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Pope Leo XIV brings not peace but a sword to AI oligarchs and a slop-mad world in new address, says it's 'Turning people into passive consumers of unthought thoughts'

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https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/pope-leo-xiv-brings-not-peace-but-a-sword-to-ai-oligarchs-and-a-slop-mad-world-in-new-address-says-its-turning-people-into-passive-consumers-of-unthought-thoughts/

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  • cabbage@piefed.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Turning people into passive consumers of unthought thoughts

    Interesting contrast to the church itself, which turns people into passive consumers of thoughts that have been processed for centuries.

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    • MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They don’t appreciate their fanbase being taken away

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    • nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t know about the West, but a lot of Catholic community in SEAsia (excluding PH) are not blindly following the Pope. I know a lot of people in the community instantly criticizing any form corruption or negativity.

      Even our mass regularly ask community to be more rationale in thinking.

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      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m American ex catholic and yeah that was my childhood church. That said we also have a lot of people who convert to catholicism for the aesthetics and to crusade larp, and one of them insisted on arguing with the previous pope about basic doctrine as the old man was dying…

        So yeah, you’re supposed to listen to the pope but nobody does.

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    • pimento64@sopuli.xyz ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Martin Luther typed these words

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    • laranis@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Pretty sure that’s their whole game. More projection, I guess. sigh

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    • XLE@piefed.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Those damned Catholics.

      Signed, a citizen of the culturally Protestant US, where most of us don’t even consider Catholics to be Christian

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      • Kage520@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Isn’t that strange though? Catholics trace themselves back to the disciples (though I think Roman and Orthodox both claim this), yet the new ones that split somewhat recently claim they are the real ones.

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    • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well, raising above passive consumer is called heresy there.

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    • tordenflesk@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, he’s dissing the competition.

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  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    ‘Turning people into passive consumers of unthought thoughts’

    That’s brilliant! I’m not Catholic, I’m not even religious at all, and I’ve NEVER paid attention to any Pope, but this guy is different.

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    • db2@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      He’s American with black heritage, so being d different than the ones before is basically built in.

      Never fear though, there’s a shoe waiting to drop somewhere, there always is.

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      • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        He is Peruvian in my book

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      • nodiratime@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        He’s also a mathematician.

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  • pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ok he was cooking with that line.

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    • rmuk@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “unthought thought” might replace “artificial hallucination” in my vocabulary.

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    3, 2, 1… Peter Thiel is giving some spiel in Europe about the Pope being the Antichrist

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    • shithawk@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “I’m definitely not the antichrist, so much so I go around holding events to discuss the antichrist and how I am not him.” The lack of self reflection or perhaps just plain evil is astounding

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    • Tryenjer@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hear me out, Trump is the Antichrist!

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    • Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well yeah, the pope is Antichrist.

      The whole assassination of Jesus was an inside job orchestrated be Peter to become the first pope and lead the flock astray right in the hands of the devil!

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      • sunbeam60@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Did you definitely take your meds this morning?

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    • Bahnd@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Look… Im sure this is not the first time the pope has been called the antichrist. It likely happened in 884, 964, 997, 1012, 1378, 1409, or 1418 to just name a few.

      (This is not be taken seriously, I grabbed a bunch of years from the Wikipedia list of antipoes to make a point when the role was contested. In the case of the ones between 1378-1418, where a bloody mess is an understatement (I would rather read history on the war of the roses), there have been significantly fewer violent disagreements regarding the title/position since then)

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      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Hell I’m sure you could probably throw a bunch of even earlier dates in from back when the Catholics and Orthodox were united under the Chalcedonian Roman Church.

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m… What? WTF, is that headline trying to tell me that I’m experiencing an aneurysm?

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    • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The pope doesn’t like AI, brandished a sword and called people idiots. More at 11

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      • LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s kinda based ngl. Too bad the Catholic church is an awful organization.

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  • lofuw@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    AI is just the next form of control after businesses have already infiltrated online forums.

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  • dukemirage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    a broken clock

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  • obinice@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Passive consumers of unthought thoughts”?

    You mean… like a religion brainwashes you into becoming as you’re indoctrinated?

    Maybe this guy is being decent, or maybe he just sees a threat to his monopoly?

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  • MortUS@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The enemy of my enemy and all that. If dude can convince any of his followers to wake the fuck up then let the man speak; we could use the numbers.

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  • RedFrank24@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “passive consumers of unthought thoughts” is an apt way of putting it. With AI, it’s so easy not to think and have it think for you, even in things that you should really want to think about because it’s entertaining.

    For example, I’ve been re-watching Game of Thrones, and I wondered how things would have changed if Joffrey had a father figure in his life that wasn’t Robert, say a teacher in swordsmanship. I could spend a lot of time thinking about how Cersei would see this teacher as a rival and want him dead, whether Robert would protect that teacher because he’s making Joffrey into more of a ‘man’, whether Joffrey being trained as a swordsman would make him braver, and even if everything happened as written up to the Blackwater, would Joffrey find his courage and go out into battle, and ultimately get killed by one of Stannis’ soldiers? What would happen to Sansa?

    Or… I could just ask ChatGPT, get a quick answer, and forget all about it.

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    • Baggie@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Dude I think at this point you’re medically required to write that fanfiction. 

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      • klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I was going to ask if they’d heard of AO3, because yeah. I think it’d do at LEAST one number

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  • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yo, where can I get me a pope sword?

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    • JustTesting@lemmy.hogru.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨minute⁩ ago

      I got mine from kultofathena.com 20 years ago for 40 bucks (though with fancier blade), but just checked and don’t think they sell it anymore.

      Image

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  • public_image_ltd@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Who cares what the head of a child molesting cult thinks or said.

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  • vane@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Pope message vatican.va/…/20260124-messaggio-comunicazioni-soc…

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  • halfapage@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is the way the papacy has been for 13 years now.

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  • ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean… a religious leader accusing people of being “passive consumers of unthought thoughts”… am I the only one seeing some irony here?

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  • badbytes@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Pope can’t handle the competition.

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    • Darkmoon_AU@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Savage 😉

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  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Orange Catholic bible when?

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    • SpikesOtherDog@ani.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      May 2001

      godblesstheusabible.com

      It’s based off New King James, which is the official Catholic text. This is the Orange Catholic Bible.

      Don’t forget the official White House image of Pope Trump. x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1918502592335724809?lang=…

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      • Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        https://godblesstheusabible.com/

        What the fuck this is?

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    • Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hahaha, I totally forgot about this, but the reference is almost scary in a way. Life imitating art and pretty fantastical elements of science fiction becoming reality.

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  • Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What a weird world we live in.

    I am an atheist (albeit I support our national churches/religious entities and believe they should be state financed) and it is fascinating that I agree with Leo XIV on a ethical, moral and even theological/spiritual level.

    P.S. While I don’t believe in a meta-physical, abrahamic tradition-style god, I do thing there is a lot of wonder, beauty and even sacredness (divinity) to the cosmos. Something along the lines of this quote from a book by Alan Watts:

    The universe is the Big Bang, the beginning of the universe. And you’re not something that is a result of it. You’re not something that is a sort of byproduct of it. You are it. It’s like when you take a bottle of ink and you throw it at a white wall. Smash! And all the ink spreads out. In the middle, it’s dense, isn’t it? And as it gets out on the edge, the little droplets get finer and finer and make more complicated patterns.

    So in the same way, there was a big bang at the beginning of things and it spread. And you and I, sitting here in this room, as complicated human beings, are the little fringes on the edge of that bang. We are the way it’s going now.

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    • NABDad@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “In the beginning the universe was created. This made a lot of people angry and has widely been considered as a bad move.”

      -Douglas Adams

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    • db2@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I am an atheist (albeit I support our national churches/religious entities and believe they should be state financed)

      What the actual fuck?

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      • Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Another poster mentioned “That’s a very European mindset.” It’s not an exclusively a European mindset, I’ve lived for several years in Asia and have visited multiple regions. This “mindset” is arguably common even among those who are not particularly religious.

        National religious institutions provide a sense of belonging to the populace, help maintain our national identity and culture and help our national liberation struggle. Even as an atheist, these are clearly good things.

        And there is no discrimination in terms of religious identity. I support our Orthodox Church, Catholic Church (which is actually much more diverse than in many countries) and the Crimean Muslim leadership.

        One can argue this is not a mindset, but common sense and that American attitudes are a mindset.

        From my time living in the US (several years, with extensive travels), I got the impression that America nominally has “separation of church and state”, but it in reality this separation does not exist. A significant portion of American Christianity (perhaps not the majority, but it is a huge portion, far more than most Americans would admit) is de facto an arm of the oligarch regime, focused on enabling tax fraud, spreading crime and corruption and running political bribery systems. And you can’t even shut them down because of the alleged “separation of church and state”. It’s funny how that works. :)

        There is one anecdote that perfectly demonstrates what I am talking about:

        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/joel-osteen-megachurch-houston-beryl-response-b2576711.html

        And the cherry on top was a comment that I found when doing a web search to find the link above:

        If churches opened their doors, they’d be subject to the same criminal and legal risk that any other private business would be responsible for. The world is not a perfect utopia, and churches have to protect themselves as much as anyone else. Why don’t you open your doors?

        This is extremely funny. 🤣

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      • theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s a very European mindset.

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  • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Being the head of the longest-running pedophile ring in history doesn’t give one much high ground to chastise from.

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  • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Amen

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  • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He’s just mad the church of shrimp Jesus is leaving him in the dust.

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  • Samsy@lemmy.ml ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Interesting, I thought an AI Jesus/Pope would be a benefit for the Catholic Church. I mean look at what they used the last centuries to bring people to believing in god.

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  • Akasazh@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I honestly though Pope Bob would be a bit sterner on Trump, but it’s Pius XII over again.

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