I have no issues at all, once a vid is running. Choosing a vid takes much longer these days though, because the goddam stupid fucking algorhythm serves up 95% slop these days. Already viewed vids, ones expressly blocked, “news” stories that are YEARS old, or those in weird foreign languages, make up most of the garbage I get offered…
Google is intentionally throttling YouTube videos, slowing down users with ad blockers
Submitted 9 months ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/streaming-video/google-throttling-youtube-adblock-users
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drhodl@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 9 months ago
ublockorigin etc… 5 second unnecessary delay, very annoying . that’s my experience
m3t00@lemmy.world 9 months ago
might be brain damaged but haven’t noticed a slowdown or seen any ads in occasional use.
Berlinblades@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I watch ad free, and screen off through the Brave browser. All good for now.
drhodl@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Same here, but do you notice how bad the algorhythm has become, at offering useful, interesting, or relevant vids…?
Berlinblades@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yes I have actually. I thought it was a trump thing. Like you watch one news item featuring him, then they push a hundred reaction videos of some guy playing newsman in his home.
vala@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Sample size one but I’m on Fedora with Firefox and uBlock. Not seeing any issues yet.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Same setup, same results. I do intentionally keep the resolution low though.
ikidd@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Same with Piped. Pinchflat downloads it so even if it were throttled when it fetches, it will play at local speeds
Turret3857@infosec.pub 9 months ago
I’m on Android w/ PipePipe & GrayJay and have been experiencing issues with videos loading a little then buffering for like 5 minutes
mondomon@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Same, using CleanTube.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Same on FireDragon with Garuda.
JATtho@lemmy.world 9 months ago
So this is it. The enshittification has reached slowlorris levels.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Aha I’m not crazy! There was about a week where YouTube videos were so slow and we mainly use SmartTube on the shield TV, the fucked up part is I pay for YouTube premium, I just like the UI and options available on SmartTube better then the default app.
It did seem to get better, so maybe they realized I fucking pay for this service.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Or it was just a weird network issue. A week is a long time, though.
FE80@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Freetube works pretty well, there’s a cat and mouse game with youtube changes though.
UltraBlack@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Remember when videos would buffer all the time on non-chrome browsers lol
Siresly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
I’ve noticed occasional “buffering” before playback starts through the past week or so. Takes like ten seconds before the video starts playing. Hasn’t been worse than that so far, knock on wood.
Youtube feels like an impossible service to actually compete with, whether through the enormous and complicated setup required or amassing creators/users. It’s basically a monopoly and it sucks. One will just have to resist Google’s bullshit using whatever means available for as long as possible.
dynamoMaus@feddit.org 9 months ago
Peertube is working on breaking the monopoly. I try to use it more.
Akasazh@feddit.nl 9 months ago
Still I prefer buffering over the inane noises of commercials
JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 months ago
Yeah, I’d genuinely rather watch whatever amount of seconds forced ads are of black, silent screen than see an ad. It sucks and is awkward, but whatever.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 9 months ago
Yeah, I run multiple ad-blockers and haven’t noticed any slowdown or other degradation.
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
I’ve noticed a lot of videos give me a still ad and make me click “skip” at the very start of videos through my ad blockers.
AlreadyDefederated@midwest.social 9 months ago
Shaper@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Is it possible to post the same video both to youtube and peertube without trouble? I wonder if this is prohibited cause I think many creators would mirror their content to peertube if they could.
mesamunefire@piefed.social 9 months ago
Very good news!!
Ekeagle@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Why aren’t you using another platform?
Grimtuck@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Because I don’t watch random videos, I watch people I’m subscribed to and they don’t exist on other platforms. I would love to switch, really. The very fact I’m on Lemmy tells you that I’m open to doing that kind of thing.
BoycottPro@lemm.ee 9 months ago
If the people you subscribe to are not ones who monetization is important you may want to consider reaching out to them and asking if they’d consider cross posting to PeerTube or another YouTube alternative. They may appreciate not putting all their eggs in one basket and reaching new potential fans.
dyc3@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Because YouTube is where shit happens dude. Yeah sure theres peertube and others, but frankly, nobody that people care about are uploading to them. Not to mention they don’t offer the monetization opportunities for creators that YouTube does.
Ad block and sponsor block and call it a day.
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Exactly. I dont mind a little extra buffering. I mostly watch things in 720 oe 1080, and I’ve barely noticed the change.
benjaminb@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
I didn’t know if I’m crazy or of YouTube is genuinely slow for me (with adblocker)
Turns out I was not crazy
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
I lean, you can never really rule it out…
dullbananas@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Daniel Suelo for CEO of YouTube!
catty@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m finding I’m using youtube less and less that I can’t actually remember the last time I used it for anything informative. Youtube has so much crap now.
Because of their monetisation scheme for content creators, it was profitable for creators to drag 15 mins of information out to one hour, and then to include shock faces as thumbs to get more clicks, and then to get more viewers just to watch a bit of the video as viewership dwindles into just mindlessly watching suggestions.
I feel sorry for those creators who have gone balls deep with youtube content and who have no “plan b”.
lemmyingly@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I think that says more about the channels you watch and your viewing habits. I enjoy STEM and STEM related channels; I don’t experience the same as what you’ve described.
Alenalda@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Revanced is fine so far
Leg@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Can confirm.
hefejefe@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Down with google
Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 months ago
And his stupid CEO specifically. I’ve yet to hear him pitch a good idea.
happydoors@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yo I pay for premium and it’s been fucking slow. Cancel my subscription? Guess I might need to.
scintilla@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
I had to turn off privacy badger and ublock for it to not be slow. It’s stupid I’m paying for the service to be ad free it should be ad free without complaints.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Your premium tier has been upgraded to the basic plan with ads at no extra charge for you yet, Dear Customer! Aren’t you happy?
whome@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
So it’s wait a few seconds and watch a black screen or watch a minute of ads? What a choice…
Reygle@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Then I suppose it’s a good thing they’re limiting non-premium users from using the “high bitrate” quality options?
^ that was sarcasm. HARSH sarcasm. With both middle fingers pointing toward a Google logo and spitting.
dil@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
yeah I had some blender visuals I made that only look good high quality because of the detail and it looks sick as my desktop wallpaper with hidamsri but horrible and blurry viewing it on youtube at the highest quality
buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m curious what people would prefer for revenue generation models. Just subscription fees? A lot of folks also seem resistant to that as well.
Coil@lemmy.world 9 months ago
There was a time where they only used banner ads. Or ads before the video and not in the middle. Honestly, if they had a cheap, no frills ad free sub, I’d pay for it.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That’s really interesting! Would you pay $8 for a no ads subscription?
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I would prefer a model that does not demand infinite growth, leading to ever declining quality and services. I would prefer a tech site that’s satisfied bringing in a comfortable and steady flow of profit.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 months ago
All decent people would. I meant within the bounds of treason and tyranny.
mesamunefire@piefed.social 9 months ago
Direct sponsoring has worked in the past with many open source projects (including lemmy.world). Could be closer to what Patreon does.
poloqualle@feddit.org 9 months ago
I would happily pay for yt premium, if that also meant that google does not violate my privacy and sell my data.
Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That’s my problem, you have to be logged in if you pay and that’s just more data for them to suck up. I watch not logged in. If I want to comment I use a different device.
SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
What they had like 10 years ago a couple ads here and there. Not 5 minutes ad 5 minutes ad 5 minutes ad 5 minutess ad.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Interesting. I didn’t think anyone was cool with any ads.
phantomwise@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
That’s a relief. I’ve been dreading the day when they introduce server-side adsm but it seems we’re not there yet 😅 I’m not sure what they think they’ll accomplish with this when it’s A LOT less painful than turning off your adblocker and dealing with the ads, though. Maybe they’re just trying random things to see what works.
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 9 months ago
A wild YouTube appeared!
Go, uBlock Origin!
Wild YouTube used Throttle!
It’s not very effective…
uBlock Origin used Evolve!
It’s super effective!
YouTube fainted!
JohneryCreatives@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This made me laugh. I wonder which one will prevail in the end
Banana@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Piracy always prevails
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
I watched videos on Newgrounds using dial-up
They are going to have to slow ad blockers by a lot for me to consider it slow
mesamunefire@piefed.social 9 months ago
My wife and I were discussing this. This isnt "slow" to us, its just a tiny bit inconvenient. We were used to the old AOL pictures taking a good minute or two to load.
We would get rid of Youtube before we get ads.
catty@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Ahh seeing images load line-by-line and you get excited as you can actually start to tell what the image is!
PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world 9 months ago
fine by me i listen to audio of videos i watch and i dont mind the lower resolution because it means im using less internet
oh_@lemmy.world 9 months ago
“Do evil.” Google’s official new slogan.
lud@lemm.ee 9 months ago
That’s true but I wouldn’t really classify this as evil.
Serving videos isn’t easy or cheap. It’s hard and expensive.
I obviously use an adblocker everywhere and so should you.
But saying that Google or anyone else is doing anything wrong by blocking adblockers is ridiculous. When they finally succeed, I will just accept that I finally lost after many many years. My usage of YouTube will likely go down substantially as well. Crying about it after you have used their service for free for YEARS, really makes no sense.
amju_wolf@pawb.social 9 months ago
They can get fucked. A while ago O was like you know what let’s give them money, seems only fair. So I finally subscribed, and then like a month later they sent me an email they’re raising the prices effective immediately - basically changing the deal on me without any delay.
So I unsubscribed, because fuck that.
More recently I looked into sharing the family plan with …my family, but it turna out they consider family only in a single household, and I’m not gonna try to give them money while also potentially having to prove how much of a family we are, so yeah…
Fuck them, either take my money when I’m actually trying, or I guess they didn’t need it that bad. I’m over YouTube, and would probably ditch it earlier than ever watching an ad there.
stellargmite@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You’re right, but also They get alot more from the deal than you acknowledge. The service has never been free. They already had a profitable model, and now they want even more. I call it evil, but in a sense it’s standard corporate behaviour.
xzot746@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Or “Might as well do EVIL”, what is anybody going to do about it, maybe make some noise but we just pay off TACO and we good.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 9 months ago
Been using revanced for months and haven’t noticed a difference other than no ads or sponsors on bigger channels.
Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
God damn American companies love fucking up everything for money!
elucubra@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
Just Americans?
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
American flavoured capitalism has poisoned the well.
VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Nestlé: I have done nothing wrong, ever, in my life.
sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Yeah the moment you open invidious on the same machine it stops. Curious huh.