounds like absolute ass, even at 320.
moody@lemmings.world 8 months ago
Most people can’t tell the difference between 128 kbit MP3 and high quality recordings.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
How about 48 kbit MP3? And more than that, for plenty of recordings that’s sufficient.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Can’t confirm, I can’t tell.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
most people
Many people are ok with hearing music out of a phone speaker. Audiophiles don’t necessarily care about how “most people” perceive sound quality.
SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 8 months ago
i didn’t care about just grabbing the 720p 600mb video file back when i was watching on a little laptop screen.
it does not hold up on the big stuff.
kinda same applies to audio?
crap sounds like crap on a phone speaker, but so does hi quality stuff.
noise and low dynamics are more noticeable on more powerful, louder gear.
just spitballing here, not an expert!
Waffle@infosec.pub 8 months ago
Idk man. Show someone some cymbals on a 128kbps track and it sounds like someone crumpling a plastic bag via a tin can connected to a string. In contrast flac is going to sound much more natural.
I’d agree with you regarding 320 and flac - most people are gonna have a hard time differentiating.
Akasazh@feddit.nl 8 months ago
I jerked it to the Hanson mmbop video back in the nineties.
Found out later the girl was a boy.
You can judge all you want, but the general thing is that horny teenagers will jerk it to almost anything.
UltraMasculine@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Nice to know that I’m not the only one. It was quite a surprise when I realized that they all were boys/men.
Akasazh@feddit.nl 8 months ago
There’s more out there that would never admit it because of that. Which is silly when you think about it.
Slovene@feddit.nl 8 months ago
SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 8 months ago
Kids these days will let you be attracted to whoever you want.
FEIN@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Thank you for letting us know. I’ll be sure to use this information to my best.
Akasazh@feddit.nl 8 months ago
The internet is based on this underlying trust. You are a true custodian!
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 8 months ago
…genuinely trying to figure out how this relates to the topic at hand.
Akasazh@feddit.nl 8 months ago
bier@feddit.nl 8 months ago
That a porn ban does not work and people will find a way around it.
When I was a kid there weren’t all this free porn sites and most of them were paid.
So you would go to some shady site where people shared passwords. This might make a comeback
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It moreso relates to what’s in hand
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Wait there’s a boy in that band? Stop trolling.
guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Just do it.
Flac > Spotify.
IllNess@infosec.pub 8 months ago
I keep getting advice of Flac > MP3 320 kbs.
I can’t tell the difference to tell you the truth. Is it really worth it for audiophiles considering how much more space Flac files takes up?
haloduder@thelemmy.club 8 months ago
I’d say it’s definitely worth it.
Our brains shouldn’t have to work harder to listen to lossy music, which is what happens even if you can’t reliably perceive it.
Listening to music on acid (a lot) has really shaped my views of it and how even the most minor things can have a major impact on the final experience.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Go to Opus 128 kbps. About the same as MP3 320 or better.
LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
It could be the quality of your headphones.
I’m not an audiophile, but back-in-the-day I bought some analog “sennheiser studio monitors” as opposed to “just headphones”.
I actually returned the first one and exchanged them, because when I listened to a live recorded CD, I kept hearing loud “pops” that I didn’t hear with my “regular headphones”. I assumed they were defective.
The exchanged sennheiser had the same “pop” in this CD. It turns out, most “regular headphones” didn’t have the same depth in sound frequency as studio monitors and the “pops” were accidental artifacts that were mixed into the CD.
For other CD’s, I’d hear telephones ringing and sirens in the background.
Eventually, I got use to it. Then after a few years, I replaced my CD collection with mp3’s… and I could tell a different in songs/albums I was really familiar with. The base wasn’t as deep, the high sounds weren’t as high, I didn’t hear telephones ringing in the background.
I had the same sennheiser, it was just that the nature of mp3’s “flattened” the music.
Now, with Bluetooth and the disappearance of 3.5 mm jacks, there are too many layers of digital conversion happening. I’ve given up… and now just have some cheap ear buds I listen to.
FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 8 months ago
There are online test you can do to see if you can successfully identify the FLAC from the MP3. I did one and failed miserably.
They say that if you have a very good DAC, amplifier and speaker / headphone system (as well as a good ear for audio), that you can hear it. But I would do the test first to see if it applies to your situation.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Flac files contain orders of magnitude more data. As for the listening experience it’s only ever going to be as good as the speakers at the other end. You’ll also need a wired connection to said speakers in order to avoid some compression over Bluetooth. (Unless there’s some newfangled lossless BT protocol that I’m unaware of.)
zueski@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
It is better, but it depends on the audio for the difference. Also, it would probably be hard to hear the difference playing over a phones speakers. The weakest link in the chain is always the problem you notice the most. Having a good setup for amp/speakers and you can hear the difference. Using Bluetooth earbuds to mow the lawn, it doesn’t matter. Sitting in my living room on my nice stereo, I notice.
Psythik@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The space it takes up is negligible.
The benefit is not in being able to hear a difference (I know I sure can’t), but knowing that you can re-encode the file as many times as you want, without any quality loss (assuming you’re going from lossless to lossless, of course). Or create an mp3 from the flac file at any time, with the same quality as a ripped CD.
So basically FLAC is great if you produce/edit/re-encode your music files often. If you don’t do any of that (and have no plans to future-proof your music collection), then 320Kbps MP3 is more than adequate for your needs.
SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 8 months ago
yeh
goatinspace@feddit.org 8 months ago
Arr!!! Me hearty
billwashere@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m confused. Is every app in the UK requiring face scanning? I thought it was just adult content.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Bluesky app also seems to require this for some features.
eagris@lemmy.world 8 months ago
According to the article :
However, the platform does have certain features that are aimed at mature users. In Spotify’s case, you may be asked to verify your age if you try to “access some Spotify content and features, like Music videos that are labeled as 18+ by rightsholders”. This could also apply to podcasts that discuss mature content and songs with explicit lyrics.
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Never had a Spotify account, and I never will. I have apple one, but Im kinda forced into that because of the other half. But if Apple pulls this shit, Im not paying for it. I VPN everything, but I still wont support any company that complies with this bullshit with my money.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Bring it on! Sail the high seas. Yargh!
DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 8 months ago
One more reason if you’re still buying music, to start buying physical albums again while you still can.
CDs aren’t age-gated and you can rip them to FLAC yourself.
percent@infosec.pub 8 months ago
+1 for vinyl. The album art, inserts, etc. really adds something to the experience that I had long forgotten over the years of downloading and streaming music.
DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 8 months ago
CDs still do that to some extent, especially with indie releases, and also higher-end physical formats like SACD and DVD-Audio tend to have a lot of extras packed in with them as they’re typically considered to be special editions of a given album, but both SACD and DVD-Audio are DRM-encumbered unlike normal CDs and of course analog formats where DRM doesn’t apply, so trying to get them on a PC will be harder if not impossible especially as the DSD codec that SACD uses has particularly nasty DRM shipped with it IIRC.
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I need a cheap mp3 player
Doorbook@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They dont care about music, they want to make sure you are not listening to podcast they dont like.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 months ago
Back to Piracy! ✊🏴☠️
Really though? It isn’t necessary. Use Bandcamp, you probably have half your artists covered. The rest - one of those Spotify alternatives: Tidal? Qobuz?
kepix@lemmy.world 8 months ago
more like 3% bandcamp availability. i know this is a linux/trans/selfhost/overpayeddev/westeu/foss echochamber, but im not wasting electricity and money on selfhost if a 1tb sd card in my phone can do the same thing offline.
LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Thanks for recommending Navidrome. It looks really interesting.
I was using Spotify, but switched to Spotube. After Spotube was crippled, I was kind of aimless. I really liked having my music available on my cellphone and desktop. It looks like Navidrome will fill the gap perfectly.
You’d mentioned ripping CDs. Would you have some software, you’d recommend (Windows or Linux)? Preferably in FLAC.
I haven’t looked at ripping software in a few years, but it was kind of tedious to set up and very manual to get the proper metadata, genres, and cover art. I’ve got a hundred CDs and that’ll take awhile…
xspurnx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I want to leave Windows behind… abcde seems the way to go for Linux.
On Windows I use EAC, it’s great but requires a little work to set up. There are a lot of tutorials for it if course.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 months ago
abcdefor Linux. It’s in your repositories. Set it up once the way you want, then it’s just: insert CD, enterabcde, repeat ad nauseam.DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Don’t know if it’s still what’s recommended, but I use foobar2000 for ripping CDs to FLAC.
louloukoutsis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I have Jellyfin for movies/tv, and gonic for music!
thedarkfly@feddit.nl 8 months ago
I switched to Deezer!
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
I would suggest Qobuz (if available) or Tidal. Deezer’s CEO is a hard-core religious nutjob who finances anti-trans orgs and sexual conversion “therapies”.
Damionsipher@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Go to shows, buy the albums from the merch tables and use the events (to the best of your individual ability) as a means to connect with like minded anti-fascists.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 months ago
That is of course even better. Just wish any band I’m interested in would ever come to play this quiet corner *sigh*
teamevil@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Bandcamp is the best
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Harmonize?
0konomiyaki@aussie.zone 8 months ago
Navidrome maybe? But I use jellyfin + symfonium myself. All my music is either bandcamp or used CDs. Started collecting music late last year and my entire collection is legally sourced now. No piracy required. Hardest part was starting very small and building the collection over time.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 months ago
used CDs
I get them dirt cheap or completely for free. It’s actually reverse piracy since no doubt the previous owners ripped everything.
vane@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not sure about all those political experiments in the internet. Maybe they just don’t like HTTP ? Maybe it’s time to make HTTP to join BBS ?
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Let this be a reminder to never turn away from piracy. It needs to constantly be in the background and if any company gets like they always do, then it comes back out. But if we let the knowledge fade away then it’s impossible to rebuild it.
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Piracy preserves media.
Piracy preserves art.
Piracy makes sure, that future generations still have access to the creation of humanity.
Data hoarding is a service to the public.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
I initially perceived piracy similarly to how or perceive reading about archaeology and such, so the fact that someone is sincere in hating p2p copying and calling it immoral just felt preposterous.
Yet now it seems plenty of normies will agree. Then go listen to something they didn’t pay for on YouTube or Facebook or whatever, because “everybody uses that”. What “everybody uses” is fine, see. What they condemn me the pirate for is using ed2k, torrents and such other technologies. Even when I’m literally downloading public domain stuff or abandonware.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It doesn’t take much for media though to parade out the “lil guy and change the opinion of people about how your basically attacking small time creators”
FinalRemix@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“Keep circulating the tapes!”
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Does anyone have a good podcast app to replace Spotify that will keep track of progress across multiple devices? Bonus points if I can self host.
jabjoe@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Antennapod with gPodderersync & Nextcloud? There are podcast apps for Nextcloud to play in the browser.
Ashiggan@eviltoast.org 8 months ago
I always used podcast player. Never had any issues before.
filcuk@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
I use audiobookshelf. Obviously for audiobooks mainly, but it does podcasts and it works well.
bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world 8 months ago
ngl, Spotify has become hot ass these days
danc4498@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not Spotify’s fault here, though. Shit legislation.
N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 8 months ago
My favorite part is when the AI DJ plays some dumb song it’s previously served up repeatedly, and then tells me how much I like it because I listen to it so often. I’d never choose to listen to it on my own, and the only reason I hear it is because Spotify keeps cramming it down my throat.
kibiz0r@midwest.social 8 months ago
Spotify fans
“Fans”?
aceshigh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Apple fans. Spotify fans. Same shit.
answersplease77@lemmy.world 8 months ago
that’s like saying Amazon fans really lol
dinckelman@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If something’s finally going to force the industry to curb its bullshit, this might just be it. Once you annoy normal people, it’s all over. They seriously underestimate how many people would just stop using Spotify, or Youtube, or whatever other platform it is
blargh513@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
It would have to get pretty bad before people would be willing to forgo convenience.
That stuff is a nasty drug, very addictive and people will sell everything they got to keep it. They’d rather pay and arm and a leg instead of learning a little technology so they could help themselves.
People will slave themselves to the company that lets them be the most ignorant person possible but still enjoy the fun of technology.
Could you imagine if all mobile devices stopped using face recognition to unlock phones? I’d be willing to bet that a big chunk of people wouldn’t be able to use them at all. I’m surprised that google and apple haven’t started charging extra for that.
Epzillon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Im not even in the UK and im still going to cancel due to this. Thanks spotify, fuck you :)
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Way easier to arrr!
ashenone@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Even if your not in the UK you should go back to piracy. Steal from corporations as frequently as possible
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
ah from shady porn sites, like spotify and wikipedia. definitely protect kids from porn there.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Or you know you could punish parents for not parenting. Like if kids are watching porn and caught and if it’s actually against some law then go after the parents.
It’s not hard to teach parents how to implement a filtering DNS. But no, countries think they need to be the nanny.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Ha! Fuck. That.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Age verification is a great success I see. I feel so much sa#er now with this shit in place so kids can’t watch porn…
omniman@piefed.zip 8 months ago
Spotify was shit anyway use yt music
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 8 months ago
won’t they suffer the same fate?
omniman@piefed.zip 8 months ago
For now yt music is what new Spotify was , but when one goes down the other cums and dominate