Of all practices, he says that philosophy will be replaced with AI. What a moron.
CEO of Palantir Says AI Means You’ll Have to Work With Your Hands Like a Peasant
Submitted 2 days ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://futurism.com/future-society/palantir-ai-labor-hands
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HarneyToker@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
OR3X@lemmy.world 2 days ago
These morons really think AI is going to allow them to replace the technical folks. The same technical folks they severely loathe because they’re the ones with the skills to build the bullshit they dream up, and as such demand a higher salary. They’re so fucking greedy that they are just DYING to cut these people out in order to make more profits. They have such inflated egos and so little understanding of the actual technology they really thing they’re just going to be able to use AI to replace technical minds going forward. We’re on the precipice of a very funny “find out” moment for some of these morons.
dukemirage@lemmy.world 2 days ago
These morons really think AI is going to allow them to replace the technical folks.
This specific moron was talking about people with a humanities degree.
yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Even less plausible. There was a paper published recently arguing that by design LLMs are quite literally incapable of creativity. These predictive statistical models represent averages. They always and only generate the most banal outputs. That’s what makes them useful.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 days ago
A healthy chuck of CEOs have a humanities degree. It’s a common undergrad before moving to B and J-School.
innermachine@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I think these guys forget that ai is just a program written by drumroll please HUMANS. Sure we could shitcan every programmer and replace them with “vibe coders” and skate by for a year or two but when bugs crop up and backend issues pile up AI is not gonna unfuck the mess they created and it will require human intervention. If these pricks do away with the technical folk well get to that point and suffer a technological collapse because everybody that knew how to code fled or changed careers so they could pay rent.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
The FOSS ecosystem will be fine, because it’s maintained by people who do it for the love of the craft.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
The scary part is how it already somewhat is.
My friend is currently job hunting because they added AI to their flow and it does everything past the initial issue report.
the flow is now: issue logged -> AI formats and tags the issue -> AI makes the patch -> AI tests the patch and throws it back if it doesn’t work -> AI lints the final product once working -> AI submits the patch as pull.
Their job has been downscaled from being the one to organize, assign and work on code to an over-glorified code auditor who looks at pull requests and says “yes this is good” or “no send this back in”
PrejudicedKettle@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I feel like so much LLM-generated code is bound to deteriorate code quality and blow up the context size to such an extent that the LLM is eventually gonna become paralyzed
ns1@feddit.uk 2 days ago
It would be interesting to know where your friend works and what kind of application it’s on, because your comment is the first time I’ve ever heard of this level of automation. Not saying it can’t be done, just skeptical of how well it would work in practice.
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 2 days ago
There’s absolutely no way this can be effective for anything other than simple changes in each PR.
Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
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The rich fully intend to replace workers with slaves one way or another.
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AI robots can be utter shit and they will still be leaps and bounds above the task specific automation that has been replacing human workers for decades.
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As long as the rich maintain their monopoly qualify of service can drop indefinitely. Doesn’t matter if AI robots suck ass when no human employed company can compete and every other option is just as ass.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 days ago
AI robots can be utter shit and they will still be leaps and bounds more efficient than the task specific automation that has been replacing human workers for decades.
I disagree with this, and we already have live examples today that are good analogs. Youtube is being flooded with AI generated slop. AI generated scripts, read by AI generated voices, over top of AI generated images.
I never seek these out, and actively avoid them when I can tell what they are before clicking on them. In that first 2 seconds of AI generated voice, I can tell this is slop and stop watching it seeking a human generated video instead.
As long as the rich maintain their monopolies quality of service can drop indefinitely. Doesn’t matter if AI robots suck ass when no human employed company can compete and every other option is just as ass.
It can’t. At some point the quality of the product drops to a level it is no longer a product. Lets say we’re in your theoretical dystopian future where the monopoly exists for cookies. There is no other place to buy cookies except from the monopoly. You posit that quality can drop indefinitely as there is zero alternative sources for cookies. So lets say the monopoly cookie brand was deciding to substitute some of the wheat flower with sawdust as a cost saving measure with the consequence being yet lower quality cookies. At a tiny fraction of sawdust you may notice it, but the sawdust cookie may still be better than no cookie. The monopoly continues to increase the sawdust content until the cookie contains zero wheat flour and is entirely substituted with sawdust. I believe even you would concede you would no longer buy the sawdust cookies at this point. Further, you would have stopped buying them earlier when the sawdust content became so high that the cookie was inedible to you even though it contained some wheat flour at that point.
This same thing will apply to Youtube. If the only thing left to watch on youtube is AI slop because no human creators exist, then there is no point in watching youtube anymore.
The point here, is that even with a monopoly on a product, as soon as the quality drops below a certain threshold (and this point is different for every consumer), the product stops being a product to them.
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BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 days ago
They don’t even dream it up any more. They hire brains, sift through their ideas, and say “I like that. Do that.”
After that, they are experts in manipulating finances to makes their companies rich, and themselves richer, by paying the people who actually do the work, make the money, and create the shareholder value, as little as possible.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
That’s called “appropriating the surplus value of labor”
5too@lemmy.world 2 days ago
At this point, I question whether they’re even experts in that kind of finance, or if they’re just connected to each other well enough, and have a few willing experts in hand, to maintain their position.
I honestly think the only thing most of them have going for them is that it’s their name on the accounts.
segabased@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Not just the high payed software folks, but the data centers are also maintained by highly skilled and hard working techs. And this technology is only possible with constant pristine maintenance if the servers to train their models. They loathe these people just as much and can’t wait to get humans out of the process
L_N@piefed.ca 1 day ago
I don’t understand why we don’t revolt against the billionaires.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Does building a guillotine count as working with your hands?
L_N@piefed.ca 1 day ago
checks notes yes
7101334@lemmy.world 1 day ago
See guillotines are very romantic. Old-timey. Classically French. That’s all well and good for their historical record, but we’re living in 2026 in America.
I think woodchippers are much more emblematic of our working class.
46_and_2@lemmy.world 1 day ago
And CEOs will be working with their heads, as intended.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Because these billionaires convinced the manual workers that intellectual workers are the real problem, so now they’re cheering that the “gay office workers will finally be cured of their homosexuality through pain therapy” (I know way too many people believing “getting spoiled as a kid” or not being taught how to be a man is responsible for queerness, which includes “not being the manliest man on the earth”).
j_elgato@leminal.space 1 day ago
Much would be solved if we were to eat one of them. I mean, it works for the chimpanzees…
Soup@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Not even revolt, I don’t understand why we just willingly hand them power. Like, half of Canada voted for the far-right Conservative party and the other half voted for the center-right, lower-case conservative party. It’s going as expected but we just keep doing it.
L_N@piefed.ca 1 day ago
They won’t get much from the Canadian conservative far right. These people are all for cutting public services and rampant privatization… Someone would have to explain to me why someone who isn’t rich would want to vote for them.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
You need to start grass roots with a local militia.
Start small some graffiti here, some car bombs there.
Then once you have a large enough army you can contest your government.
DizzyMoth@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Many people live with the idea that one day they could became part of that 0.1 percent, and i mean it’s hard to blame them all of us independent from where we are have been feed with this kind of propaganda our entire life
sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Reygle@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Ironically us plebs who work with our hands are the people with the skill set necessary to build those things.
Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 days ago
And we will do it we our own hands… he was right… he was right from the very start
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
There’s nothing billionaire oligarchs fear more than people who are capable of thinking for themselves. Of course they want to destroy the humanities…
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Yes. It’s this, exactly. They don’t hate art, they hate how art unites us. And they hate how poignantly art can expresses how thoroughly we outnumber them.
iByteABit@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Hating on the humanities has been a talking point of the right wing for a long time, specifically because the empathy it nurtures leads to solidarity instead of survival of the fittest mentality. They say that these studies are useless to society, while capitalists are the only class that truly sits on top of society and leeches off of it
Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 day ago
“Saying the quiet part out loud” moment, because they don’t feel like they need to be quiet. They’re untouchable.
TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 1 day ago
TL;DR: Tech billionaires like Karp see the rest of humanity as their worker bees.
ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They see us as livestock.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 days ago
We “peasants” are the only reason the filthy rich have what they have, including food, and clean water to drink. They need us, we don’t need them.
Fuck these useless leeches. Billionaires should not exist.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I’m more open-minded. Billionaires shouldn’t exist until we’ve solved the problem of global poverty. After that, I’m willing to consider the possibility, though I am unconvinced that billionaires deliver any societal benefit that compensates for the many downsides caused by their existence.
Suavevillain@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m tired of these techbro cultists without any humanity being in power at all.
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
This guy seems particularly and consistently bad. Or he just doesn’t have the same filter as the others.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Yeah, they aspire to neo-feudalism, but that’s a political rather than technology position.
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
I studied poetry, painting, and music so that my sons could study mathematics and commerce, and their sons could work long hours on the assembly - without having ever studied anything - so that they can consume slop generated by AI that was pushed on everyone by people who studied commerce, created by people who studied mathematics, and trained on the works of those who studied poetry, painting, and music.
canuck666777@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
AI can’t even crank out a decent powerpoint presentation after my giving it explicit prompts and their shit AI’s going to take over jobs? I hope their stock crashes soon!
hark@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If he keeps this up, he may have to learn to work without his head like an aristocrat.
phil@lymme.dynv6.net 12 hours ago
What sounded like impossible in absurdity few years ago seems to be today’s norm. Is that a competition of apocalyptic claims, a new religion? Actually these guys keep on trying to convince themselves and others in order to inflate the bubble till the end. It seems to be like coke, they’re so high on the power it gives them.
Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 1 day ago
He is such a self-centered, megalomaniac cunt.
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 day ago
Nothing that cannot be solved by politically motivated violence.
leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I don’t like where it’s going, and I dislike Palantir, but I also strongly disagree with calling manual work “peasant” labour. There’s nothing wrong with working with your hands.
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 day ago
There is everything wrong with having to work like a peasant because wealth hoarders want to hoard even more wealth
Bakkoda@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Murder the elite with my bare hands? Welp guess i need to start working out.
hamid@crazypeople.online 1 day ago
He is lying about its capabilities to protect the stock price
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
i wish the things nobody wishes on anyone on the Palantir CEO.
LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Sorry, buddy. I’ll burn down your fucking offices and data centers before I go back to manual labor.
I didn’t do 15 years of manual labor just to go back to that shit after I finally got out.
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 day ago
I mean… this guy went from his early years as a self-professed socialist who went to protests and believed in social justice… to the most hyper-capitalist “let them eat cake” nutjob that you could imagine. What a world we live in.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They’re stealing the power of information for themselves and kicking us back to manual labour jobs, until they steal that with robots too and we have zero means of engaging with the economy that controls all the world resources, so we just end up dying off, leaving them with the whole fucking planet to themselves.
elvis_depresley@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
we need more progressive taxing, ultra-rich people shouldn’t exist, let them be rich, just not ultra-rich.
boogiebored@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Humanities is literally exactly what ai is terrible at.
The tech folks might need to reskill and look out.
People will still be writing excellent poetry and we will need it more than ever. It will be spoken word and written and unreachable by the technical tendrils of these devils for training data.
People who think the humanities don’t matter are husks of human beings. Capitalist dogs with zero personality, no actual skill, and only insatiable greed. And apparently all pedophiles to boot.
These fucks lack humanity. They are AI agents with system prompt “mak munny”. Losers.
PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This dude is going to lose his nasal cavity from his coke addiction.
GutterRat42@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Of course he craps on philosophers. What good is it philosophy for somebody without ethics?
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Can we replace CEOs and the wealthy with AI? They don’t do anything AI can’t do. Would there be any reason to let them keep massive wealth if they aren’t contributing anything?
Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Get to work, plebs. Those guillotines won’t build themselves.
BillyClark@piefed.social 2 days ago
Assume for a moment that AI really was taking all of these types of jobs, which by the way, almost certainly includes CEOs. It would only be a matter of time before robots take those other jobs he’s talking about.
A normal human of normal intelligence would see that and conclude that people simply wouldn’t have to work anymore. And that therefore, everyone should have their basic necessities taken care of by their governments.
People would be free to do whatever they want, whether it be “humanities” work or creating things or whatever. We’re no longer constrained by the fact that our lives depend on our usefulness in jobs to the ruling class.
Only a member of that ruling class would see themselves as indispensable and others as slave labor.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 2 days ago
Why do we tolerate these people?
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Because most Americans with slack jaws hunch over their smartphone gawking at tiktok videos of people they hope to one day be but never will.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 2 days ago
Really feeling the victim blaming here when they made the devices into virtual heroine
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
“mOsT aMeRiCaNs…”
Blah, blah, blah. If you can tell me how to un-fuck this nation in a way that will actually wake people up, I’m all ears. But the way I see it, these things were insidiously marketed to the whole country slowly and incrementally, like frog in a slowly warming pot of water. Those of us who jumped out of the pot are watching in horror as the rest get boiled alive.
The problem is, frogs don’t have opposable thumbs and we can’t turn the gas off - so the pot keeps boiling.
wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
In other words, a slave wants to have their own slaves, instead of being free.
termaxima@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
Look, I hate the Americans with a seething passion as well, but they’re getting fucked over even more than we are right now.
Evil doesn’t suddenly become okay when you dislike the victims…
Telorand@reddthat.com 2 days ago
I know you don’t necessarily mean it this way, but there’s a very interesting (and infuriating) history to why the US reveres the wealthy. The short version is that the ultra wealthy were pissed about the New Deal, so they used fundamentalist Christianity to tie the idea of wealth to holy favor from Yahweh.
We will have to overcome that idea if we hope to gain real class consciousness.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That concept existed WAY before the United State did.
The old idea was kings were rich because they were ordained to be kings by god. Questioning why the king was rich was questioning the word of god and punishable by death.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It’s much older. That bullshit goes back to John Calvin (16th century Christo-Taliban idiot), and there are even precedents for it in the Torah, though balanced by other provisions about behaving like a decent human.
bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Makes sense for the overdrive push on the Christianity angle. It’s just obnoxious to someone who’s going pretty damn secular.
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Pray tell, how do you stop them?
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
I don’t want to get banned for answering this.
cecilkorik@piefed.ca 2 days ago
Mario has a brother, who I’ve heard of recently.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 2 days ago
What is it that supplies these oligarchs with power? what feeds their mass surveilance and data aggregation networks? It seems to be only a few moves are needed to place them on the same grid as us.
lets_make_bacon@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
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lemming@anarchist.nexus 2 days ago
https://vlix.io/video/2ef49b07fe6f62e6dc8d/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmZAsLMUuPw
flandish@lemmy.world 2 days ago
nice try, uncle sam.
lets_make_bacon@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Yeah. Let’s show them how good we are with our hands.
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
People with the message and reach to call for mass general strikes and national scale marches on DC still think they can stop fascism with elections. Maybe I’m just too cynical in that regard to see the true situation but it seems after continued release of evidences of impeachable and heinous crimes Congress and the DoJ are firmly on the side of the fascist, pedophile political cult.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 2 days ago
This is what we call “cooked”
But theres still one super secret recipe that can save this dish
enterpries@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Because we’re stupid.
scarabic@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I mean… what do you actually suggest? We take a vote on Lemmy about who to execute?
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
No vote is necessary, we have multiple complete lists and even data aggregators showing their relations to each other.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 2 days ago
The system has evolved and is designed to make people obey the ruling class.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
And systems have been overthrown in the past when they become intolerable.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Whatcha gonna do about them?
It’s not like I invite any of them over to smoke a joint. They exist and I can’t do much about it
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 2 days ago
These dudes to crack and ket not weed. You’re offerinf the wrong poison.