It’s a good thing I’m patient when it comes to when the videos load. If they keep doing this, I’ll just find another platform. Nebula seems like it has the same types of videos I like to watch.
Of course, I can get into PeerTube as well.
Google is intentionally throttling YouTube videos, slowing down users with ad blockers
Submitted 2 months ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/streaming-video/google-throttling-youtube-adblock-users
Comments
Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 months ago
Yeah Peertube is awesome. It already scales very well with its tech. Its been growing too. I think its good to have multiple alternatives. Its a good free option.
Ultimately the platform is the last important part of watching a video. If the creators can get more $$/activity going somewhere else they will. It happened to Vimeo, it will happen to Youtube.
Siresly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
I’ve noticed occasional “buffering” before playback starts through the past week or so. Takes like ten seconds before the video starts playing. Hasn’t been worse than that so far, knock on wood.
Youtube feels like an impossible service to actually compete with, whether through the enormous and complicated setup required or amassing creators/users. It’s basically a monopoly and it sucks. One will just have to resist Google’s bullshit using whatever means available for as long as possible.
Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Still I prefer buffering over the inane noises of commercials
JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 month ago
Yeah, I’d genuinely rather watch whatever amount of seconds forced ads are of black, silent screen than see an ad. It sucks and is awkward, but whatever.
dynamoMaus@feddit.org 1 month ago
Peertube is working on breaking the monopoly. I try to use it more.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 month ago
Yeah, I run multiple ad-blockers and haven’t noticed any slowdown or other degradation.
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
I’ve noticed a lot of videos give me a still ad and make me click “skip” at the very start of videos through my ad blockers.
belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Grayjay :)
DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 2 months ago
YT’s blocked on it, at least on my end. Fuck you, Google.
CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 month ago
YT’s blocked on it.
Just tried it. It works.
lud@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Does grayjay rehost content from YouTube or are they using the YouTube backend for streaming video? I would be quite annoyed if anyone used my website as a host for content that’s being consumed on another website.
A few years ago (and to a lesser degree nowadays) you occasionally came across images which wouldn’t work if you “hotlinked” to them on another website. Images aren’t a huge deal anymore but video absolutely is.
toothpaste_ostrich@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Bless you.
yucandu@lemmy.world 2 months ago
uBlock Origin->gear icon (settings)->My Filters->add this line:
||googlevideo.com/videoplayback$xhr,3p,method=get,domain=www.youtube.comChivera@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Thanks I will try this
benjaminb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
I didn’t know if I’m crazy or of YouTube is genuinely slow for me (with adblocker)
Turns out I was not crazy
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
I lean, you can never really rule it out…
Alenalda@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Revanced is fine so far
Leg@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Can confirm.
farboo99@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ok so im not crazy. I was wondering why videos kept buffering every minute this past week.
rdri@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Wish they could use Gemini to generate ad clicks instead.
BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 months ago
I’ve got 500Mb fiber internet and YouTube refuses to stream above 360p unless i manually change it. Which each update becomes harder and harder to do as they hide the video quality button somewhere else.
tal@lemmy.today 2 months ago
If you use Firefox:
BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 months ago
I’m don’t having a functioning computer right now because i can’t afford even a used one. I’m just using the YouTube app on ny phone or tv
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 month ago
ublockorigin etc… 5 second unnecessary delay, very annoying . that’s my experience
vala@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Sample size one but I’m on Fedora with Firefox and uBlock. Not seeing any issues yet.
Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 month ago
I’m on Android w/ PipePipe & GrayJay and have been experiencing issues with videos loading a little then buffering for like 5 minutes
mondomon@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Same, using CleanTube.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Same setup, same results. I do intentionally keep the resolution low though.
ikidd@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Same with Piped. Pinchflat downloads it so even if it were throttled when it fetches, it will play at local speeds
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Same on FireDragon with Garuda.
Reygle@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Then I suppose it’s a good thing they’re limiting non-premium users from using the “high bitrate” quality options?
^ that was sarcasm. HARSH sarcasm. With both middle fingers pointing toward a Google logo and spitting.
dil@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
yeah I had some blender visuals I made that only look good high quality because of the detail and it looks sick as my desktop wallpaper with hidamsri but horrible and blurry viewing it on youtube at the highest quality
DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I feel like this has been happening for a while, but maybe it’s just that YouTube’s website is shite.
drhodl@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I have no issues at all, once a vid is running. Choosing a vid takes much longer these days though, because the goddam stupid fucking algorhythm serves up 95% slop these days. Already viewed vids, ones expressly blocked, “news” stories that are YEARS old, or those in weird foreign languages, make up most of the garbage I get offered…
Ekeagle@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Why aren’t you using another platform?
Grimtuck@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Because I don’t watch random videos, I watch people I’m subscribed to and they don’t exist on other platforms. I would love to switch, really. The very fact I’m on Lemmy tells you that I’m open to doing that kind of thing.
BoycottPro@lemm.ee 1 month ago
If the people you subscribe to are not ones who monetization is important you may want to consider reaching out to them and asking if they’d consider cross posting to PeerTube or another YouTube alternative. They may appreciate not putting all their eggs in one basket and reaching new potential fans.
dyc3@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Because YouTube is where shit happens dude. Yeah sure theres peertube and others, but frankly, nobody that people care about are uploading to them. Not to mention they don’t offer the monetization opportunities for creators that YouTube does.
Ad block and sponsor block and call it a day.
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Exactly. I dont mind a little extra buffering. I mostly watch things in 720 oe 1080, and I’ve barely noticed the change.
PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world 1 month ago
fine by me i listen to audio of videos i watch and i dont mind the lower resolution because it means im using less internet
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 2 months ago
As much as I hate dealing with their shenanigans, I can’t really blame them either. As long as I can get away with using an adblocker, I will - but honestly, YouTube gives me more value for free than a lot of services I actually pay for. I have no moral argument for why YouTube should let me watch videos for free, even though I like free stuff just as much as the next guy.
TerHu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
oh i absolutely can blame them, because they made a choice. either you take my money and respect my privacy, or you sell all of my data and won’t get my money. however you can’t sell all of my data and take my money, nono, f u alphabet, that’s not how this works.
Traister101@lemmy.today 2 months ago
I did not always use an ad blocker. Frankly my stance is they’ve made their bed, now they get to lie down in it. If it wasn’t for YouTubes ad quality being so poor I would have never bothered taking the 30 seconds it takes to install an adblock those 10 or so years ago
theneverfox@pawb.social 1 month ago
How about: they’re a major factor in the rise of post truth and in ruining the Internet. And in hacking democracy itself
Their control is endangering the human race. They’ve crushed countless innovations to keep a stranglehold on technology. They proactively helped fascists get into power
They don’t deserve to make ever increasing money off us. They’re not content creators - they’re bad stewards of a public forum they bought and expanded through monopolistic practices.
I’d say it’s not only moral to deny them ad revenue, I think watching their ads is a danger to society
squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 month ago
YouTube gives me more value for free than a lot of services I actually pay for
That’s the really annoying part.
I’ve been considering swapping to other services for a long time, but to follow the creators I want to follow I’d have to subscribe to Nebula and Floatplane and I’d still miss out on quite a few creators.
colonelsharki@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Is google’s company motto still ‘Don’t be evil’?
Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 2 months ago
They removed that from their official code of conduct in 2018.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Oh no! What will I—Video Downloader. I’ll just watch offline at my leisure.
the_abecedarian@piefed.social 2 months ago
buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m curious what people would prefer for revenue generation models. Just subscription fees? A lot of folks also seem resistant to that as well.
poloqualle@feddit.org 1 month ago
I would happily pay for yt premium, if that also meant that google does not violate my privacy and sell my data.
Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s my problem, you have to be logged in if you pay and that’s just more data for them to suck up. I watch not logged in. If I want to comment I use a different device.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I would prefer a model that does not demand infinite growth, leading to ever declining quality and services. I would prefer a tech site that’s satisfied bringing in a comfortable and steady flow of profit.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 month ago
All decent people would. I meant within the bounds of treason and tyranny.
SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
What they had like 10 years ago a couple ads here and there. Not 5 minutes ad 5 minutes ad 5 minutes ad 5 minutess ad.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Interesting. I didn’t think anyone was cool with any ads.
Coil@lemmy.world 1 month ago
There was a time where they only used banner ads. Or ads before the video and not in the middle. Honestly, if they had a cheap, no frills ad free sub, I’d pay for it.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s really interesting! Would you pay $8 for a no ads subscription?
mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 month ago
Direct sponsoring has worked in the past with many open source projects (including lemmy.world). Could be closer to what Patreon does.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 months ago
I can’t tell an honest difference between 1080p and 720p from across a room. On a monitor, sure, but I grew up in the 90’s. Anything 480 and above is tolerable to me.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Did you comment in the wrong place?
Your comment is talking about resolution, and the post is about YouTube throttling speeds, not resolution of videos.
I suspect you were trying to respond to a comment instead of making your own top level comment, though I’m not certain.
In any case, if the comment is in the wrong place, now you know. If it isn’t, well, it may help to know that it’s out of place thematically.
JATtho@lemmy.world 1 month ago
So this is it. The enshittification has reached slowlorris levels.
hefejefe@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Down with google
Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 month ago
And his stupid CEO specifically. I’ve yet to hear him pitch a good idea.
m3t00@lemmy.world 1 month ago
might be brain damaged but haven’t noticed a slowdown or seen any ads in occasional use.
Berlinblades@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I watch ad free, and screen off through the Brave browser. All good for now.
drhodl@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Same here, but do you notice how bad the algorhythm has become, at offering useful, interesting, or relevant vids…?
Berlinblades@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yes I have actually. I thought it was a trump thing. Like you watch one news item featuring him, then they push a hundred reaction videos of some guy playing newsman in his home.
dullbananas@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Daniel Suelo for CEO of YouTube!
phantomwise@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
That’s a relief. I’ve been dreading the day when they introduce server-side adsm but it seems we’re not there yet 😅 I’m not sure what they think they’ll accomplish with this when it’s A LOT less painful than turning off your adblocker and dealing with the ads, though. Maybe they’re just trying random things to see what works.
G4Z@feddit.uk 2 months ago
I’ve been using this
FE80@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Freetube works pretty well, there’s a cat and mouse game with youtube changes though.
freetubeapp.io