Capitalism is genocidal. End capitalism!
In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.
Submitted 1 day ago by als@lemmy.blahaj.zone to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I’m tired, boss
ramenbelly@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
SHOULD CHANT IT WHILE LOOTING LONDON
ramenbelly@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
UK , USA , who’s next ???
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Germany (AfD)
France (RN)
👀
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
They can take it to EU court. oops haha. This is why the elites pushed for Brexit. It wasn’t just to repatriate their money from Cayman Islands tax free. It’s so they can suppress anyone that doesn’t bend the knee.
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
The UK is still a party to the European Convention on Human Rights.
0x0@lemmy.zip 16 hours ago
Any major difference to the universal declaration on human rights?
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Let me refine: “Fuck the Israeli government!” I have no beef with the country / people insofar as they hate their genocidal government.
burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 1 day ago
i have bad news for you in regards to what israelis think about the genocide
parody@lemmings.world 20 hours ago
Really important distinction
Oh 99% (quite a bit less of course) of Israelis support genocide, then fuck Israel! No, you don’t throw babies out with bath water, even when they’re the worst and you’re mad as you should be.
Fuck any genocidal Israeli assholes, but Israel is too big to go blanket on them like this.
Why aren’t we antisemitic, b/c we know what words mean and we’re not antisemitic. Let’s talk like both those are true too.
Netanyahu should lick my pickled taint until he stops murdering kids
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 21 hours ago
insofar as they hate their genocidal government.
Recent polling shows only 19% of the Israeli population don’t support the genocide
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 day ago
insofar as they hate their genocidal government.
The one they continuously support and have for decades?
The only issue they have with Netanyahu is the corruption.
0x0@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
they hate their genocidal government.
Do they though? They’re brainwashed since kids at school and serving in the military is mandatory (both genders, very egalitarian), so i wonder what percentage is actually against and what are they doing.
dastanktal@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Look at the United Kingdom giving the United States a run for their money.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 23 hours ago
after brexit, nothing was ever the same, they fell for russian propaganda just like the US did, and us is basically going through the initial stages of “USEXIT”
oo1@lemmings.world 18 hours ago
After 1979 really, but more realistically the rot set in a bit earlier in the 70s when the banks were given the power to start cannibalising the economy and got away with blaming the damage on trade unions and OPEC.
Pretty similar timeline for US, i think more or less after JFK when they started destroying FDR legacy.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Really? That’s kinda fucked up. How did such a law actually get passed? Who assented to this shit?
MITM0@lemmy.world 1 day ago
There are terrorists in the Govt duh, that’s how.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Surely there is a typo in the headline, only Russia, land of the washing machine CPUs, puts people in jail for words.
Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 1 day ago
You cheer for censorship when it aligns with your beliefs. Yet call the slippery slope a “fallacy.”
See what happens?
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 day ago
Now that’s a good looking straw man.
timewarp@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This really is a big part of it. A lot of Democrats weren’t upset about authoritarianism & fascism, they were upset it wasn’t their version.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Can you give an example of what you mean?
I can think of people saying those who post misinformation that promote hate crimes should be held accountable. Aimlessly claiming trans people are pedophiles or saying you should lock up all 62,000,000 Latinos because of their ethnicity means they are automatically criminal shouldnt be promoted.
Those wants are for the same reason sites like Lemmy have rules. Is it because Lemmy is pro Authoritarians and Fascists? I don’t think so.
Freedom of speech was never the liberty to say anything, it was the ability to speak out against your government. If someone is publishing that lead paint can cause harm to the populace, it is in the best interest of the population and shouldn’t be censored, but if I am publishing that water based paints are causing cancer with no scientific backing of my claims because I run a oil based paint company, that information should be refuted and be held liable for impacts caused on water based paint companies.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Just because your argument is fallacious doesn’t mean the conclusion is wrong.
“Black people are hot therefore they should be treated equally” is an example that I can immediately come up with.
jimjam5@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I can sort of see the point you’re trying to make (as I too in a comment have called for censorship but in a different but very specific context), but I feel that you’re not exactly acknowledging the issue being discussed in this thread which is that people won’t be able to state their thoughts about the government of a country that is killing people en masse. It’s a moral position that should be easy to support: it’s wrong to ethnically cleanse a population of people.
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 1 day ago
A new activist group has popped up and called itself Yvette Cooper. Amazing stuff
Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 day ago
In 6 hours it will be illegal to be named "Yvette Cooper" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 hours ago
Probably not, since that’s the name of the UK Home Secretary who nominated Palestine Action to be designation as a terrorist group in the first place…
fox2263@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Sorry what
I was bad enough when Boris made protests illegal (did that ever go through) but this? This is disgusting.
How can Labour just do own goals day after day I do not know. At this point they’re just a continuation of the sad fucking state of Tory cabinets. From A team to B to D (was Rishi D? ) to fucking a big capital F with starmer. I had such high hopes for them in the first week. Such lofty promises. But they’ve consistently let me down on an actual weekly basis.
It’s incredible really.
Part4@infosec.pub 19 hours ago
It has been red tory v. blue tory since Blair took leadership in '93/'94.
It is more of less the same as the US (where it was red v blue republicans for a few decades and is now Republicans calling themselves ‘Democrats’ v. Christian Nationalist Fascists).
It is the natural continuation of Reaganite/Thatcherite neo-liberal capitalist ideology.
The outcome for the UK will be a lurch right as the poor vote for parties (Reform) who have used the immigration that has caused serious legitimate problems for poor communities that simply can’t afford to support them, and other cultural issues of various import they have been coerced into finding important, as wedge issues.
fox2263@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Yes I foresaw Reforms rise during the election and discussed at length how it’s highly likely they will win the next one.
It’s incredible how they’re able to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes. There’s a flag on someone’s fence round the corner from me. A giant union flag with a reform banner underneath saying make Britain great again or something to that effect. A play on the words of Great Britain.
I feel like I need to deface it but like how a teacher would mark wrong work. They will not do anything of the sort. They’re liars, charlatans and grifters pretending to be about the people.
They will reform government alright, but not in the way the people would want or need.
I grew up in the 90s and to me everything was truly great until 2012. And then Nick Clegg personally fucked me over with university fees, and that’s when I realised the current political landscape isn’t for us. It’s just for them.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 19 hours ago
Perfectly described. I am so ashamed that my vote gave us this. I did not expect greatness, just not Tory evil. How wrong I was.
echodot@feddit.uk 18 hours ago
The Tories would have done the exact same thing, so we’re not in any worse situation than we would have been.
OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
It started during covid, but nobody cared because the people being locked up were anti vaxxers. It didn’t stop there. It never does.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
Give us literally one example of someone being thrown in prison for expressing anti vax views, we’ll all wait.
OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
these guys got arrested, but not sure if they served jail time.
catty@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
There needs to be more discussion around separating the country of Israel from its dominate religion. So when people refer to the systematic murder organised by the country, it’s understood that it doesn’t make any reference to the Jewish people.
rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 hours ago
People who accuse anti israel occupation of being antisemitic know very well that it’s not the case
umbrella@lemmy.ml 22 hours ago
democracy
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Isn’t this the group that broke into a military airbase and damage several aircraft resulting in million of pounds worth of damages? I mean the security breach and the intent to maliciously damage the equipment is more than enough grounds to label the group as a terrorist group. If a right wing group or any other groups did this, everybody here would be calling them terrorists, and rightfully so. It makes sense for the UK to label this group as such, especially since they didn’t disavow the attack that happened.
The people who are trying to frame this as an attack on free speech are either full of shit and intentionally spreading misinformation or they’re ignorant enough to get their information from people who are full of shit and intentionally misinformation. This is something that clearly has nothing to do with free speech.
febra@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
No, damaging property doesn’t amount to terrorism. What world do you live in?
What most people understand as terrorism is the spreading of terror in the general population. Last time I checked, no one felt terrorized because some planes got spray painted.
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Yes it does. In the UK, terrorism is defined more broadly, and the actions of this groups fall firmly within their legal definitions, hence why they were so swift with this designation.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Make signs that say “I support ________ ______” and let the media fill in the blanks for you.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Death to Pissrael!!!
matlag@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
So, if they shut down and a new org called “Palestine Initiative” that happens to be coincidentally led by the same folks… all good?
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
If you’re serious, no, not all good. By UK law any organization led by the same people will automatically be labeled a terrorist organization.
LostWon@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Sultana somewhat marred that excellence earlier today by insisting on sticking to the line that the planes at Brize Norton were “connected” with flights over Gaza, which they were not. Sticking to that story makes it easier to discount their better reasoning.
sirico@feddit.uk 1 day ago
home sectary put it with neo-Nazis. You don’t want to back neo-Nazis, do you?
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
It may also be illegal to refuse to give over passwords for your devices. For trivial stuff this doesn’t apply but a terrorist group it likely does.
So remember to practice good data security.
hellfire103@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
15 minutes to go! If you’re gonna say it, be quick!
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
Freedom of speech anyone?
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
UK doesn’t have a “First Amendment”
Tbf, the US seems to be ignoring the First Amendment as well
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Ah it’s referring to a particular organization, Palestine Action
catty@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Is this really to appease Trump (maybe as part of the 10% tariffs)?
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Well. You’ll just have to write it somewhere. In paint perhaps. Maybe on a government building.
peteyestee@feddit.org 14 hours ago
1st worlds suck.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Is it Illegal to say
“It is illegal to say…
I support Palestine Action.”
?
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Flashback to…
parody@lemmings.world 20 hours ago
In the US don’t judges get to put on their reasonable person hat and see through little loopholes sometimes (obviously not always)?
Wonder about the UK, point is I’d only play around if I weren’t afraid of prison (I’m not strong enough to become a martyr for much of anything, pretty weak)
oo1@lemmings.world 18 hours ago
Back in the time after 9:11 they (the red coloured torys) passed some draconian anti-terror laws in the UK (well at least in England and Wales, I’m not so sure about Scotland and Norniron), basically no habeas corpus if the word “terrorism” is involved.
They were exactly worried that judges might put on a ‘reasonable person’ wig, or do something even more damaging to the free world like ask to see some evidence.