Feel like this could have been demonstrated with a hot dog
A YouTuber let the Cybertruck close on his finger to test the new sensor update. It didn't go well.
Submitted 6 months ago by EdibleFriend@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.businessinsider.com/youtuber-cybertrunk-finger-test-frunk-sensor-2024-5
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Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Fermion@mander.xyz 6 months ago
Or a chicken drumstick for somewhat similar bone strength.
nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Is this the dipstick that tried it with a carrot, it cut the tip off and then said he was going to try it with his finger to be sure?
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
A baby carrot
It takes about the same force to bite through a baby carrot as it does to bite through a finger
As long as the carrot is pretty close to the size of the finger you’re wishing to stimulate
I wish I didn’t know that
CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 6 months ago
He did demonstrate it that way, specifically with a carrot. And it somewhat worked. The problem is they programmed it to do more and more pressure every time it fails meaning that doing the carrot first actually caused a safety issue. He only moved onto his finger because the safety feature seemed to be working.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The engineer told him the frunk increases in pressure every single time it closes and detects resistance, Judkins said. It’s going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder.
Geniuses.
takeda@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Penis, got it!
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
No, it has to be something bigger than the panel gap
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 6 months ago
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ABCDE@lemmy.world 6 months ago
He tested it with multiple similar objects.
LesserAbe@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Then he wouldn’t get nearly as many views. Or have articles written about him
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Or a penis.
1984@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Wouldn’t get so many YouTube views right…
bcron@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Man youtubers are dumb as hell. Use a stick or something
bitchkat@lemmy.world 6 months ago
He used a banana, an organic dildo, and a carrot. It snapped the carrot and then he decided to try with his arm, hand, and finger.
laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
It snapped the tip of the carrot, which wouldn’t be a lot of resistance
Based on what it didn’t cut through, his finger should have been safe but apparently Tesla designed the thing to keep increasing the pressure if it detects resistance each time until it can close, which is absolutely baffling. I don’t know of any other safety feature that turns down the safety the more it activates. The fact that it reacts to the exact same conditions differently each time should, in itself, be deeply concerning for any safety feature.
It might have been dumb of him to try it, but that doesn’t change that it’s still unsafe.
NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 6 months ago
organic dildo
He slammed his peantus in the hood?
GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Then it’s his own damn fault. Even if he tries suing, he will lose.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
No, it snapped the carrot before the update. After the update, it only snapped the very tip. That’s a pretty important detail imo.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
We live in an age where the notion of “thinking something through before doing it”, also known as “common sense” has been replaced with the need to get it out there onto the internet as fast as possible before someone else beats you to it. The need for social gratification on the internet beats the need for self-preservation.
The first time I recall realizing this what when another YouTube dipship picked up a Portuguese Man-o-war and people got pissy when it was pointed out how lucky he was to not have been stung and how it was sheer dumb luck that he was still alive
People defended him saying “He didn’t know it was dangerous, he didn’t know what it was…” And that’s the whole fucking point… We used to live in a society were people were smart enough to not touch shit that they don’t know if it’s dangerous or not. The concept of erring on the side of caution is now abandoned because of stupidity and social media credits.
Halosheep@lemm.ee 6 months ago
“we used to” No the fuck we didn’t. Humans have always been dumb, shortsighted, and curious. The internet just makes it really easy to see the ones that fuck up enough to be entertaining.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Its the same wirh Being First To Market.
But in the financial world your failed risk hurts more than your family.
stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I think hot dogs are good test subjects
anlumo@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Sticks don’t get clicks.
Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Dicks get more clicks.
bcron@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I would have preferred a ‘will it blend’ format with the ultimate test being the Cybertruck’s own keyfob (you have one job!)
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 6 months ago
A Tesla engineer said the test was done wrong because the frunk increases in pressure every time.
“You are holding it wrong!” 🤣
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Of course it just keeps hitting harder when things are in the way.
Literally Tesla’s response
cley_faye@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m sure these “engineers” were confused everytime they saw an elevator door not mercilessly crush people.
Chozo@fedia.io 6 months ago
He did the test wrong because he's experimenting with "safety" algorithms that the manufacturer has provided little-to-no documentation on and is having to come up with answers on his own. Maybe he wouldn't be "doing it wrong" if Tesla hadn't over-engineered every aspect of their piece of shit truck in the first place. This thing is a solution in search of a problem, and it'll chop your fingers off until it finds it.
ozymandias117@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If it increases in pressure every time, I’m now curious how many times you need to close the trunk to cut a finger off
slaacaa@lemmy.world 6 months ago
He forgot to put it on Finger Safe Mode™️ before closing the trunk
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
That’s why Apple gave up on designing a car. Because all of the customer base has already been captured by Tesla.
Zehzin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Judkins said that after the finger test, a lead cybertruck engineer at Tesla said he did the video wrong.
lmao
saigot@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Well apparently it’s programmed to bypass the safety system after 3 attempts under the assumption that the user knows best.
This seems like a really dumb choice, but I can see why an engineer would want to point out that it’s not incompetent engineering but an incompetent business department.
ShortFuse@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Judkins said that after the finger test, a lead cybertruck engineer at Tesla said he did the video wrong.
asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You know what they say… Don’t stick your finger in crazy
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Bought it to begin with so his intelligence is suspect at the outset
DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Title: Idiot Cybertruck Owner.
That’s all you need for the title.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What person with an automated cargo door closure mechanism has thought “stop protecting my stuff and just fucking close”?
I’ll admit it annoys me when there’s something in the way that keeps my door from latching and it reopens, but I’d rather have to clear the door and shut it manually than it force itself closed and jams the door or break my shit.
ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Someone should tell this guy that hot dogs exist.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
The cybertruck is the dumbest tech product and that’s after you compare it to the Vision Pro and AI pin
froh42@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Do we also have something like r/dontputyourdickinthat on lemmy?
Emmie@lemm.ee 6 months ago
This is live example of how IQ doesn’t correlate with „success”
nutsack@lemmy.world 6 months ago
that car looks like shit
Emerald@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The crazy part to me is that he tried a carrot and it didn’t open for it. Yet he thought it was a good idea to try his finger which it about the same size.
Bonesy91@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This is sad. The cybertruck is a deathtrap on wheels and somehow “money” got it to pass any “money” to safety tests is beyond me…
secrethat@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The worst part of the article is them using the term frunk unironically.
UckyBon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The cybertruck is an iq test.
_sideffect@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“Data sent to HQ. Thank you for your participation”
filister@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Are there any crashes already involving pedestrians? I really wonder how broken those pedestrians are after the hit. I think the chance to survive a hit from Cybertrucks is minimal. And I am even surprised that it is allowed on your streets even.
puppy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder.
What’s next? When you press the brake padel the car is going to assume that you want to slow down? Wow, that’s some fantastic wisdom from Tesla!
wirehead@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Masterful gambit, sir.
downpunxx@fedia.io 6 months ago
pour one out for a fallen hero
nOvA_NoVa@lemmy.world 6 months ago
…the frunk?
boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Just the tip to see how it feels bay bay
jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 months ago
"frunk"ing frunk!
Seriously, did fhe same designer proofread fhis?
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
giggle giggle snort
nfsu2@feddit.cl 6 months ago
I get the idea automation, its great when it saves time and effort but when it represents a minuscule chance of chopping a limb off you it should never be implemented to the public.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Oh no I saw a video where it chopped a carrot without stopping
I don’t have the courage to click the link….
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Are you kidding me? You did the test wrong on a safety critical feature? No you dumbass engineer, you designed it wrong. Why in the holy fuck would you make a safety critical algorithm keep apply pressure on subsequent attempts???
MamboGator@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This is why, as a software developer, I’m against designing any system that assumes what the user wants and tries to do it for them automatically. On the occasions where the assumption is right, it’s a mild convenience at best. When it’s wrong, it is always infuriating if not dangerous.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah, I’m an embedded software developer myself and yeah, when we architect our code we have safety critical sections identified with software safety reviews and we always go with the assumption that we’re going to run into that one guy who’s the living embodiment of Murphy’s law and go from there with that design to minimize the potential for injury and death.
Can’t imagine who the hell is in charge of the software safety reviews there that let that pass.
hersh@literature.cafe 6 months ago
“Smart” may as well be synonymous with “unpredictable”. I don’t need my computer to be smart. I need it to be predictable, consistent, and undemanding.
toofpic@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“Oh my, the cake box/finger/dog was in the way, but thanks for automation, the door didn’t close!”
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
And also every additional kind of complexity (which stacks BTW) makes you more dependent on the vendor (good for them, bad for you) and on doing things exactly as their imagined user (because it’s disproportionately your problem as laws don’t seem to work in making it theirs).
Distributism is actually a very good political ideology. Sad it’s associated with Catholic religion, because it correctly generalized the principles making democracies and markets and cultures work.
ech@lemm.ee 6 months ago
What the fuck kind of idiots are leading things over there? “Something’s in the way. Better crush it!” What a bunch of morons putting everyone in danger.
barsquid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“If it encounters resistance, the brushless motor increases in pressure until it closes fully.” Guess the company:
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Musk seems to be increasingly infecting the whole company with his idiocy.
barsquid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why the hell would it close harder if there is something in the way? That’s not the correct behavior for a lid, that’s the correct behavior for powered shears.
Zier@fedia.io 6 months ago
Tesla Cyber Truk*
*includes free shears with every purchase
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Maybe because they want the degradation of some mechanism to be less noticeable over time. And because they’re dumb.
gian@lemmy.grys.it 6 months ago
Never tried to force the closing of your trunk lid because there is a bag that is slightly over the limit and you need a little more pressure, even if the bag is a little pressed down ?
The assumption here is that if it is your finger which is in the way, you take it out the way and you are not that stupid to try to close it again if for some reason you are not able move it away, which to me seems to make a lot of sense.
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 6 months ago
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Cybertruck owners can have a finger guillotine. as a treat
pikmeir@lemmy.world 6 months ago
How many miles? Would you say, ten million?
verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Gentlemen, you will now refer to me as Betty.
jonne@infosec.pub 6 months ago
I wonder if the guy that designed autopilot had the same idea. “So when the car detects resistance up ahead in the form of a crowd or wall, it will accelerate to make sure it goes through!”
Plopp@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I know I’m old school and all that, but why do people want to pay for automatically closing doors of any kind? Automatic opening of cargo spaces I get, if you have your bags full of hands or whatever, but once you put the stuff in there… Seem like such an incredibly unnecessary and costly feature, that also have a high chance of failing in the future. I don’t get it.
CerealKiller01@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Because taking stuff out is like putting stuff in, only in the reverse order.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Good question. My wife’s RAV4 has a rear door that will only close if you press a button. You can’t close it manually. Furthermore, my five foot tall wife can barely reach it. It’s ridiculous.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Because like you said, it’s a nice to have feature. I like me wife’s auto closing hatch for when I have a handful of boxes for that final grocery run and just walk away and it closes. It’s literally just really nice convenience feature and if it fails, you go back to closing it manually.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Wow-effect and nobody gets punished if it goes left.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 months ago
We deliberately made it fail critical. It’s your fault for expecting fail safe!
PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It strikes me as exactly the kind of engineering call that Elon has tended to make, time after time. With zero training in an area, he gets a solution in his head crufted up from some set of pre-existing notions or points of view and then pushes to have them implemented. He will also go on to fire anyone who disagrees with him. I spoke with an engineer who worked on the gull wing doors, which the team had objected to, and not only did he force them through, he burst in on one of the finalization meetings where they had finally reached a design consensus and insisted they change the hinge. Given similar reports on his behavior regarding other products (including especially twitter), I have no reason to disbelieve this person.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Safety critical? I’d rather have a trunk I can get to close than one I can stick my finger into four times in a row without pinching it. What do you think happens when you slam down a normal trunk on someone’s finger?
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Found a member of the Tesla software safety team!
kokesh@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Must… break… finger… push mooooaaaa. ~Tesla
1984@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Lols. Tesla logic.
froh42@lemmy.world 6 months ago
5 year old me after it bounces back from my finger I accidentally put there- agaaaain! agaaain!
jaybone@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The customer is always wrong.