Microsoft retires WordPad after 28 years — app no longer available as of Windows 11 24H2

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• disconnectikacio@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Omg i use this to open shitty word docs at work, to dont make it swap much, as the word is a memory hog

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• Ozonowsky@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I guess it’s to direct more people to Microsoft 365 and Word. I hope that in reality more people will start to use LibreOffice and others.

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  • sheogorath@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My office had a period where we used LibreOffice and others because of some licensing dispute with Microsoft. However that period of peace ended when we migrated to 365.

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  • filcuk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve used windows since dos and have never once used wordpad in my entire life.
    For basic text, notepad is just fine. For anything fancy, wordpad isn’t good enough.
    I feel that it doesn’t have a place anywhere. It’s like the bizarre paint 3D they’ve recently discontinued.

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    • desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      iirc wordpad had spellcheck which was sort of convenient

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• nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I need any note taking app to require at least half a gigabyte of memory

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• celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s fine. It’s usefulness dried up decades ago. There are better, free, non Microsoft word processing apps, and notepad always exists for your unimportant note taking.

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  • realitista@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I didn’t mind having something light and built in for when I just wanted quickly to create a little rich text doc and not boot up full fat Word and the corresponding jump in resource usage and file size.

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• rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Could they please retire modern Windows UI design?

  Those contrasting color squares are not the zen those designers think. UI layout being different in paradigm for every application is not the productivity improvement they think. Using titlebars for something other than titles and control buttons is not optimization. Those buttons being some scratches on the screen barely visible is crap from any PoV I can imagine.

  And somebody should explain to them that a good design for a billboard, a good design for a glossy magazine, a good design for a shop front, a good design for an office, a good design for a videogame, a good design for a movie and a good design for a workstation are all mutually incompatible in vast majority of cases.

  And again about zen, simplicity, air and all that. I understand they think they are very smart and understanding of aesthetics. But zen would be having clean window borders and clearly visible control elements, for starters. And buttons not being just color squares. And in general solutions being subordinate to functional goals of the UI being usable. Industrial ergonomics are zen.

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  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The drop-down text menu with dense options was good design. Adding the quick toolbar for more common tasks was also good design.

    Moving everything from the text menu to the quick toolbar was bad design.

    Just like the evolution of their search functionality. Started as an explorer feature (good), added to the start menu with a focus on program names (good), then they mixed web results from Bing and it’s unclear if a program I’m searching for is installed and it found that or if it exists and the result is a link to some website (bad, if I wanted to search the fucking internet, I’d launch a fucking browser), also insisting on using their browser (wtf, they should have been broken up 20 fucking years ago, instead the courts decided to just fucking ignore them doing the same shit they lost the lawsuit for only much worse now).

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  • Mercuri@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I remember a while back Microsoft did an market research thing and found that of their brands, “Xbox” had positive consumer feedback while many of their other product names weren’t nearly as favorable.

    So what did they do? Did they try to understand what Xbox did differently to leverage that strategy elsewhere? Did they promote the Xbox marketing team to give them a wider purview?

    No. They just renamed Zune Music to Xbox Music and Games for Windows to Xbox for Windows. THAT’LL FIX IT!

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    • CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And then they tank the name X-Box

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  • KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “We need to recapture the Apple market share!”

    “Got it boss, we’ll make it stupid.”

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    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “Get rid of those ugly strain reliefs on the plugs!”
      “Uh, we don’t make hardware.”
      “I don’t care, get rid of them!”

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It just pains me to see, remember Chinese websites and software around 2007-2008?

      Everybody (aware) looked at that with terror.

      Now it’s the same everywhere.

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• Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Pfew … I move to Linux just in time!

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  • bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Gnome has already been ruined by a similar failed desire for a clean and simple interface.

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    • Zeoic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Gnome has only gotten better imo

      ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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    • drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes, but on Linux I get to choose not to use Gnome

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    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That was decades ago, though.

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• Enzy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time… A long time.

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• kuneho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They should open-source it, as they did with Calculator.

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  • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Libre office writer is a thing

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      As is Abiword, which is a bit more of a direct comparison.

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    • kuneho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, sure, a really nice thing.

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Another thing. But there’s a lot of markdown and other lightweight markup editors.

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• KonalaKoala@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I wonder if anyone thought about looking up WordPal in the Microsoft Store and think about maybe that could be what it evolved into.

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  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Problem is, it’s not installed by default

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• Mwa@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Still on the last windows os am ever gonna use windows 10

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  • theherk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you don’t plan to upgrade even after security updates end, what’s keeping you there now?

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    • Mwa@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Am prob gonna use linux fully and secondary os macos (not 100% sure erm)

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• lud@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I hope it’s still included on future Windows server versions. It’s quite useful to open documentation or instructions included with some software.

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  • luciferofastora@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I suppose you could install Word. If you want just Word, you can jump through a few hoops to make the Office Deployment Tool install only Word.

    I don’t think that is a reasonable solution for your use case, but I suspect making people use (and buy) the actual Office Suite is the motivation.

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    • antithetical@lemmy.deedium.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Installing Word, on a server, running as administrator, forecefully linked to some MS account for activation… Is that really a reasonable solution in a Microsoft world? Smh.

      If documentation comes as Word document there is no documentation and a huge red flag for the software.

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    • zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Notepad ++ is one of the first things I install on any windows system

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• _____@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Word pad the goat of somehow interpreting files as not UTF8

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• b0rg_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  here’s a little known fact about WordPad: It was Microsoft’s first word processing program. Originally introduced as an add-on to MS-DOS in 1981, WordPad later became a part of Windows in the 1990s after the release of Windows 95. It was designed to be simpler and more user-friendly than its more advanced counterpart, Microsoft Word.

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  • dan@upvote.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    WordPad didn’t exist until Windows 95. You might be thinking of Microsoft Write, which predated it.

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    • ADTJ@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In Windows 95, wordpad was still write.exe, is it possible they just renamed it?

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• stoly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Wordpad, as I recall, only existed because back in the Windows 95 days nobody had Office and couldn’t open Word documents.

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  • dan@upvote.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    WordPad in Windows 95 was a demonstration of how to use the Windows rich-text editing component. Its C++ source code came bundled with MFC (Microsoft Foundation Classes) as a sample.

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  • FiskFisk33@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    people still don’t, right? I cant imagine it’s very common outside of company computers

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    • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Anyone who works for or studies at any organization has it.

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  • yonder@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They should preinstall libre office as a replacement.

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• art@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  As long as you have notepad, you’re good.

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  • sik0fewl@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What if I want rich text?

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    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      LaTeX is always free.

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Lightweight_markup_language

      www.markdownguide.org

      typst.app

      asciidoctor.org

      www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/usage/…/basics.html

      orgmode.org

      Any good missing?

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Markdown?

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    • Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You should probably reconsider.

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Have your butler do it for you

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    • yonder@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Too bad, only the poorest text for you.

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  • OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Notepad++

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    • hakunawazo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would have suggested Sublime. But you still can’t print with it properly (only with an extension which prints in background with another program). Sure normally you don’t need to print code and with missing markup possibilities it’s pointless anyway. But sometimes a raw easy list of ideas needs to be printed.
      Now I selfhost a markdown editor just for that usecase.

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    • Anivia@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is this 2010?

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• cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  idc what people say mswrite was always > wordpad > word

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• JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  WordPad 3d

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    WordPad AI

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    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thanks for making me throw up in my mouth

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• P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sad to see such a great program go…

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• ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What, they couldn’t add AI to it?

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  • sunbeam60@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You wouldn’t add AI to a hand bag?! You wouldn’t add AI to a car?! You wouldn’t add AI to a baby?! You wouldn’t shoot a police man?! … and then steal his helmet?! … and then add AI to it?!

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    • fishbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I do not like to add AI.

      I would not like it here or there.

      I would not like it anywhere.

      I would not add it in a handbag.

      I would not, could not, in a car.

      Not to a baby, not to a helmet.

      Not in my house, Not on a mouse.

      I do not like to add AI.

      Do you hear me Microsoft?

      Take your AI and go fuck off.

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    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d give it to his grieving widow, then add ai to her.

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• pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  i was using it as a screen whenever i was leaving my computer unattended, when i used windows.

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• 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And so the bloodline of windows write is extinguished

  This is kinda sad that if you want to do even basic word processing with Microsoft software, your only option now is an ongoing subscription to do so…

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  • spamspeicher@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    …your only option now is an ongoing subscription to do so.

    You can also still buy the Office package without subscription. The latest release is from 2024 and 2021 before that. But of course its expensive for basic stuff.

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    • 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh I didn’t actually realise that, I thought they’d just gone full Adobe with office 365

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• reddig33@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  More brilliant decisions from Satya Nadella. 🙄

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• Donjuanme@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  No longer available and no longer integrated are not equivocal.

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• Creat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve used windows since the 90s. Not once have I intentionally used WordPad.

  It did open by default for some file types for a long time (.doc), usually mangling the content cause it couldn’t actually handle them properly. I think it was also the default for .txt files at some point, causing many curse words when editing plain text files, that invisibly weren’t so plain any more after… Programs expecting a configuration fine really don’t like that sort of thing.

  So: I’m very ok with this. Just install LibreOffice or something if you needa Word-like experience. Install notepad++ for anything “plain”.

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• Omgboom@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And they’re making notepad pretty unusable also

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  • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve had no real issuses with the new notepad.

    I just hope that they don’t continue adding too much stuff to it and it becomes the new wordpad and we don’t have a basic box to put text anymore.

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    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      One of my biggest problems with the new notepad is you’ve lost using it as a forgettable scratch space. Anything you put in the new Notepad now gets written to your drive, even if you don’t save the file.

      You can’t type or copy/paste anything sensitive into notepad anymore as a temporary space even if you don’t save the file.

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• Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh get fucked Microsoft. Now I have to use notepad when I put the tape measure on the spacebar so teams doesn’t change my status to idle.

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  • FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just select yourself to chat with in Teams (top option in contacts) and put a battery on the delete key like a professional…

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    • wizblizz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m a frequent host and participant of a meeting for one.

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    • Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I like the cut of your jib. I’ll put a word in for you with the Bobs.

      Image

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• AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Wordpad always seemed like an annoying and unnecessary half-step between notepad and word to me.

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Best Windows built-in way to open files with Unix end lines.

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  • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It was created for people to open Word docs at home before everyone had Office.

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Microsoft’s business model has often gotten in the way of anything they do making sense.

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  • Whelks_chance@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Rtf is far more lightweight than docx. It’s closer to markdown.

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  • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    its pretty neat if you dont have access to word, which is likely why they want to get rid of it

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  • altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can’t say I ever needed it in the 28 years I’ve been using Windows. I’m sure there are plenty who did, though.

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  • pandapoo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As others have said, fast opening quick notes with basic formatting.

    For example, if I get an unexpected call I need to write down more than a call back number, Wordpad was my go to.

    Well, at least when back when I used Windows regularly.

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  • sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Word is now so bloated that I fear using it. It’s nice to have Wordpad.

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  • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I liked having the minimal formatting options in WordPad without the bloat of Word.

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• Toes@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sad but expected. Most people are using either office or one of the free alternatives by now.

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• comador@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Microsoft: We can’t spy on your usage when you use wordpad, use O365 instead!

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