cross-posted from: slrpnk.net/post/22132981
The photograph that says it all. Let’s remember Elon Musk for the Nazi that he is.
Submitted 3 weeks ago by AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today to technology@lemmy.world
cross-posted from: slrpnk.net/post/22132981
This photo is taken out of context, though. I mean, he slapped his chest before the salute, and he did it twice in a row… Ah shit nevermind, he’s a Nazi.
The hand on his heart really does make you think twice about the meaning though, just like it did with that other guy.
You had me for a second there bud.
he doesnt look commited to it though, because hes doing the lip sucking thing that children do when they are unsure if they will get a bad reaction from it.
Gee, that’s too bad. I do Nazi the problem.
They have a lot of problems … they’re about this high … raises right hand up on the air palm down
If nobody wants them, then they are worth $0.
You could definitely sell those for more then $0. The batteries alone aren’t cheap.
So somewhere inbetween as the article says “more than 10,000 units” and “$800m” so they appear to be valuing them at ~$80k/unit which is ridiculously optimistic.
My guess is closer to 1/3rd of that value but nobody likes to lose half a billion in the blink of an eye
I was debating if I’d be willing to take a free cybertruck, your comment reminded me i could take it straight to the scrap yard
Jokes on you, I’d pay $1 for the lot.
Prepare to pay a $200m fine for littering.
They’re worth something as scrap, I’m sure.
Next week: US Department of Defence announces purchase of fleet of Cybertrucks.
That’s just ridiculous. To spend money to remove infrastructure, out of hidden spite.
Already in the works:
State Dept. Plans $400 Million Purchase of Armored Tesla Cybertrucks
Can’t wait to see how well it works to glue armored panels on.
If nobody wants them… they are not worth that amount. simple economics.
supply and demand…
I know i would get made fun of for this but a good price is a good price. I would pay $15,000 for one. I think most people would.
You could rip the batteries out of them and use them for a solar setup. The rest could be sold for scrap.
I would pay $15,000 for one.
I would pay $15k for a better vehicle. I’m not getting in The Truck That Kills You Instantly.
I would totally take one for 15k (only if its used, never from tesla itself) take the batteries out, sell those and put the frame on a truck and drive it out to an event or protest and let people smash whats left. Let people rent a sledge hammer for a bit and vent, would be a fun and very public statement. Once thats done sell it as scrap. The batteries should alone should cover the next one.
$15000 is rookie numbers.
I can offer $150 for one!
yeah, for $15k USD I could buy an old Ranger or B3000 and have 5-10 years worth of fuel
cyber truck is a hard sell
This is exactly right. They’re worthless if nobody is willing to pay what’s being asked.
So what they’re “worth” is nothing.
“$800m”… If nobody wants them, they’re not worth anything.
If those 5 trucks had feelings they would be hurt
it cost them something to make…they arent completely valueless
Scrap metal. I’ll give them $100 if they run, $50 if I have to tow it.
There is such a thing as the whole being less than the sum of its parts.
Certainly they mean MSRP.
But think of all the time that was spent to create them! /s
You know, by stock market logic, this would mean they aren’t actually worth $800m
If the stock market had anythign to do with logic Tesla wouldn’t be worth more than all other car manufacturers combined
Bag holders.
Stock market logic, sell one cybertruck for $1m and your whole inventory is now worth 10x
They’re only worth what someone would be willing to pay for them. What’s the scrap value on a cybertruck?
Simple economy actually. Supply exceeds demand, value on the market is lower.
On the stock market, you can do all kinds of fuckery to gain from this.
I am expecting them to end up as ICE technicals, used to hunt down dissidents like…checks notes…American citizens, children, and the elderly.
So your saying one will be able to avoid ICE by simply escaping on days when its raining?
Or, by running through sand or mud!
My pet conspiracy theory has been that Elmo was hoping Trump would mandate that everything gov related has to drive Teslas.
That’s definitely plausible.
Finally some good news
Boom, tardigraded!
Cybertrucks are just sitting around, waiting for someone to officially label them the DeLorean of the 21st century.
Hey! You take that back! DeLoreans were always cool cars. Their demise wasn’t due to lack of popularity, the company just had problems getting established, and ultimately didn’t survive its initial growth phase.
Nobody despised the DeLorean, or it’s owner. They just ran out of money, and he tried a desperate Hail Mary play, that didn’t work.
Their demise was absolutely due to lack of popularity. In December '81 they had produced 7,000 units and sold 3,000. I’d argue that they failed for the same reason Fiero did – they looked like a sports car but were not. Top speed was 110mph. 0-60 time was 10.5 seconds. It had a V-6 that put out 130hp in a car with a curb wt of 2700 lbs. 0-60 time was measured at 10.5 seconds. To put that in perspective, about the same as a 99 Ford F-350 Super Duty Crew Cab 4x4 Dually or 73 LTD Brougham. There are virtually no modern cars that run 0-60 that slow. A 2024 5.3l Suburban has a time of 7.0
In addition, they had numerous quality control problems. This in a car that retailed for $25k or the rough equivalent of $86,000 in today’s dollars. While it’s probably true that nobody despised the car, it was not a good car. They were definitely cool sitting in a parking lot but getting spanked by a 1980 Chevy Citation (0-60 10.3) is not a good look
The cybertruck is on a different scale of unpopularity.
Nobody threw Molotov cocktails at Delorians.
Holy moly those specs are remarkably similar to my 1st generation Prius.
I’m not saying you are wrong in anything you state, and you make good points.
And yes you are probably right that the shortcomings compared to what was promised is the main reason sales didn’t go as expected.
But I think you don’t see it the same way as barneypiccolo you responded to.
Wasn’t the DeLorean design pretty iconic from the beginning? The fact that there are still 2/3rds of the cars built on the road now 44 years later does speak volumes to its favor IMO. Those were not cars that were bought, found insufficient and then scrapped. But instead have been maintained despite DeLorean hasn’t been around to supply spare parts.
Also the fact that the car had such a central role in the Movie Back to the Future, because it was simply such a cool car despite it’s flaws, what other car could they have used for similar effect?
Imagine trying to do that with the Cybertruck! The Cinema would most like burst out in laughter from claiming doing anything with a Cybertruck would be to do it in “Style” as Emmet Brown expressed it. It would clearly be seen as a fat joke on how stupid the car is and looks.
So no the car wasn’t popular enough in sales for the number of cars DeLorean built, but it was never an unpopular atrocity like the Cybertruck is.
How dare you disparage the amazing Fiero!
getting spanked by a 1980 Chevy Citation (0-60 10.3) is not a good look
[Citation needed]
Their demise wasn’t due to lack of popularity, the company just had problems getting established, and ultimately didn’t survive its initial growth phase.
Hm, I thought their demise was due to them arbitrarily going back in time.
FUCK I accidentally hit 88mph again. I’m going to be REALLY early to dinner…
I’d fucking love to have a DeLorean; they’re bad cars but that’s where the similarities to the Cybertruck end. They’re just cool.
Yeah and at least they’re creator had a cool story.
Yeah, he was a larger than life character, and the end of the company was spectacular. Most companies end with a whimper, his ended with an explosion.
I have a little personal anecdote about the end of DeLorean Motor Cars. At the end, I was living in Cleveland, OH, where DeLorean’s brother had a Cadillac dealership, which also sold DeLoreans, of course.
When the company crashed, the government, or the bank, or the court, or somebody, was coming to take all the cars that were sitting in the factory parking lot in Detroit. The local news caught a helicopter shot of a long line of DeLoreans driving out of the lot, and down the road in a long line. They didn’t bother to follow them.
A few days later, it was reported that all the surplus DeLoreans were missing, and DeLorean was hiding them somewhere, and they showed the footage of the cars driving off.
A few days after that, I was taking one of my favorite shortcuts through Lakewood, the suburb where DeLorean Cadillac was located. My shortcut was a small road/alley, with far less traffic and lights, which went behind the businesses along the main road.
One of those businesses was DeLorean Cadillac, with a big parking lot behind the dealership. I’d passed that lot many times, and it was always a mix of Caddys and DeLoreans, but this time I saw that it was FULL of nothing but DeLoreans, packed in like sardines. I had no doubt that these were the missing DeLoreans that the authorities were searching for.
So, of course I notified the authorities where they could find the cars, right? Fuck NO. DeLorean didn’t seem like a bad guy, just a major dreamer who got desperate. I always kind of admired him. So I kept my mouth shut, and made the authorities find the cars without my help.
$800 Million Worth of Cybertrucks
Cybertrucks aren’t worth the glass of the molotovs that ignite them.
Worth and cost are not synonyms.
It’s funny. They target people who burned the trucks, but insurance claims are probably their best chance to get paid for the trucks.
Until insurers decide they’re too expensive to cover.
Light em up!
except the insurance might not even cover these, or they make the coverage cost extremely high.
Fuck Tesla. No bailouts for Nazis.
“nobody wants” or 60% of Americans can’t afford basic living expenses?
Correction. They are worthless. lol.
Wait, now it’s only $700 million. $400 million. $34 million… And it’s $6.50.
Yeah, I guess there is someone out there who would buy a fleet of dumpster cares for $6.50.
Can someone explain how the demographic of people who loved to park their gas guzzlers to purposefully block tesla charging stations are now Musk fanboys all of a sudden?
Time to bury them in the desert right beside the ET Atari cartridges.
Is that price at full retail price or cost of parts. Either way, sounds like someone misjudged the market by a lot and needs to be ejected from their CEO role.
$800 million worth is giving a lot of value to something they can barely give away. Maybe $800K worth of material after the cost of dismantling.
Actually saw a Tesla with a Trump/Vance sticker on it today. I was already at 92% hate for Tesla. Thanks for making that 100% today stranger.
Strip out the bad stuff and drop them in the ocean and they can become reefs for fishies and their buddies?
maybe they should try making their cars not ugly as sin
I want to drive one into a brick wall. Not with me in it or anything. I figure I could do it just by setting it to auto-drive into a painting of a tunnel Looney Tunes style.
I wonder if people don’t want the truck because of its design or the association with Elon more.
Just send them to Africa with the next batch of hats and t-shirts of whoever doesn’t win the NBA finals
I would pay 10 bucks to use them in my survival kit as a fire starter.
I think its crazy that they made $800 mil worth of these cars. Who the hell thought they would sell well?
Elon underestimated how willing people were to buy a truck from a nazi.
ccunning@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“$800 million worth”?
“Nobody wants”?
Sounds like creative accounting…
db2@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They tried that in Canada and got caught. They’ll get a free handy for doing it in the US under Tump though.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s what Trump’s big legal battle with New York was about - lying about the value of a penthouse or something.
So much of these “rich” fuckers wealth is on paper.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
I have $800M worth of lint in my belly button, apparently
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Except these actually have value as scrap especially in the batteries.
NatakuNox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yup. Their boss controls the IRS. They’ll write them off, get a bailout check, and sale the remaining trucks to the US military. Triple dip the American tax payer.