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- Comment on Lutris now being built with Claude AI, developer decides to hide it after backlash 2 days ago:
I think the simple fact is that some of the people in this thread don’t understand is that the people they’re asking to vet the code don’t know how.
I haven’t coded anything since the 90’s. I know HTML and basic CSS and that’s it. I wouldn’t have known where to start without guides to explain what commands in Linux do and how they work together. Growing up with various versions of Windows and DOS, I’d still consider myself a novice computer user. I absolutely do know how to go into command line and make things happen. But I wouldn’t know where to start to make a program. It’s not part of my skill set.
Most users are like that. They engage with only parts of a thing. It’s why so many people these days are computer illiterate due to the rise of smartphone usage and apps for everything.
It’d be like me asking a frequent flyer to inspect a plane engine for damage or figure out why the landing gear doesn’t retract. A lot of people wouldn’t know where to start.
I fully agree that other coders on the internet who frequent places like GitHub and make it a point to vet the code of other devs who provide their code for free probably should vet the code before they make assumptions about its quality. And I fully agree that deliberately stirring shit without actually contributing anything meaningful to the community or the project is really just messed up behavior.
But the way I see it there’s two different groups and they have very different views of this situation.
The people who can’t code are consumers. Their contribution is to use the software if they want, and if it works for them to spread by word of mouth what they like about it. Maybe to donate if they can and the dev accepts donations.
If those people choose to boycott, it’ll be on the basis of their moral feelings about the use of AI or at the recommendation of the second group due to quality.
The second group are the peer reviewers so to speak and they can and should both vet the code and sound the alarm if there’s something wrong.
I suppose there’s a third subset of people in the case of FOSS work who can and often do help with projects and I wonder if that is better or worse for the reasons listed in the thread like poorly human written code and simple mistakes.
Humans certainly aren’t infallible. But at least they can tell you how they got the output they got or the reason why they did x. You can have a rational conversation with a human being and for the most part they aren’t going to make something up unless they have an ulterior motive.
Perhaps breaking things down into tiny chunks makes AI better or it’s outputs more usable. Maybe there’s a 'sweet spot".
But I think people also get worried that what happens a lot is people who use AI often start to offload their own thinking onto it and that’s dangerous for many reasons.
This person also admits to having depression. Depression can affect how you respond to information, how well you actually understand the information in front of you. It can make you forget things you know, or make things that much harder to recall.
I know that from experience. So in this case does the AI have more potential to help or do harm?
There’s a lot to this. I have not personally used Lutris, but before this happened I wouldn’t have thought twice about saying that I’ve heard good things about it if someone asked me for a Heroic launcher style software for Linux.
But just like the Ladybird fork of Firefox I don’t know that I feel comfortable suggesting it if this is the state of things. For the same reason I don’t currently feel comfortable recommending Windows 11 or Chrome.
There are so many sensitive things that OS’s, and web browsers handle that people take for granted. If nobody was sounding the alarm about those, I feel like nothing would get better. By contrast, Lutris isn’t swimming in a big pond of sensitive information but it is running on people’s hardware and they should have both the right to be informed and the right to choose.
- Comment on Lutris now being built with Claude AI, developer decides to hide it after backlash 3 days ago:
There’s a problem with that. The vast majority of Linux users are probably more tech savvy than average but I’d wager not all of them or even the vast majority have the skills to vet the code.
Lots of the people in the gaming space who are having Lutris suggested/recommended to them are not going in to check that code for problems. They install the flatpak on move on with their lives.
It appears (from what I’ve read which isn’t necessarily the end all be all) that the people taking exception to the use of AI to code Lutris are doing so because they do decompile and vet code.
My understanding is that it’s harder to get AI code in general because when it hallucinates it may do so in ways that appear correct on the surface, and or do so in ways that don’t even give a significant indication of what that code is attempting to do. This is the problem with vibe coding in general from my understanding and it becomes harder and harder even for senior code engineers to check the output because of the lack of a frame of reference.
You’re asking people who don’t have the skills to ignore people who do have the skills who are sounding the alarm.
I get that this person is a single person writing code and disseminating it for free. I get that we should be thankful for free and open software. I fully understand why this person might use AI to help with coding.
I understand that they are upset about the backlash. But that was a very much foreseeable consequence of the credits they gave the AI (a choice they made), and honestly the use of AI (which might have been called out later on if they hadn’t credited it).
They shot themselves in the foot with the part of their response that was flippant and a “fuck you” to anyone who might find the use of AI concerning.
There’s also the fact that AI is something that a lot of people in the Linux community at large seem to already be boycotting and boycotting derivatives of it make sense.
Just because you create something for free doesn’t mean people have to use it. Or that people aren’t free to boycott it.
- Comment on Drivers in fatal Ford BlueCruise crashes were likely distracted before impact | TechCrunch 3 days ago:
I mean. Ford’s blue cruise isn’t supposed to marketed as self driving and it gives active warnings, including when you take your hands off the wheel to prevent you from trying to use them as a self driving equivalent where you aren’t paying attention.
I agree that these features that are ostensibly to make driving safer are invasive and that they are being abused by people who do not take the warnings into affect or use them the way they are intended to be used, and I personally hate blue cruise.
I also agree that blue cruise enabled vehicles also have some pretty significant distractions included like giant touch screens and so on.
But I don’t think it’s fair to lable them as self driving when the company doesn’t do that (looking at you Tesla who has repeatedly had to walk back such marketing claims).
Do I think blue cruise is a good product? No. Do I think it makes driving safer? Debatable as I’m sure that in some cases it can do that. Do I think it’s a self driving system? No because it’s not. It’s basically just intelligent cruise control and lane keeping assist.
- Comment on Generative AI Use Among Game Developers Falls to 29% in 2026, Survey Shows | Outlook Respawn 4 days ago:
Because of the backlash from gamers/consumer/the general public, or because it was detrimental to the production of their product?
- Comment on Valve Sued By The Performing Rights Society Over Music Rights in Games Valve Doesn’t Make or Own 4 days ago:
I’m with you so far, but I question how that’s still not the publisher’s fault and their liability.
The main reason is because it seems that when the publisher puts the game up for sale on steam, that entity chooses whether or not to add game play data including music and trailers. So they are choosing to give that information to Valve and giving Valve permission to use it. Which means they are the ones who don’t have the legal ability per their license to do so but did so anyway.
The best I could say for this lawsuit with those facts is that Valve is guilty of taking their word for it that they were legally allowed to use the posted video or audio in that way.
If I license something and my license includes certain provisions for distribution but not other provisions for sale or advertisment, then I choose to advertise, then I should be liable for that breach not the venue that I used as the mode for advertisement.
This is like suing a billboard company for posting an ad with artwork I didn’t properly license for the advertisment space.
- Comment on Roblox says it paid out $1.5B to game creators in 2025 and the top 1,000 earned $1.3M on average; 50%+ of creators list high school as their highest education 6 days ago:
I’ve never thought of Roblox as being bad. I think if it as being dangerous (for the reasons you state), but I also think of it as a for us by us kind of deal. Meaning it’s a place and a game(s) for kids.
My son isn’t allowed to play it in our house (if he goes to visit family or friends I don’t make restrictions on that), and I have the same rule for pretty much all online games including things like Fortnite. This is mostly because of voice chat.
I do think the benefits you list are an important part of the conversation that don’t get brought up much.
- Comment on Microsoft patents system for AI helpers to finish games for you 1 week ago:
I don’t like people but I like them more than I like AI.
I also grew up in the 80’s when you’d ask an older sibling to best the boss for you.
- Comment on Microsoft patents system for AI helpers to finish games for you 1 week ago:
I would rather pay another human being to TeamViewer in a d beat the boss.
Good Lord.
- Comment on Ars Technica Fires Reporter Over AI-Generated Quotes 1 week ago:
It doesn’t say something like that specifically because it isn’t an algorithm that receives x input and spits out Y. It’s an algorithm that receives x query and spits out the most common variant worf that comes after query. If there isn’t a most common word that makes sense to a human, the AI doesn’t know that and so it still gives the most common word in its training set.
If the query is “Juicy” it may output melons. If melons were not available in its training set it might output grapes or cherries, but if those weren’t available it might output apple bottom jeans which would have made sense in 2003 but likely wouldn’t make sense to the average kid today who’s never heard of juicy couture.
It doesn’t understand anything. It can’t reason.
- Comment on Windows 12 release date in 2026 possible, with AI features that may force CPU upgrades 1 week ago:
I don’t think businesses are going to be getting any CPU’s to make new PC’s during this shortage either. The average budget laptop cost has skyrocketed.
- Comment on Windows 12 release date in 2026 possible, with AI features that may force CPU upgrades 1 week ago:
CPU upgrades? What CPU’s? Are the CPU’s in the Microcenter with us, Microsoft? Can you show us on the shelf where the mystical CPU’s are?
Is the shortage a mirage? Our imagination?
- Comment on President Donald Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems 2 weeks ago:
America hasn’t won a war (or conflict even) since WW2.
He’s a man shaped entity with the brain of a dementia riddled geriatric because that’s exactly what he is. That man has so many health conditions the only reason he’s not dead is they’re fighting over who gets to kill him.
- Comment on Instagram says it will alert parents if their teen repeatedly searches for terms related to self-harm or suicide in the US, the UK, Canada, and Australia 2 weeks ago:
- This means they had to verify my teenager is a kid. I don’t want it collecting information on my child.
- This means that they also have verified I’m the parent or legal guardian of said child meaning whether I use Instagram or not they are collecting information on me, and I don’t want that either.
- The algorithm for Instagram is a major direct contributor to suicidal ideation and this does nothing to fix that.
No thank you. Burn it with fire.
- Comment on FBI Got Grok to Hand Over Prompts Used to Create Nonconsensual Porn 2 weeks ago:
You mean Xitter doesn’t hand over data without a warrant when it can harm their products?
- Comment on User accidentally gains control of over 6,700 robot vacuums while tinkering with their own device to enable control with a PlayStation controller 2 weeks ago:
Or just ignorant.
- Comment on Discord will require a face scan or ID globally for full access next month 2 weeks ago:
We both know that this isn’t about stopping criminals or underaged users. That’s just a pretext to conveniently use as cover for their real reason which is surveillance.
- Comment on S p i n o s a r u s 2 weeks ago:
Don’t threaten him with a good time!
- Comment on S p i n o s a r u s 3 weeks ago:
He has no business being this creatively talented.
- Comment on 'A Big F*ck You to Big Tech': New Jersey Residents Defeat AI Data Center 3 weeks ago:
Not exactly. Princeton NJ and the surrounding areas are quite wealthy. The wealthy/elites have decided they don’t want their places polluted or to subsidize the costs of these data centers. It certainly wasn’t Newark and Camden that fought and won this.
- Comment on Before We Blame AI For Suicide, We Should Admit How Little We Know About Suicide 3 weeks ago:
While I don’t agree that AI alone caused anything (because there had to be some instability there for the words of the AI to manipulate, I can absolutely agree that use of the AI is a very apparent contributing factor in the cause.
With suicide you need some very specific circumstances.
- Opportunity. A time and place where the person can’t or won’t be stopped from the attempt.
- A feeling of pain or helplessness that eclipses that person’s ability to deal with or find and outlet for.
- Means/mode. A bus, a rope and anchor point, a weapon.
- Intent.
I think the last one is where things get a bit murky from a legal standpoint.
Barring accidental suicide, what can legally be considered as responsible for causing suicide is limited. If you encourage a suicidal person to kill themselves, you as the other person had intent to harm, even if you didn’t mean for them to actually follow through, or believe that they would.
My fear is that these legal battles won’t result in the AI being held accountable because they’re not able to have intent.
My bigger fear is that the companies who are responsible are not going to be held responsible for the same reason a fun manufacturer isn’t when someone sticks the barrel in their mouth and pulls the trigger. The argument that it’s a “tool” that’s been “misused” is gonna be thrown around a lot.
I wish I could believe we’d get more stringent regulations out of such lawsuits. But I just don’t have that kind of hope.
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Cyberpunk platformer “Replaced”. . .
- Comment on Ars Technica Pulls Article With AI Fabricated Quotes About AI Generated Article 3 weeks ago:
Saying Generative AI lies is attributing the ability to reason to it. That’s not what it’s doing. It can’t think. It doesn’t “understand”.
So at best it can fabricate information by choosing the statistically best word that comes next based on its training set. That’s why there is a distinction between Generative AI hallucinations and actual lying. Humans lie. They tell untruths because they have a motive to. The Generative AI can’t have a motive.
- Comment on Ring calls off partnership with police surveillance provider Flock Safety 4 weeks ago:
They may have done, but if you’re referring to the kidnapped woman who’s footage was pulled from the backend after they said she didn’t have a subscription, she had a Google Nest Camera.
I wouldn’t doubt that Amazon does this too but Google is just as bad if not worse.
- Comment on Is it just me or is there a lot of Spam and abuse on Lemmy lately? 4 weeks ago:
I think this may depend on the instance you’re on. The “trans” spam bot hit up my sister’s account but she’s on fedia/mbin. I haven’t noticed the other abuses per se to be like. Rampant or anything.
But I also don’t check DM’s.
- Comment on Discord will require a face scan or ID globally for full access next month 4 weeks ago:
Discord just had a breach of that ID data. Discord is going to lose a lot of users this way.
- Comment on CEO of Palantir Says AI Means You’ll Have to Work With Your Hands Like a Peasant 5 weeks ago:
You’re right. But that can only last so long.
- Comment on CEO of Palantir Says AI Means You’ll Have to Work With Your Hands Like a Peasant 5 weeks ago:
Didn’t Ford’s CEO just say they wanted highschool graduates who could do math to be automotive techs making $120K a year?
Plumbers already make ridiculous amounts of money because there aren’t enough of them.
The median age in my field 5-10 years ago was 55 years old and we aren’t getting an influx of new A&P licensed techs still. The main way the Aviation industry gets it’s techs these days is the military and that’s not even a sure fire way.
Like. CEO’s doing trades when? Because he’s clearly mistaken if he thinks that it’s not going to be CEO’s and upper management people who get their jobs replaced by AI.
They keep trying to replace engineers, software devs and so on with AI at all the tech companies and then having to back out of that decision to keep things running.
- Comment on CEO of Palantir Says AI Means You’ll Have to Work With Your Hands Like a Peasant 5 weeks ago:
You don’t own a shovel? If you have hands, you can make a shovel. We will. Need the shovels for the mass grave after the elite are all gone. You know, so we don’t allow the spread of diseases from necrotizing flesh.
- Comment on Why is Valve being sued for almost $900 million, but Epic Games wasn't sued when they bought Rocket League and Fall Guys to remove them from steam? 5 weeks ago:
From what I read, that $4BN number could be taken two ways. I don’t know if that analyst excluded the games Valve developed, and that $4BN is games sales of everything else, or if that’s what they made from their own titles. I didn’t want to go through the rigamarole of Xitter to see the direct quote and I haven’t had a chance to find it in the internet archive.
I also kind of want a good run down of what steam offers to developers that makes their platform so attractive because my understanding is it’s more than just e-shop services and that’s one of the reasons I have seen touted as why people feel the service fee is reasonable.
I didn’t want to leave you on read, but I also am still looking up all kinds of random information to put together.
Also, my confusion is because there are two different lawsuits involving the 30% cut of game sales.
There’s a class action lawsuit in the UK involving all of steams consumers there, predicated on the idea that the 30% service fee makes games more expensive to the detriment if those consumers.
And there’s a different class action lawsuit brought by developers Wolfire and Dark Catt every developer who uses Steam as an E-Shop platform, also over the 30% service fee and alleged anti-competitve practices (Wolfire say that Steam told them they couldn’t sell their game anywhere else for less than it was available on Steam (even if they didn’t use steams license keys)).
I know I can come off as really terse, and tone is hard via text anyway. But thank you for addressing it.
- Comment on Why is Valve being sued for almost $900 million, but Epic Games wasn't sued when they bought Rocket League and Fall Guys to remove them from steam? 5 weeks ago:
By sold cheaper I meant MSRP price, not sale price.