Not going to defend him, but a Pedophile led nation executing/kidnaping foreign heads of states and bombing schools is not a good thing.
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IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
the way my Iranian friends have put it as they celebrate the death of the head of the regime and brace themselves for the impact of the new regime is that when you live under opression all your live, you learn to celebrate the small stuff, even as you know what’s coming will also be bad
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
regardless of regime changes, nothing good comes from American interventions
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
your “iranian friends” are pretty stupid for celebrating a war against themselves.
flamingleg@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
*when you live your whole life under the effect of unilateral sanctions, designed specifically to punish civilians living their life in order to create political change (aka terrorism)
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
All of a sudden this bothers you? lol your terrorist nation has been doing this non stop forever. You guys bomb my country, treat my people with racism, you leave us the mess and move on, and pretend it never happened. Then you turn around and criticize other nations. It’s a big facepalm seeing so many young leftists acting like this is new
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
you’re making a lot of assumptions about me, I’ve been protesting almost every week for years, local antiwar org I work with has been organizing weekly protests since 2003.
this bs aggression isn’t new, but I refuse to desensatise myself.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The fun thing is your statement applies to both the US and Iran.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
has Iran kidnapped and murdered foreign heads of state lately?
regdog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Godric@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Now watch all the tankies praise him as a honorary socialist
MrSmith@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They do already. “Respected leader” one post over there said.
hamid@crazypeople.online 2 weeks ago
He literally was respected by people in Iran, not everyone there is against the government and the biggest problems with the government were not him specifically it is the sprawling layers of republican bureaucracy that runs Iran and does a bad job. The Supreme Leader there isn’t really like an absolutist dictator, the Ayatollahs are like the Supreme Court of the Islamic Republic and he was like the Chief Justice.
It is wild seeing USAmericans with no information talking about a topic they only received messaging about from their government.
WereHacker@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I am trying to get someone to explain what tankie means. People call me tankie from time to time, but I have no love for the iranian goverment.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Tankies are apologists for “communist” leaders such as Stalin, Mao and Kim. They love Russia, China and North Korea and will swear those countries can do no wrong. “Left” authoritarians… bootlickers.
Greddan@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Mostly cringe american kids who confuse authoritarianism for socialism.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Assuming you’re not a tankie, I would guess it’s your instance, which is the main one where all the tankies hang out lol
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
A “tankie” is just anyone to the left of you
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
“Tankie” was originally a British slang term from the 50s.
In 1956, when the Soviet Union invaded Hungary, the British Communist movement was split over whether this action was cool, or sucked.
The people who thought it sucked derided their opponents who thought its cool, as “Tankies”, because the images in the newspapers featured lots of photos of Soviet tanks rolling into Budapest.
After this, it stops being used for the most part, until it started being reclaimed by socialists online as a tongue-in-cheeck insult to throw at each other. Because, let’s be real, it’s a silly sounding word that’s fun to say, and silly words are among the UK’s biggest cultural exports.
Eventually though, Tankie breached containment and started to be used by people who had zero connection to any kind of socialist movement or history, and its meaning began to warp.
I’ve seen Marxists, even those think the Soviet invasion of Hungary was bad, called tankies. I’ve seen Anarchists called Tankies, I’ve seen right wing guys who love trad russian Orthodox Christianity called Tankies.
It’s a word that doesn’t mean much anymore. It’s like when your grandpa calls Joe Biden “Pinko Scum”
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
It’s basically a term people on the left use for people on the extreme outer-reaches of the left, typically unthinking, uncritical, and unreasonable supporters of bolshevism and authoritarian communism, and pretty much any oppressive regime that considers itself “anti-west.”
They love putin, jinping, kim, assad, khamenei, etc.
They stylize themselves as “Marxist-Leninists” and your instance is full of them, so if you signed up unknowingly and aren’t a tankie, people might just assume based on the “.ml”
But yeah, most people on lemmy are tired of arguing in circles with tankies, who typically rely on ad hominems, strawmen, sealioning, and other bad faith or uncharitable arguments to bully you into exhaustion. Some of them have to be bots or russian trolls, cause no one can honestly be so dense. It can feel like arguing with someone from r/conservative, just with the opposite opinions.
gmtom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Tankies are basically maga but for “socialism”
They don’t have any actual values or morals and will happily support the most disgusting and heinous people that opress people, are racists wexist homophobic, that murder civilians and even commit genocide as long as they say they hate capitalism, and western imperialism.
teslekova@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Tankie means someone who sometimes defends socialist authoritarian governments because they oppose the capitalist authoritarian governments.
They(we, sometimes, it’s complicated) have a tendency to forgive the crimes of those socialist governments. Sometimes this is justified, because the accusations are false, invented by capitalist media as propaganda.
However, sometimes it’s because we want to believe that the opposition to capitalism is always good and decent, when the truth is muddy and rather unpleasant: both sides suck in their own special ways, and you shouldn’t put anyone on a pedestal.
Here in the fediverse, anarchist leftists or left-libs are the norm, so we tankies get dogpiled pretty often. A pox on all hierarchical governments seems to be the way here.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Doesn’t the term come from the Tiananmen Square massacre when the army drove tanks over students?
calmblue75@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Tankie is now used as a derogatory term to refer communists. But you’re probably being called a tankie because you’re from lemmy.ml
rogsson@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Nice! Now do Putin, Trump and the rest of the dictators
Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can we include the plutocrats and oligarchs? That seems to be the root of the problem.
MissJinx@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
don’t forget the bilionaires!
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And don’t forget to nuke Isreal to green dust!
Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So easy to take care of Iran, but so hard to take care of Russia.
Seeing the USA waltz in dropping bombs over literally nothing but ignoring the Ukraine is pretty bizarre.
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Fact is that Ayatollah was 86 and had cancer… he was going to die anyway probably in the next 5 years. We didn’t have to engineer 30K protesters murdered and 150 schoolgirls killed along with him and his wife. We could have been patient, like the Chinese. After all, it is not like Iran has a shortage of mullahs.
tackleberry@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
The Ayatollah is the spiritual leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran Jeffery Epstein is the spiritual leader of the 2025 USA regime
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
these morons don’t think iran had a plan if their 86 year old leader died?
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The morons orchestrating these attacks are doing so to distract other morons from the sex and child trafficking crimes they committed.
Morons all the way down. Unfortunately these morons have access to ballistic missiles.
Etterra@lemmy.org 2 weeks ago
Well the Orange Jackass sure as hell doesn’t have the well-being of Iranians in mind.
UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Added benefit but the main reason is oil.
Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
These morons dont understand martyrdom because their lives are spiritual vacuums.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
This post is verified shit, yes.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Every so often I am reminded Reddit liberals (who just weren’t honest enough to stay there with their MAGA friends, who are closer to them than they are to anyone outside of the Western sphere) also came here. Oh well.
This shit is no joke, man, the US backed a coup and when it wasn’t successful enough they murdered people, and this is not even the first time in the span of a year (in this country). And American imperialism is always, always, on the wrong side of history and ethics, because they’re amoral geopolitical moves made to enrich Western aristocrats, loss of life is not even part of the equation. Stop it already, you don’t have to be Greta but at least you can understand this is nothing but violence for the sake of control by the usual villains, and not make fun of it all.
gmtom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nah, the guy was a piece of shit and I’m glad he’s dead and fully supporting people meming in him. I’m not giving some opressive dictator that does all the same shit I hate people like Trump for, just because he also hates America.
AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Genuine political change has to come from the people who live under it. If Trump got blown up tomorrow, it would no more change US politics than this is gonna do anything for Iranians. If you want a people to rise up against their “dictator” give them space to decide the best course of actions for themselves.
Why should Iranian citizens look on this as a good thing when the country that bombed and ransacked their neighbors for 20+ years is looming like a vulture?
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Your heart seems to be in the right place but you’re largely misinformed, or taking things in a vacuum.
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Nah, try listening to Iranians. They love that he got exploded.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
First of all, eww, don’t speak so casually about death. And no, lol, the only ones saying that are expats living in the West, of course. 😅
Avicenna@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Not that I like this guy he deserves to rot in the same cesspit as Trump and Netanyahu (and more). But this post looks like rage bait.
texture@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
it IS ragebair
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Only idiots brain rotted by Iranian propaganda would be upset by that asshole’s death.
The guy executed something like 30K people in the last month. What kind of shit person supports a guy like that?
INB4 WHATABOUT WHATABOUT WHATABOUT
Avicenna@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
There is no what abouts. I am glad he is dead. But I am also sorry Iranian people have been suffering at the hands of Russia, USA and Israel for the better part of the last century. Netanyahu, Putin, Trump are no different than him in terms of how merciless and inhumane they can be.
yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Nobody’s complaining about his death here. But everybody should be worried about this new trend of Trump deciding who’s deemed fit to rule and who’s not.
RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Bad Luck Ayatollah.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
How’s Libya doing these days? Is it good?
altphoto@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I forget this fuck’s name. No, don’t google it, its totally fine.
Let’s call them all “Epstein files”
clot27@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
didnt ran like the rat netanyahu lol
treesquid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He did, as much as he could once he learned shit was going down, but it turns out Iran’s intelligence, air defense and operational security all suck so he died in his bunker. He’s killed almost as many Iranians in a couple months of protests as Netanyahu has killed Palestinians since the Oct 7 attacks. Bibi is absolute trash, but to pretend like Khamenei was better in any way is insane. They’re both completely evil cowards.
clot27@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
he’s killed almost as many Iranians in a couple months of protests as Netanyahu has killed Palestinians since the Oct 7 attacks
Sure buddy, thats nice opinion, did epstien give it to you?
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Iran has been terrible at everything so far. I keep joking that they put huge arrows you can see from space with the naked eye showing where all their leaders, scientists, and generals are.
Iran must know they’re infiltrated from top to bottom by Israel, no? Especially after those “abandoned trucks” filled with drones thing?
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
We should savour this moment cause I feel like this would be the only good thing that is gonna come out of these string of events.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I mean, he has been fighting US & Israeli imperialism his entire life, he was an old man with failing health and infamously wanted to be martyred by US/Israel
SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Someone should tell those suicide bombers that getting bombed while hiding in a bunker counts as martyrdom. Might save them some trouble.
Fokeu@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Martyrdom is a fancy word that means death for a made up religion.
Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Dedicated his life to spiritual fulfilment.
Killed by a country that rapes little girls and a country that murders little girls.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
lol wow, we’re pretending this dude was a good guy now?
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Dedicated his life to spiritual fulfilment.
LOL, good one :D
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Empire’s been attacking these people for at least a century.
ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
How is this a shitpost? Politicalmemes exists.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We need to just start shitposting in every community, because everything is shitpost, and to deny that is to deny life. When you wake up in the morning, that’s shitpost. When you drink a cup of coffee, that’s shitpost. Drive to work, shitpost. It’s all shitpost, and so I think all we can do is shitpost everywhere.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Every shitpost is a political post. Tell me why you feel this is more political than the post about global corporation KFC’s rubber nuggets.
totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
All communities become politics communities over time…
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Too bad his death had to cost the lives of innocents…
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
A result of UK/US interference prior to the shah which led to islamic revolution.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ben, Krasnov, Xi, Vlad and the Ayatollah are peas in the same damn pod. Sick bastards, all of them!
petersr@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can someone explain the “died on the first day” part?
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
He was a brutal fucking bastard… however, he was also 86 and had cancer. Maybe we could have waited 6 months and saved a lot of money and a lot of lives. Dude was going to die soon anyway.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Fucking noob… a lot of big talk, but didn’t leave the basement of his house.
nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Meme is technically correct, entire life ended after 1 day.
itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Are y’all doing a bit or are really this stupid? None of you seem to grasp what martyrdom means. He was an old man dying of cancer. He had plenty of opportunities to go hide in a bunker, but getting killed in an Israeli strike is the best thing that could happen to the Iranian regime. Anyone so clueless as to fall for that better prepare for a long and unsuccessful war.
death to america
Generica@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
sommerset@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Sounds like he was 86 and wasn’t hiding
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How many times does Iran need to be clapped? Looks like they won’t leading the Middle East with Russia and China.
Rothe@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Fuck him. And also fuck the US and Israel. As an outsider this is just all villains fighting each other.
Klear@quokk.au 2 weeks ago
…and civilian collateral damage, unfortunately.
kiterios@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Unfortunately there’s also civilian collateral damage when they aren’t fighting each other.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I am sure the hundred schoolgirls were also villains fighting each other
SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
To Iran they were just going to be new protestors to kill.
Fuck all 3 of these authoritarian shit stains.
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Some asshole on one of the forums I frequent stated that there was questionable information about the school. I responded that there was questionable information regarding his ethics and partisanship and I not only got blocked but my response was rejected… perhaps ‘CULT’ is a trigger word?
red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
With innocent, normal people caught in the crossfire. If those cunts would simply kill each other, fine. But it’s always other people getting hit too.
red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I have a list of world leaders whose death’ll make me happy. These are people that make the world better by dying.
PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As an American. Fuck my current administration. I can still say that for now. Let’s see how long it lasts.