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In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.

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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨als@lemmy.blahaj.zone⁩ to ⁨aboringdystopia@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/04/ban-on-palestine-action-to-take-effect-after-legal-challenge-fails

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  • Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You cheer for censorship when it aligns with your beliefs. Yet call the slippery slope a “fallacy.”

    See what happens?

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    • jimjam5@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can sort of see the point you’re trying to make (as I too in a comment have called for censorship but in a different but very specific context), but I feel that you’re not exactly acknowledging the issue being discussed in this thread which is that people won’t be able to state their thoughts about the government of a country that is killing people en masse. It’s a moral position that should be easy to support: it’s wrong to ethnically cleanse a population of people.

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    • fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Now that’s a good looking straw man.

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    • timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This really is a big part of it. A lot of Democrats weren’t upset about authoritarianism & fascism, they were upset it wasn’t their version.

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      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Can you give an example of what you mean?

        I can think of people saying those who post misinformation that promote hate crimes should be held accountable. Aimlessly claiming trans people are pedophiles or saying you should lock up all 62,000,000 Latinos because of their ethnicity means they are automatically criminal shouldnt be promoted.

        Those wants are for the same reason sites like Lemmy have rules. Is it because Lemmy is pro Authoritarians and Fascists? I don’t think so.

        Freedom of speech was never the liberty to say anything, it was the ability to speak out against your government. If someone is publishing that lead paint can cause harm to the populace, it is in the best interest of the population and shouldn’t be censored, but if I am publishing that water based paints are causing cancer with no scientific backing of my claims because I run a oil based paint company, that information should be refuted and be held liable for impacts caused on water based paint companies.

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    • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just because your argument is fallacious doesn’t mean the conclusion is wrong.

      “Black people are hot therefore they should be treated equally” is an example that I can immediately come up with.

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  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I support Palestine action

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    • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The Fingers noticed, the Nose is after you.

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Righto chap, hop in the prison lorry then!

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    • HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m calling the rozzers

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  • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    home sectary put it with neo-Nazis. You don’t want to back neo-Nazis, do you?

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  • LostWon@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I was following this and was sad to hear about this happening despite excellent counterarguments from people like Zarah Sultana. At least there was this response yesterday (just watch the first ~45 seconds): Invidious | ~Youtube~

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    • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sultana somewhat marred that excellence earlier today by insisting on sticking to the line that the planes at Brize Norton were “connected” with flights over Gaza, which they were not. Sticking to that story makes it easier to discount their better reasoning.

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  • ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A new activist group has popped up and called itself Yvette Cooper. Amazing stuff

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    • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In 6 hours it will be illegal to be named "Yvette Cooper" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Probably not, since that’s the name of the UK Home Secretary who nominated Palestine Action to be designation as a terrorist group in the first place…

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  • logicbomb@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We’re also losing our freedom of speech in America, so we Americans can sympathize a bit.

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    • pdxfed@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’ve actually lost your citizenship for that Thoughtcrime. Have fun in El Salvador. -people who will only stop when met with violent force

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      • ExploitedAmerican@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They just passed an “assault weapons ban” in my stare that has super low gun violence rates, and bans anything with a magazine, picatinny rails, forward grips, just ridiculous shit. Only 10 Republicans (the party pretending to be all for gun rights) voted against it which shows this is a concerted effort to disarm leftists and prevent us from arming ourselves while fascism breaks out in the usa and the two largest growing groups of gun owners are currently LGBTQ people and women of color. So yeah let’s concentrate weapons in the hands of police who are involved in every 1 Of twenty firearm homicides. As well as rich people and their paid mercenaries (thugs) it’s a great time to be an American

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  • mhague@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nonviolent direct action has earned them the label “terrorists.”

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    • NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      When the sentence is the same for non-violent protest and for actual terrorism, don’t be surprised if things get more extreme quickly.

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    • nothingcorporate@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just more newspeak, like Trump calling everything he posts online “truths” while being nothing but lie after lie.

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      • floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The Ministry of Truth -> MiniTrue

        Truth Social -> 💩💨

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    • zarathustra0@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “The closer the collapse of the Empire, the crazier its laws are.”

      Marcus Tullius Cicero

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      • olafurp@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Cicero was world class complainer after all.

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      • Quik@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Grrrrr, he very likely didn’t say that.

        The closest to it I could find is “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws” by Tacitus (The Annals of Imperial Rome).

        Cicero lived at the end of the republic, his problem wasn’t too many laws…

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  • sik0fewl@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Codifying your genocide support into law. Nice.

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    • jimmy90@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      if they promise to only paint things orange on military bases i think that’s ok

      we’ll take their word for it

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    • wheezy@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If there is ever justice for Palestine they trials will be short. These bastards are so proud of their support for genocide.

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  • Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I hate evil.

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