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Google is intentionally throttling YouTube videos, slowing down users with ad blockers

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mesamunefire@piefed.social⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/streaming-video/google-throttling-youtube-adblock-users

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  • Alenalda@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Revanced is fine so far

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    • Leg@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Can confirm.

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  • Xanthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I also think they slowed it down for firefox users.

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    • teft@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      If you get a user agent switcher and change your user agent for youtube to chrome then that slowing down goes away.

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      • JayGray91@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Wait I can do it just for YouTube? Never occurred to me. I'll have to look into this

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  • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ll wait.

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  • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So here’s what happened recently:

    • I opened the Google News widget on my Android phone, saw a Sponsored link, and found it interesting
    • Clicked on it, the link opened in Chrome, opening the googleadservices redirection thingummy
    • Took over 5 seconds to process the redirect
    • I exited the browser

    Guess who missed ad money?

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  • Aetherion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They cannot kill Adblocks, because if they would — a lot of html5 embedded YouTube videos would be coming worthless and so would youtube (discord for example)

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  • apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Good, kill your product

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    • Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I use adblockers, but I’m confused how this would hurt google if people using adblockers stopped using youtube.

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      • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Less views = less relevancy of the platform. For live streams they have always played second fiddle. For short videos there is even more competition. Just wait for China to open up Billie Billie or instead make a separate version for the west.

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  • Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Then I suppose it’s a good thing they’re limiting non-premium users from using the “high bitrate” quality options?

    ^ that was sarcasm. HARSH sarcasm. With both middle fingers pointing toward a Google logo and spitting.

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    • dil@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      yeah I had some blender visuals I made that only look good high quality because of the detail and it looks sick as my desktop wallpaper with hidamsri but horrible and blurry viewing it on youtube at the highest quality

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  • PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    fine by me i listen to audio of videos i watch and i dont mind the lower resolution because it means im using less internet

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  • belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Grayjay :)

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    • DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      YT’s blocked on it, at least on my end. Fuck you, Google.

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      • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        YT’s blocked on it.

        Just tried it. It works.

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      • lud@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Does grayjay rehost content from YouTube or are they using the YouTube backend for streaming video? I would be quite annoyed if anyone used my website as a host for content that’s being consumed on another website.

        A few years ago (and to a lesser degree nowadays) you occasionally came across images which wouldn’t work if you “hotlinked” to them on another website. Images aren’t a huge deal anymore but video absolutely is.

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    • toothpaste_ostrich@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Bless you.

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  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    HA! Jokes on them! I’m running a budget dell PC from 10 years ago! The PC itself is slower than any delays they cause! I’m talkin’ 3-5 minutes to load each video. Sometimes the whole PC freezes, and you need to unplug it. Sometimes the browser crashes right at the end, so you gotta relaunch the browser, and then wait 20 minutes for all the tabs to populate. Then you gotta end task on all the individual windows. Then you gotta reload just the tab you’re looking at, and THEN you can wait 5 minutes again.

    You think I’m even going to notice your 10 second delay?

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    • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      try to get a ssd from somewhere, that gives devices like yours a second life (and if you switch to linux it gets even smoother - sorry i couldn’t resisit)

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      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m running ZorinOS on an SSD.

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    • bassomitron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I know times are hard, but you could build/find a PC for <$300 that doesn’t run that badly. Hell, even a ~$150-200 tablet would be way better than that.

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  • dullbananas@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Daniel Suelo for CEO of YouTube!

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  • buttnugget@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m curious what people would prefer for revenue generation models. Just subscription fees? A lot of folks also seem resistant to that as well.

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    • poloqualle@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I would happily pay for yt premium, if that also meant that google does not violate my privacy and sell my data.

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      • Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        That’s my problem, you have to be logged in if you pay and that’s just more data for them to suck up. I watch not logged in. If I want to comment I use a different device.

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    • surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I would prefer a model that does not demand infinite growth, leading to ever declining quality and services. I would prefer a tech site that’s satisfied bringing in a comfortable and steady flow of profit.

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      • buttnugget@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        All decent people would. I meant within the bounds of treason and tyranny.

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    • SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What they had like 10 years ago a couple ads here and there. Not 5 minutes ad 5 minutes ad 5 minutes ad 5 minutess ad.

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      • buttnugget@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Interesting. I didn’t think anyone was cool with any ads.

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    • Coil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      There was a time where they only used banner ads. Or ads before the video and not in the middle. Honestly, if they had a cheap, no frills ad free sub, I’d pay for it.

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      • buttnugget@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s really interesting! Would you pay $8 for a no ads subscription?

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    • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Direct sponsoring has worked in the past with many open source projects (including lemmy.world). Could be closer to what Patreon does.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I saw something that might be this happening last week, but this week the videos are perfect and load normally; but the rest of the page is absolutely fucked. Like the “playables” section last night was tripping balls and looked like a slot machine as the entries randomly changed around at light speeds.

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    • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Ublock origin (if your using it) "fixed" the issue shortly after. Im convinced someone at google works on adblock lol. Probably not true but the timing was really fast.

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      • Steve@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Spy vs spy

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  • hefejefe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Down with google

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And his stupid CEO specifically. I’ve yet to hear him pitch a good idea.

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  • Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s a good thing I’m patient when it comes to when the videos load. If they keep doing this, I’ll just find another platform. Nebula seems like it has the same types of videos I like to watch.

    Of course, I can get into PeerTube as well.

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    • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yeah Peertube is awesome. It already scales very well with its tech. Its been growing too. I think its good to have multiple alternatives. Its a good free option.

      Ultimately the platform is the last important part of watching a video. If the creators can get more $$/activity going somewhere else they will. It happened to Vimeo, it will happen to Youtube.

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  • farboo99@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ok so im not crazy. I was wondering why videos kept buffering every minute this past week.

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  • rdri@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Wish they could use Gemini to generate ad clicks instead.

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  • yucandu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    uBlock Origin->gear icon (settings)->My Filters->add this line:

    ||googlevideo.com/videoplayback$xhr,3p,method=get,domain=www.youtube.com

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    • Chivera@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Thanks I will try this

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  • Opinionhaver@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    As much as I hate dealing with their shenanigans, I can’t really blame them either. As long as I can get away with using an adblocker, I will - but honestly, YouTube gives me more value for free than a lot of services I actually pay for. I have no moral argument for why YouTube should let me watch videos for free, even though I like free stuff just as much as the next guy.

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    • TerHu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      oh i absolutely can blame them, because they made a choice. either you take my money and respect my privacy, or you sell all of my data and won’t get my money. however you can’t sell all of my data and take my money, nono, f u alphabet, that’s not how this works.

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    • Traister101@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I did not always use an ad blocker. Frankly my stance is they’ve made their bed, now they get to lie down in it. If it wasn’t for YouTubes ad quality being so poor I would have never bothered taking the 30 seconds it takes to install an adblock those 10 or so years ago

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    • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      How about: they’re a major factor in the rise of post truth and in ruining the Internet. And in hacking democracy itself

      Their control is endangering the human race. They’ve crushed countless innovations to keep a stranglehold on technology. They proactively helped fascists get into power

      They don’t deserve to make ever increasing money off us. They’re not content creators - they’re bad stewards of a public forum they bought and expanded through monopolistic practices.

      I’d say it’s not only moral to deny them ad revenue, I think watching their ads is a danger to society

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    • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      YouTube gives me more value for free than a lot of services I actually pay for

      That’s the really annoying part.

      I’ve been considering swapping to other services for a long time, but to follow the creators I want to follow I’d have to subscribe to Nebula and Floatplane and I’d still miss out on quite a few creators.

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  • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ve got 500Mb fiber internet and YouTube refuses to stream above 360p unless i manually change it. Which each update becomes harder and harder to do as they hide the video quality button somewhere else.

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    • tal@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      If you use Firefox:

      addons.mozilla.org/…/youtube-video-quality/

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      • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’m don’t having a functioning computer right now because i can’t afford even a used one. I’m just using the YouTube app on ny phone or tv

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  • colonelsharki@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Is google’s company motto still ‘Don’t be evil’?

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    • Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They removed that from their official code of conduct in 2018.

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  • phantomwise@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s a relief. I’ve been dreading the day when they introduce server-side adsm but it seems we’re not there yet 😅 I’m not sure what they think they’ll accomplish with this when it’s A LOT less painful than turning off your adblocker and dealing with the ads, though. Maybe they’re just trying random things to see what works.

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  • DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I feel like this has been happening for a while, but maybe it’s just that YouTube’s website is shite.

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  • MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Oh no! What will I—Video Downloader. I’ll just watch offline at my leisure.

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  • the_abecedarian@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    https://joinpeertube.org/

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  • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I can’t tell an honest difference between 1080p and 720p from across a room. On a monitor, sure, but I grew up in the 90’s. Anything 480 and above is tolerable to me.

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    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Did you comment in the wrong place?

      Your comment is talking about resolution, and the post is about YouTube throttling speeds, not resolution of videos.

      I suspect you were trying to respond to a comment instead of making your own top level comment, though I’m not certain.

      In any case, if the comment is in the wrong place, now you know. If it isn’t, well, it may help to know that it’s out of place thematically.

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  • G4Z@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ve been using this

    skipcut.com

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  • criticon@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I had to allow a bunch of stuff in pihole because I wasn’t able to use Google flights or Google News and some functions in Gmail, the sites never finished loading

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    • PushButton@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You might need a little bit of degoogleizer.

      In a small dose, it eases the pain, but with the right treatment, your life will become yours again.

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  • RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I noticed this today

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  • leckiesock@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Clear cache

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No longer working for me on Firefox, Win11. Now what?

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      • leckiesock@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I have no answer. I’m almost 40 and could no longer care less about BabyTube. I’m now more interested in life and travelling. Long gone are the days where YT was interesting.

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