Are they stupid as fuck? On the knowledge of whom does he think their models are trained? Idiotic thieves.
CEO of Palantir Says AI Means You’ll Have to Work With Your Hands Like a Peasant
Submitted 2 days ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://futurism.com/future-society/palantir-ai-labor-hands
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selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
MangoCats@feddit.it 2 days ago
Not just that, but “working with your hands” has been automating people out of jobs for the past 50 years, AI/LLM will only make automation more capable, and more undercutting of people’s manual labor costs.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
AI/LLM will only make automation more capable
LLM, unlikely. ML, probably, but not as rapidly as the hype would suggest.
And yeah, the disruption caused by the industrial revolution, telecommunications, automobiles, computers and the internet all are likely to exceed any impact caused by broader use of LLMs, which are too costly to train and run, inherently too unreliable for safety-critical or health-critical use, too flaky for any use requiring auditability, and generally of unproven utility so far, outside of a few niche applications.
And I say this as a leader of a technical team that has successfull adopted ML in several use cases, and has evaluated several opportunities to use LLMs. So far, with LLMs, the game ain’t worth the candle, even without considering the enormous environmental damage caused by their supporting infrastructure.
Etterra@discuss.online 1 day ago
You first bub.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 day ago
These people operate by the “rules for thee, not for me” rule.
Etterra@discuss.online 3 hours ago
I know. I know…
termaxima@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
comfortable office work to which most people aspire
What ? Do people even aspire to work in the first place ? And idk about you, but I’d rather have been a craftswoman if you could still live off of that.
Bongles@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I’ve had a conversation with one of my friends a few times. Even if she was filthy rich she would still work. People always claim various things like getting bored or needing something to do or wanting purpose.
I would find plenty to do without working and her take on it blows my mind. In fact every argument I’ve heard from people in general, my response (at least in my head) is that I could still accomplish that thing without employment.
I can keep myself entertained doing the things I enjoy, I can find purpose helping people with my boatloads of cash, I would have time to learn all kinds of new skills. I could start businesses to handle some niche ethically, if the main players are scummy. The possibilities are damn near endless and if I’m ever rich, I’m not going to continue spending my time making some other prick richer.
Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Some people truly are really boring people. They have no genuine interests or hobbies, which ends up being those people who often say things like they’d work even if they were rich. There’s nothing for them beyond work.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Do people even aspire to work in the first place ?
I work because I’m used to the finer things in life, such as living indoors and not having to forage or hunt my dinner.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Capitalists are so annoying. The hubris to assume we can accelerate climate change and ignore it and everything will just be hunky dory. It’s astounding these ding dongs think they’re outside the Earth system and not a part of it.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
“AI will replace a humanities degree, so don’t bother going to college,” says billionaire who went to college. “I need you to use your hands to build batteries for my shitty AI that doesn’t work.”
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 2 days ago
He’d best hope the work those hands ends up doing isn’t pulling him by the hair to the scaffold.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Posting clickbait is almost as bad as writing clickbait.
We want to be informed, not have our emotions manipulated for ad revenue.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Then do what I do, just read the title and get mad for free.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’d be one thing if the headline didn’t lie specifically to create outrage.
This kind of thing is just one tier of misinformation. Manipulating facts to push a narrative for a purpose other than informing people.
It should be moderated out of existence, so I’m okay with tossing a little shame from the bleachers.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Thiels sock puppet is saying what the anti-christ wants him to say.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
if working with my hands like a peasant paid what my job does, I’d do it in a heartbeat. fuck this mental exhaustion and stress, I’d rather be working the field right hours a day for the same pay
AI is not coming for my job, which leads me to believe it’s not coming for that many other ‘skilled’ jobs
An1m4L@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Working with your “hands” isn’t easy either. You’ll be tending injuries after a certain point. All hard work is bullshit and we have the means and technology to not need to do it. But rich fucks rather lord over slums than live in an utopian society.
nulluser@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The rest of us, he indicates, will be stuck on the assembly line, building whatever the tech companies require.
Meanwhile…
China is accelerating the rollout of fully automated “dark factories,” where production continues non-stop without lighting, human workers or shift changes. e.vnexpress.net/…/no-lights-no-workers-ai-powered…
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 day ago
And China, for all its flaws, won’t throw its people under the bus.
dipcart@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Hilarious that they’ve pivoted from assembly automation, which is feasible and meaningful and in fact is happening, to arts/humanities automation, which isn’t really possible when you think about how training works.
A lot of menial tasks can be automated and that’s probably fine… There’s a lot of stupid meaningless shit we have to do everyday. And maybe we could eliminate that stuff from the grind considering its all arbitrary, or maybe automate it away.
Regardless, doesn’t the idea that both sides of the aisle, vocational and office jobs, approaching automation mean that maybe we should start talking about things not costing anything anymore?
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 day ago
They say all this while simultaneously whining like a bunch of little crybabies about declining fertility rates. What the fuck sort of reaction are they expecting?
desmosthenes@lemmy.world 2 days ago
peasant hands can hold guns
Quadhammer@lemmy.world 2 days ago
And EMP launchers
Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well, it does take hands to raise the guillotine’s blade . . . true. Might also take hands to lock billionaires into the guillotine. So, thanks for the suggestion!
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Another bullshit PR hype. AI hasn’t produced any value yet, all those billions wasted on polluting the earth and literally nothing useful to show.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Those peasant surgeons.
fartographer@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Maybe they saw too many of us identifying that the biggest problem is the rich, rather than each other, so they’re trying to hide behind a new manufactured enemy.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Didn’t Ford’s CEO just say they wanted highschool graduates who could do math to be automotive techs making $120K a year?
Plumbers already make ridiculous amounts of money because there aren’t enough of them.
The median age in my field 5-10 years ago was 55 years old and we aren’t getting an influx of new A&P licensed techs still. The main way the Aviation industry gets it’s techs these days is the military and that’s not even a sure fire way.
Like. CEO’s doing trades when? Because he’s clearly mistaken if he thinks that it’s not going to be CEO’s and upper management people who get their jobs replaced by AI.
They keep trying to replace engineers, software devs and so on with AI at all the tech companies and then having to back out of that decision to keep things running.
matlag@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
CEOs will not be replaced any time soon, because they’re all in each other companies board and they’ll stand for each other (or more exactly from setting examples that could apply to them).
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
A law restricting multiple board memberships would be a very good thing. Say, two or three max.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You’re right. But that can only last so long.
scarabic@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Hey as long as I can get paid like a knowledge worker, I’d prefer to work with hands.
pazuzuzu@leminal.space 1 day ago
Yeah, when Karp says “there will be plenty of jobs” he doesn’t mention the wages those jobs will pay…
IWW4@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Well that is fucking horrible.
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Can someone take this insufferable prick out back with a shotgun already?
sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 days ago
CEO Of Palantir is also a sociopath fascist piece of shit
Alloi@lemmy.world 2 days ago
id also tell my competition to stop trying and get a real job if i felt like they were still a threat, you know, if i was an insecure, narcissistic, sociopath, with a visible coke addiction, and access to large swathes of investor capital, in an industry that fundamentally cannot turn a profit unless its through circular investment.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m fine with going back to a way of life that doesn’t include any of these psychopaths or their shit technology
asdf8901@lemmy.myserv.one 1 day ago
It will include their technology, it will also include requirements that those maintaining the systems are capable beyond English Lit degrees…
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 day ago
These assholes are pushing the worker bees into another 1789 France.
Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Bees will actually kill their queen at time.
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Andor, basically.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Hey grok, what’s the most efficient, yet emotionally satisfying way to liquidate our class of parasitic, pedophilic billionaires. Extra points for style!
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This guy has absolutely no understanding of humanities studies like philosophy and original or creative thought, or how AI works if he thinks those are the fields being threatened. If anything, I’d say his job is more at risk. Maybe librarians.
Hawanja@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Honestly I don’t give a shit as long as I can make a living. I wouldn’t mind working in a workshop or something. However, I don’t think we’re prepared for the millions upon millions of people who will lose their jobs becasue of AI.
Soup@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The thing we’re not prepared for is to respect trades, we can barely respect anyone as it is but trades especially are seen as “stupid jobs”. It’s also insane that basic rights and comfort within a job seem foreign in those fields, such as basically only existing as jobs with dogshit, early hours, if they’re even consistent to begin with, and toxic workplaces where people are expected to break themselves and be infinitely subservient to their bosses.
I like working with my hands and yet have zero desire to put myself through that bullshit.
eskimofry@lemmy.world 1 day ago
as a CS grad and having experience in 10 years experience in the softwarecworld… this is just delusion.
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
If he really believed his crap, he would have quit to work as a llama herder by now.