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• dalekcaan@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  A reddit mod for a mensa sub sounds like possible the most insufferable combination imaginable

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  • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And yet, their comment was on point. Maybe its like w double negative

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  • quetzaldilla@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you happened to have an unusually high IQ, why you would you choose to join Mensa, or be a moderator on Reddit for that matter?

    The smartest thing you can do is obfuscate your level of intelligence, not brag about it. That’s just how you end up doing more work and getting blamed by everyone around you.

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Obfuscate your intelligence? Being a reddit mod sounds like it’s part of the plan, then.

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As far as I can tell, most people out there have expectations about high IQ people which are straight out of Hollywood films and wholly unrealistic, so best just leave then with whatever de facto impression of brightness they have about you than mention a number and trigger the “Mental Superman” expectations.

      Also going around parading your IQ falls straight into the rule “the more a person brags about some great personal quality, the less strong it is” - if you’re really that bright, brave, strong, beautiful, confident and so on, there is no need to mention it since it’s generally obvious to others.

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Eh, intelligence is fluid and the whole concept of a single IQ score is broken. Someone with a high IQ can be real-world dumb with a speciality,and a bunch of faults or not and someone bad at school math can become a genious engineer. And both can be equally good or bad politicians.

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• ashenone@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Gotta be dumb af to not like big booty latinas

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  • artiman@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    so true

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  • Harvey656@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Damn right, that’s why I married one.

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    • Obnomus@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fuck you man

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s my impression that people tend to be more attracted to the unusual, so if you’ve grown up surrounded by big booty latinas, they’re not as appealing as otherwise.

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    • acockworkorange@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not true. Latinos love big booty Latinas.

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    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When people tell me they like people with brown eyes (as someone with brown eyes) I have always presumed they are lying but just want to flatter me. It’s a stupid thing in my end I’m sure, but it still happens to me

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• shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  as someone who qualifies for mensa but like, i ain’t paying a subscription fee to be in the smart people club, that sounds really dumb (and also IQ testing is sketchy at best to begin with)

  yes, i always appreciate a big booty, on any ethnicity or gender, so latinas are indeed included

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  • DawnOfTime@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Haha I always thought that people running mensa are the real geniuses for basically selling self-esteem

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  • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Exactly! Mensa is essentially the filter for people who think they’re smart but actually aren’t.

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People at the peak Dunning-Kruger point of intelligence - just above average intelligent enough to feel they’re “above” most people but not enough to properly understand the full nature of intelligence and its limits.

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  • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    IQ testing as many other things, has racist origins and is for all intents and purposes quite useless imo

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    • mavu@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In the process of ADHS (dyslexia, other) disabilities, a IQ test is used to establish a baseline of what other people with a similar result can and cannot do and this is compared to what you can and cannot do.

      IQ tests do have uses.

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  • vivalapivo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    paying a subscription

    Waat

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mensa is for people smart enough to qualify, but dumb enough to get scammed.

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    • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      there’s a yearly membership fee

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    • ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      m.youtube.com/watch?v=qPMKqyaXtHI

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  • voodooattack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I took their online test out of curiosity and it said I was qualified to join. It was interesting to figure out the mechanism of it though.

    From what I gathered, it seems what they’re really measuring is your capacity for pattern recognition and association or something along those lines.

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    • ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Isn’t this what most of IQ tests do? I sometimes take them because it’s fun to solve the pattern tasks but I feel like it’s nearly impossible to test the really interesting things like transfer and problem solving capabilities in a reliable way at least in this kind of way.

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    • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I was curious too. I heard that online test didn’t mean shit, so I did an “official” Mensa Test and well, trust me, you don’t want to join.

      following is a summary of a real conversation that I witnessed:

      A parent sought advice, their child would fake being sick to avoid school within the first 2 weeks of the first school year. After some conversation, the parent expresses 2 opinions, 1. that they think their child gets bullied and 2. That the child couldn’t express themself well enough to communicate what the issue is. So they just assumed that their child gets bullied, because if my child would tell me that their classmates are mean, I would call that express themself quite well for that age. Then in the conversation, they talk about how they thought their child how to write and read. So they are wondering why their child doesn’t want to go to school after their child was forced to sit in a chair for hours, being taught the alphabet for hours that the child already knew. I wonder 🤔 can someone here tell us why the child doesn’t want to sit in a chair for hours, writing down the same letter again and again as practice for something that they are already able to do? Does someone know?

      They really couldn’t figure that one out.

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• diemartin@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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• sness@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Doubt you’d find either in a MENSA subreddit.

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• Photuris@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ok, so there is a pattern to this, and it has nothing to do with IQ per se.

  It has everything to do with political alignment. And it’s a multi-variant association (1. booty v. boobs, and 2. race / ethnicity / religion).

  I’ll use US-centric political terminology here.

  Hear me out:

  1. Men who prefer big healthy asses tend to lean left/Democrat/liberal/progressive. Men who prefer big boobs tend to lean right/Republican/conservative/fash.

  2. Men who are willing to date outside their own race / ethnicity tend to be more progressive than those who prefer to stay within their own race / ethnicity (although progressives can happily find partners within their own ethnic group, too; whereas conservative almost always look within their own ethnicity first).

  So, an appreciation for big booty Latinas signifies a. someone who leans left (booty), and b. a progressive willing to date outside their own race (assuming he’s not also Latino).

  A progressive / Democrat / liberal / lefty can also date PAWGs, big booty Black women, etc. and be perfectly happy.

  A Republican will only date someone within their ethnicity 95%+ of the time (some exceptions exist, but it’s relatively rare), and they ALWAYS prefer big mommy milkers, caring very little, or naught at all, for booties.

  So there you go. This is 100% anecdote, but one day, I guarantee, the research and science will back me up on this, as soon as someone conducts it.

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  • vivalapivo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Progressive here.

    I’m a boobs guy and never have I dated outside my ethnic group

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    • callouscomic@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Anecdote disproves unsubstantiated opinion.

      Science!

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    • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m a boobs guy and never have I dated outside my ethnic group

      Yet,

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    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think of myself as a progressive and I like both. But my country is like 99% white so I don’t get to play outside my group either :(

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is 100% anecdote, but one day, I guarantee, the research and science will back me up on this, as soon as someone conducts it.

    What’s stopping you? Haven’t you heard that the only difference between science and screwing around is writing things down? Start screwing around and writing down your findings!

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  • davepleasebehave@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Conclusive

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  • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    whereas conservative almost always look within their own ethnicity first

    Funnily enough, I don’t really see that happen. At least in my group of friends, the ones with the Filipino wives (and other wives from far away) are usually very conservative. They are then also very happy to talk badly about her family, her relatives and people from her country in general, but “she’s one of the good ones”.

    Maybe it’s due to the fact that they can’t find a local woman who’d accept them, and that way they get a wife with very conservative values who’s also happy to talk badly about her family/relatives/people.

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    1. Men who prefer big healthy asses tend to lean left/Democrat/liberal/progressive. Men who prefer big boobs tend to lean right/Republican/conservative/fash.

    Is that right?

    And personally more perky asses.

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• Mikina@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t get why something like Mesa even exists. Like, what even is the moment where pulling out your Mensa card is a good idea?

  Assuming you are inteligent, you should know that flashing a card from a gatekept “clever people” club will probably not impress many people, just like you should recognize that the test you did doesn’t mean shit and IQ is not a good way how to measure people.

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  • ProfessorPeregrine@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, no one “flashes a Mensa card” unless they are a jerk. We joined many years ago when we lived in Iowa for the social aspect. The parties are a lot of fun and the people are all fascinating. Not all people you want to spend time with, but fascinating. We let our memberships lapse when we moved back to Colorado.

    Nearly universally, Mensans recognized that IQ is only measure of how well you do on an IQ test (which, as you may know, was never intended as a test for the upper end, only to find students who needed intervention) or the other allowed tests.

    There were materially successful people and not, socially adept and not. People we learned to avoid and people who became friends. Cringe and connection.

    I suppose it is like any other social club where you have something in common with the additional kicker that people were not holding back in conversation. You had the chance to rapidly be humbled in that case if you went on at length about some favorite topic only to find out the person you were talking to was an expert in it.

    Plus there were cool speakers and field trips. “Dumb things smart people do” was one of our favorites.

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    • VitoRobles@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, no one “flashes a Mensa card” unless they are a jerk.

      One time I made fun of people who do cross fit and someone at the table said “I do CrossFit.” Then I said, “It’s almost as annoying as people who flex over their AMEX card.” And another guy pulled out his AMEX card.

      I regret not bringing up a Mensa Card.

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    • Mikina@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thank you, that makes perfect sense. It’s easy to fall from the outside into the trap of judging it by the “smarter than you club” label, and forgetting that probably isn’t the point for most members, and the club part is the important one.

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    • Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Honestly, that sounds like a lot of fun.

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  • parlaptie@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, the original idea behind Mensa was that if you got a bunch of really smart people together, they just might solve all the world’s problems. Didn’t quite work out that way, so I’d agree that it has no real reason to keep existing anymore.

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  • 5too@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    At a guess? Smart people like validation too; and are just as vulnerable to manipulation that uses it. Potentially even more vulnerable, in fact.

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      As someone who doesn’t need to guess:

      It exists as a social club founded in eugenicist thought.

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  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    it’d make sense if it was just a club to help people be social, since high IQ and social difficulties tend to come together

    but no… they charge you to be part of it…

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• Pudutr0n@feddit.cl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  As a big booty latino I feel both interested and offended by this.

  Also, don’t take our big booty latinas pls. We need them for <reasons>.

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  • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Go find yourself an IQ 300 mensa nerd. They need you

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  • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m still wondering what mensa means… I thought it was a like a flat hill.

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    • Pudutr0n@feddit.cl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think it means table.

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    • 5too@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mesa is a flat hill.

      Mensa describes itself as a “High IQ Society”. Essentially, anyone who scores well on an IQ test can join, and they have plaques, membership cards, and such they give out. As far as I know, the whole point of Mensa is to say you’re smart enough to be in Mensa.

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    • BunScientist@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      mensa actually means dqmb in spanish!

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• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I wish I could remember the story but there was a guy that joined Mensa so he could con people. It worked too which rather seems to suggest that the entry requirements are not all that stringent.

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or IQ is a useless measure

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    • morphballganon@mtgzone.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or computational intelligence isn’t the same thing as skepticism

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    • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And over-identifying woth it is something arrogant shit heads who are easy to con do.

      Not me though. I’m better.

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    • buttnugget@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      IQ is absolute nonsense that tells you literally nothing about intelligence or anything of the like.

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  • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Isn’t mensa sort of a con itself?

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      IQ testing, argualy. Mensa is a social club that wants nerds to fuck nerds and make nerd babies

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  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think their entry requirements are doing exactly what they’re supposed to.

    The problem is that intelligence, even if we could measure it correctly, doesn’t and shouldn’t imply what a person knows, nor their experiences and the wisdom that they carry.

    Someone can be learned with a low IQ. Someone can be wise and similarly low IQ. In the same way, someone with a high IQ can be unwise.

    The problem with having only one individual metric for a group which believes themselves to compose the smartest people, is that they’re arrogant. I know plenty of people who are so extremely intelligent that I am certain that they could be a part of Mensa; yet, they are not. When they looked into it, they decided it would be unwise to become a member, given the requirements and the attitudes of, and about, the group.

    Hell, there’s a decent chance I could get in. I’ve never tried and I don’t care to, for all the same reasons, so I would never know if I could “make it” or not.

    Their arrogance and hubris is their undoing.

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    • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mensa is for people who grew up in gifted programs being told that they will achieve greatness just because of the one test they scored hight on, and then they amounted to nothing, so they need a place where they can tell each other that they are unsuccessful only because they are so much smarter than everyone else around them.

      High IQ people who manage to do something with their life usually have more to be proud of than an IQ test they took decades ago.

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  • hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you remember how that con was supposed to work?

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It was in an article about the real life incidents that influenced Terry Pratchett in the discworld series. So the con itself probably took place in the '80s or '90s, so quite a while ago. I can’t really remember if the article itself went into any details but I ended up looking into it myself because I thought it was funny that people in Mensa had been conned.

      I think it was some sort of timeshare scheme. The guy managed to sell timeshares in a property he didn’t in fact own, not a very sophisticated con really. The utter geniuses didn’t demand evidence that he actually owned the property before handing over cash.

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• spechter@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So, do they?

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  • Chivera@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Science still can’t figure it out

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  • theUwUhugger@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Iq is no measurement of objective intelligence but that of shape recognition, plus supposedly some other skills that they, the companies making IQ tests, actually made up

    Tho I reckon personality is often more important than looks, but I would find it irrealistic for anyone to dislike them

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    • foofiepie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      shape recognition

      Precisely why they would like big booty latinas.

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  • AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would say the verdict is a solid yes.

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  • Lvdwsn@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, we do

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• herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No, high iq people like big tiddy latinas.

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  • capt_wolf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • four@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ll consider this an IQ test and apply for Mensa

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• selokichtli@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t believe their supposedly high IQ otherwise.

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• MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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• moshankey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes. Yes we do.

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• artiman@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  if anyone wants the link https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/mensa/comments/1ci8rdx/do_ultra_high_iq_people_like_big_booty_latinas/

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• IWW4@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Don’t we all?

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• chunes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Apparently ultra-high-IQ people like to use comma splices too.

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• DancingBear@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s all relative. Define big.

  The bmi in rich nations is getting way too big.

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• nectar45@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The answer is yes

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• axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  safereddit.com/…/do_ultra_high_iq_people_like_big…

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• Mac@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What’s mensa

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• UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You other brothers can’t deny it

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• lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t think there is a correlation in either directed but I’m happy to be proven wrong

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• SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The answer is yes, we do

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