He still doesn’t understand how tariffs work…
Trump says a 25% tariff "must be paid by Apple" on iPhones not made in the US, says he told Tim Cook long ago that iPhones sold in the US must be made in the US
Submitted 10 months ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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doodledup@lemmy.world 10 months ago
toastmeister@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Isn’t he just saying that he will tariff them so they’re paying 25% more for manufacturing in a foreign country?
This is far left policy.
UndergroundGoblin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Step 1. Add Tarrifs. Step 2. Wait till the share price falls. Step 3. Buy in low. Step 4. Lift the tariffs again. Step 5. Wait till the share price rises. Step 6. Profit.
DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 10 months ago
If you think you can’t ever put stocks on a hot sale think again.
wanderwisley@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Tim Apple make your phones in America the king has spoken.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 10 months ago
lsibilla@lemm.ee 10 months ago
What about the components? Should they also be produced in the US?
Let’s be clear, producing the iPhone in the US would be more than a 25% cost increase.
UltraBlack@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Did trump just confuse a possessive s for a plural s?
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
That is the least of his linguistic faults.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
style errors are easily forgiven. study a foreign language or a programming language to get some empathy
suspending habeas corpus? he should be in so many heaps of trouble. the guillotine was a nasty, evil piece of work, and anyways
UltraBlack@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m not even a native speaker, so I think I’m allowed to criticise that
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It happens to people and I don’t know why
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 10 months ago
Autocorrect more likely
Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 10 months ago
People are looking to much into his Tax Bill and Crypto Dinners. They can’t pass legislation secretly in the dead of night if the media and public aren’t distracted by bullshit.
It hasn’t been half a year yet and the firehouse of chaos that is Trump is impossible to keep up with.
CSJDIA.
RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
gwilikers@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
This perfectly sums up the shortfalls of Trumpian populism in the face of Late Stage Capitalism.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
This past Monday, John Stewart of The Daily Show interviewed Patrick Mcgee who discussed the jaw-dropping amount’s of money Apple spent building out Chinese electronics supply chains. -It makes for an interesting case if true.
0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
On that note, I suspect that a 25% tax is cheaper by far than the cost of building out state of the art silicon fab on US soil, plus the additional cost of paying Americans to do the manufacturing/assembly. Would you rather buy an iPhone for $1250 or $4000?
NutWrench@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Once again. Companies do NOT pay tariffs. They pass on those costs of those tariffs to their customers. YOU are gonna pay that extra 25% not Apple.
slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It’s extremely misleading to say “companies do not pay tariffs” and then immediately explain that companies do indeed pay tariffs.
Doorbook@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Still there is another side of it that also interesting. These companies has done their calculations so the cost of the product is perfect. Increasing that price means less people will buy the product.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Increasing that price means less people will buy the product.
Unless your competitors are also facing the same forced price increase.
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Unless the companies eat the tariffs. But greedy companies will pass them on
DaneGerous@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Is it only tariff costs that are passed on to employees and customers or are all corporate tax costs passed on to employees and customers?
Obi@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
At the end of the day it’s all of it. Some of it is built into their existing model, some of it is constant etc but they include it all in the calculations to come up with the prices. New costs like these tariffs get added to the overall margin calculation and a new price is set.
DicJacobus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
how long is it going to take, before you realize its too late? if they didn’t realize by now, they aren’t going to
Soulg@ani.social 10 months ago
Trump will never ever admit he’s wrong, but I’m curious how the voters will react when everything costs 50% more all of a sudden.
They’ll probably blame Biden somehow, but I’m curious still
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
that’s fine. iphones are so cheap, people can handle even 50% tariffs. apple is worth every penny /s.
going to buy a cmf phone 2 now…
nednobbins@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Yeah. I’m typing this on a $300 Chinese phone with 10600mAH battery, reverse wireless charging, a thermal imaging camera, and it’s waterproof and shock resistant.
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This isn’t about making Apple make iPhones in the US. This is a 25% tax on everyday Americans that the fascists will blame on Apple for not making iPhones in the US and use to give tax breaks to the rich. Trump and his cabal are reverse Robin Hooding the American people and 70 million of them are lining up to lick his boots for it.
Noodle07@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The US is turning into my games of stellaris a little bit more everyday. Oh boy you sure dont want to be in my games of stellaris guys.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You know that is somewhat true. What everyone could see when I was kid has come to pass. The people like trump and the actual billionaires in this country sold us out then. They sold us out by moving all the manufacturing offshore. Now these same greedy trash humans want all that back since they have realized that the ability to manufactures products was the United States real power. They delivered millions of my parents generation into poverty and wage slavery to make a buck by moving the job overseas. Now these horrible people and their followers are doing the same thing to try to get it back. They don’t understand nor do they care about the real people in this country. Only about themselves.
Their followers who are not profiting from this must be really, really stupid.
aceshigh@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The reason why manufacturing was moved offshore was because it cost more money to produce the goods in the states and they had to adhere to us regulation. Products are cheap because they’re build offshore. No one actually wants the factory jobs back in the states because they’ll be too expensive to produce, and a lot of the jobs will be done by bots anyway. If the iPhone was the be built in the states it would cost $3.5k. Billionaires want a peasant class. They’re envious of China - lots of low educated people earning nothing working long hours. Billionaires have low self esteem.
DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 10 months ago
Their followers who are not profiting from this must be really, really stupid.
And they’re the ‘good’ ones!
Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 months ago
He still has absolutely no clue how tariffs work. Amazing for someone who throws them left and right without thinking. Although the latter might explain it.
slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 10 months ago
What does he not understand correctly here?
Salamand@lemmy.today 10 months ago
The worst take from his opposition: “trumps such a dumb idiot”. And it’s why the left gets out-maneuvered; they imagine those on the right as only either 1. Imbeciles 2. Racists.
The right sees the left as cunning, and strategizes how to outplay them.
The left sees the right as backwards morons, and strategizes how to insult them. It seems to be the main play, and is doing him a favor by shutting down closer examination.
Soulg@ani.social 10 months ago
Trump is a demented moron who has no fucking idea what’s going on.
His faceless staff, led by Stephen Miller, are very smart and know exactly what they’re doing.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 10 months ago
It blows my mind when people say he has a reason for his tarriffs and it’s about enrichen his friends. He’s braindead and tarriffs is just the new word he learned. Tim Apple is gonna be mad.
vala@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I wonder if he knows apple simply can not comply with this. Apple doesn’t know how to make iPhones (at the scale and rate needed) and no one in the US does either.
RIP
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Well, technically, any kind of tariff added to the import is always paid by Apple, who else would pay it? Some unrelated company? A foreign country?
They will simply increase the price by an amount that will keep them making the same amount of money. The main problem is that because they like to do a round price worldwide, we European we’ll pay more too, so they can make more money. Assholes
Iambus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Then don’t buy it duh.
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 10 months ago
If Apple can push the price further into the thousands won’t Samsung, etc follow anyway?
People thought a phone that was $1000 would never sell, Apple came out with the pro models and now here we are with the high end models all being a thousand plus.
SoGrumpy@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Don’t buy Apple. Problem solved. I will not accept arguments about ‘but the eco-system blah-blah’
Sticks Fingers in ears lalalalalala
Flukas88@feddit.it 10 months ago
We can always respond with our money and not buy an iPhone
Nocomment@reddthat.com 10 months ago
An extra 25% must be paid by consumers. Like every other tariff. New taxes be like that.
Inucune@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And knowing the cult of Apple, they’ll pay it because it makes them look wealthy. That is the whole culture of Apple Customer base.
AA5B@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And if similar is on every phone? You can’t really do without a phone so at that point, it’s 25% inflation.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
“A fool and his money will soon be parted.”
ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 10 months ago
'What’s up, everybody? This is your boy Apple Lad, and I came through with one of those Tariff I Phones, just so I can unbox it for you!
Primax@lemmy.world 10 months ago
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Tbf the labor will be done by the minorities and undesirables they will keep throwing in prison without due process
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 10 months ago
along with the poor white folk who voted for him.
That sounds like a nice mix where nothing terrible could happen. Tons of black and brown people surrounded by the poor white rural idiots that disenfranchised both of their lives.
And009@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
Made in India + 25% tariff is still cheaper than made in Murica.
That BS is just for media.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 10 months ago
And it’s actually usable.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 10 months ago
What a fucking idiot
foodconsumer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
iPhones not iPhone’s… Who let this idiot be in charge of anybody? Did he even go to school?
foodconsumer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
& Just that entire sentence is atrociously bad
embed_me@programming.dev 10 months ago
Thank your for your attention to this matter!€
foodconsumer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
LMFAO it’s the entire fucking tweet!! Thank your for your… omg you are the president of the united states get grammarly or something you sound even dumber than the people who votes for you
carlossurf@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Good fuck apple they probably donated to trump
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
This won’t hurt apple one bit. They will pass the cost on t to American consumers. This is a 25% tax on everyday Americans to pay for the billions of dollars of tax cuts for the rich.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 months ago
They did, or at least Tim Cook did.
Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
This is what you get for bending down to the tyrant in inauguration day. You cant appease tyrants, you must fight them.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Failed business man telling people how to run their businesses
k0e3@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
Such smol govment
Litebit@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It is paid by consumers, not Apple. Other phone companies will raise prices as well to increase their profits, since iPhone prices will set a new high price.
tartarin@lemm.ee 10 months ago
This is actually a real socialist or even communist policy. The State controlling the businesses.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 10 months ago
[deleted]tartarin@lemm.ee 10 months ago
So, socialism doesn’t exist according to your definition since nowhere on this planet workers control shit.
Ask former Soviet workers, Chinese workers, Cuban workers, North Korean workers and Vietnamese workers how much control on production they have.
pogmommy@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
How in god’s name is this promoting worker ownership of Apple’s phone production processes?
tartarin@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Last time I looked, the Soviet, Chinese and North Korean people didn’t own shit.
MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It is authoritarian. Communist system devolve to authoritarianism because it is a natural progression (easy to do). Socialists can, but a good democratic political structure makes it harder.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Apparently capitalist systems devolve into authoritarianism; as evidenced by living in 2025.
13igTyme@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Don’t tell all the tankies.
Vari@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It would take MINIMUM 10 years to even come close to like 60% manufactured in US. And that’s assuming the US upends the entire global tech industry by coming even kind of close to TSMC’s chip manufacturing tech.
nulluser@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Who does he think he’s talking to?
cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Tim Apple could just buy him a fucking plane and be done with it.
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Killing Biden’s CHIPs act certainly didn’t help that cause.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 months ago
iPhones made outside US: bad
MAGA hats and swag made in China: art of the deal