Ok, boomer
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qevlarr@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Managed this as a millennial - had absolutely nothing to do with my parents helping pay half my deposit. Nope, absolutely nothing to do with that whatsoever.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I have an offer for a family member to pay the entire deposit and I’m still not buying a house. I’m in top percentile income too but I’d rather retire early and meagerly rent than be stuck holding the bag.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You can afford a home on a single income if your income is 3-4x of the value of the home, roughly.
vithigar@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Average annual family income in the US is around $80k/a. Are you seriously suggesting that families should be looking for homes in the $20k to $30k range? What kind of home, exactly, do you think you get for that?
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You can afford a home on a single income if the home is 3-4x that of your income, roughly.
FTFY
rbos@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The building next door, with 4 units of 1100sqft each (spread over three floors, ughhhh) is $1.6 million CAD per unit.
InputZero@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s a really big brush you’ve got there, really painting everything in broad strokes.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Yes its everyone else’s fault
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Poster is the grandma from the picture, can we get an AMA?
Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The secret ingredient is lead poisoning. The Baby Boomer generation spent over half their lives sniffing leaded gasoline fumes.
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Ding ding ding!
The reason it feels like people from that era are angrier and dumber than they used to be is because they literally are! It’s literal brain damage!
StewNasty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Yeah, turns out that lead in gasoline ain’t so great for the brain. I remember being oddly fascinated the first time I saw the correlation of lead being pulled from gas and violent crime plummeting 30 years later. You can see it in graphs from all across the world and can damn near set your watch to it.
Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
They still do. General aviation still uses 100LL aka low lead
chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Blood concentrations of lead are laughable today compared to when leaded gas was in cars. It’s a decrease of 94%. Yes, we still have a lead problem. No, it is no longer anywhere near as bad as it was.
Taldan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The FAA finally approved 100UL (unleaded), so the US is on track to stop using 100LL in most cases within the next 20 years
EPA has tight regulations on washing your plane though, so there’s no problem with lead /s
Disclaimer: It’s better than nothing that the EPA tried to do something, but the government really should have gotten their shit together and approved 100UL decades ago
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
While lead pipes were banned in 1986, millions of lead service lines remain in service across the US to this day…
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Gen X kid walked arduous hikes uphill back from school in the La Cañada foothills in San Fernando Valley, id est, the Los Angeles smog bowl from ~1975 to 1985. I may literally have lead poisoning brain damage.
I don’t know how I’d get checked. 58 now.
Curiously, I empathize with kids these days but am also extremely left-wing, and see each generation getting dismissed by the previous one as having it too easy.
Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I do not dismiss the next generation as having it too easy. Their minimum wage is what mine was when I young. They are basically in a ponzi scheme economy. They are either going to have to endure this distopia or violently overthrow it.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The boomers have lost all respect
“Ok Boomer” means “that’s nice, now go sit down grandpa, the adults who live in realityare talking”
bytesonbike@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
I treat it like, “Ah I see you shared an opinion in public that is the reason your family abandoned you. And here you are, alone in society - still holding on to your shitty thoughts, and you will die alone.”
MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Except it gets misused on those of us who were the boomers first victims.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The boomers are like people who think misandry is real. Not necessarily in need of torture and public execution, but definitely not worth listening to.
DesolateMood@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Genuinely can’t tell if this is a joke or not lmao
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Slurs, contrary to popular belief, do have some utility
big_slap@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
slurs used on people for things you cant control ❌️ slurs used on people for things 100% in their control ✅️
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
For a community called “LemmyShitPost” there is an awful lot of gold here.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Lemmy’s shit is someone else’s dinner
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
🤤
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I feel like it’s more bleeding into, ok x-er now.
Not to say that all of Gen X’s like this, but I’m definitely seeing some of the older ranks falling into this sort of behavior
Sabata11792@ani.social 2 weeks ago
My GenX dad sure shut the fuck up about the job market and economy once he had to find a new one. He gave up and retired after working a handful of shitty ones after he got laid off the good job.
gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
My GenX dad calling me and complaining about how much Indeed sucked for finding jobs was extremely validating.
Mac@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
he gave up and retired
I wish i could do that.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
[deleted]GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes. But where is the most common? I think that’s the point. That they are usually of the boomer variety.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Gen X here, sadly can confirm :( I see what used to be friends turn into selfish people, ignorant derps or conspiracy/russia shills. Or a combination thereof. It’s depressing to watch this process up close and have no antidote.
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Let me Tell you a story from a whippersnapper if you care to listen. When I was young and roaming the digital wild West, there’s one thing I kept seeing from my peers. People saying “as a millennial/ gen. Z, I’m sorry for my generation” This is always stuck with me as something that was depressing in and of itself, but that also gave me pause for the idea that we needed to be sorry for something in the first place. They were apologizing for stupid things like memes or childish behavior, but I had seen them do these things in the past and have a great time doing it.
The main thing this taught me is that people are a product of their time and the current time. It’s usually not worth it to just write these people off as lost souls, but rather to reach out and try to peel back that layer of societal contempt. There’s still a human under there and they still have some of the old ideals you used to know, just under a layer of dust. When I see my peers changing nowadays, I don’t let that affect my perception of them, I still remember them as the Goofy 14-year-olds shouting swag in the hallways. Now, whenever I meet up with them, I make the effort to brush off whatever nonsense they’re going on about now and peel back that layer to see the version of them that I know and grew up with.
It’s easier than you might think, just takes a few well placed laughs and you’ve got your friends back
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Im GenX, and Ill say it. You are all moaning gits, too stupid to get out for your own way because the upvotes from saying “popular thing” are just too good. Every comment I read, goes into this issue like they want to buy a forever home right off the bat in the fancy part of town. Its no wonder people cant afford anything with that mentality.
In 2003, I bought a 25% share of a single bedroom flat in the shitty part of town. It was 8k. I was earning around £4.50 an hour, before tax and national insurance. This was me getting on the ladder. As the cost of housing increased, so did my investment, and I kept on saving. So ten years later, I was able to sell and get into a bigger house in a less shit part of town. Another 10 years later, same thing, only now Im in a pretty OK part of town in a 3 bedroom detached, and it all it took was not being a fucking idiot with my money. And before you accuse me of being rich, I have never once earned more than 30k a year.
So what are people pissing their money away on that I didnt? Well, I cant speak to avocado toast, but I can point to cigarettes and drinking as some of the main reasons why I own a home and no one else I grew up with does.
The Average smoker smokes 10 a day, thats 1 20 deck very 2 days. The average cost of a 20 deck is around 15 quid. So on cigarettes along, thats already 225 quid a month. The average person in the UK has at least one night out a week. The average night out costs around 60 quid. Thats 240 quid. Thats a total of 465 quid per month on just smoking and drinking. Or 5,580 quid a year. Over 10 years thats 55,800 quid. And if you are telling me, that THAT is not enough to get a deposit for a house? Im sorry, Im calling bullshit.
Things might not be as easy as they once were, and yes the prices are stupid, and yes landlords are cunts, but people keep on talking like they have no options. The average wage of a full time worker in the UK is 37k a year. There is zero reason that a person making that much cant save as I have outlined here, and get themselves a deposit for a mortgage that will allow them to be able to afford somewhere to live. But if you want to live in a major city… well, thats a YOU problem. Theres plenty of housing around cities with minimal travel times that are inside values Ive outlined here. A lot of people need to get out of their own way, and stop making excuses. If you want to be able to afford a house, you have to make some sacrifices.
Skrufimonki@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
What the fuck are you on about?
First your not even on topic here for this thread for this comment. Typical.
I want you to do a little mental exercise, put a pin on the shit you just said and translate all your life efforts to today’s economic situation. Example.
Your 8k in 2003 was about 14k in today’s market. That 8k was %25 of the total amount so your first buying the flat cost around $56,000 (2003) , $98,601(2025).
I want you to font a flat, house whatever that is Liviable for that price. 100k. Easy peasy right? I won’t even try to explain to you the current pay differences cause you likely wouldn’t listen anyways.
From a genX that just hit the 50s and is technically now part of this boomer group,
Ok Boomer.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes, but it has nothing to do with generations, or age. I prefer “MAGA” to boomer, because I think that’s the group most people have a problem with. MAGA does not correlate well with age. MAGA comes in all ages, and even cuts across class. With the rich class supporting it because it’s to their advantage, and the bigots of the poor class supporting it because they are bigots and ignorant.
Damarus@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
MAGA is a group of people in the US. This phenomenon however is worldwide, and nobody in other countries is going to use a US reference for it.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Boomers are a US generation though. Where I live, boomers would’ve been born in the early 90s. Thats when we had the baby boom.
Miaou@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
MAGAs and boomers are different groups (that’s why the words are spelt differently)
joyjoy@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Maybe using MAGA as a slur will work better than calling them weird.
Jivebunny@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
maggats
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
The hardship Boomers had was mostly far away and hypothetical. They grew up with the constant threat of nuclear war.
The old Star Trek episode “Gary Seven” has an interesting take on this. Boomers expected that civilization would end before they got to adulthood. Then it didn’t, and they had no idea what to do with themselves.
Then they come to a time when they’re resented by both their parents and their children. The Greatest Generation was horny after the war and literally fucked the Boomers into existence, but realized too late that they didn’t actually like having children. Boomers treated their children the way their parents treated them. Gen X sorta puts up with it, but Millennials aren’t having it.
Other than that, capitalism knew by the 1950s that if they push the working class too hard, they’ll revolt. Better to back off the money printer a little to make sure we can keep running it for as long as possible. And so the working class could have a reasonably comfy life doing the same trades for their whole working life (provided they were white). Over time, capitalism found that it can keep a working class revolt from happening by dividing the working class against each other; racism and religion works pretty well. Then it was time to overclock the money printer.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Boomers expected that civilization would end before they got to adulthood.
I figured that was our (Gen X) curse. I remember being fairly sure I’d not see age 20, given all the dystopian nightmares that seemed to surround us. Maybe it was all the boomer-created media we were saturated in.
I seem to recall Douglas Coupland writing on that in much more evocative ways than I could ever muster…but then, even though he coined “Generation X”, I think he’s one of the very oldest in that generation.
Triumph@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
I'm so old that I used to tell this story to people to figure out if they were too young to bother with:
A friend and I were in a cheap restaurant for breakfast after being up all night. Server brings the drinks we ordered, sets them down, goes about her business.
"... Hey! This isn't orange juice. This is Tang. Who does she think we are, astronauts??"
IWW4@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
What does this have to do with the topic at hand?
Triumph@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
You're gonna gatekeep shitposting, really?
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ngl tang is awesome. mom made a tang pie recipe we saw on tasting history and it was delish
obinice@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hah, your powers of deduction won’t work on me! For I am young, and not even from the same continent as the USA so Tang never existed here!
But I know the link between NASA and Tang because I’m a NERD! MUHAHAHAHA (It wasn’t ever actually Tang that flew but rather a NASA concoction, but boy is it good advertising!)
One particular astronaut was once caught on a hot mic complaining that he was extremely sick and tired of drinking the juice they provided and made them drink in significant quantities during the flight… I’ll leave you to go look the details of what he said and why they insisted they drink so much of it, because I want you to get sucked in to Apollo history too 😈
Kayday@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I was told the other day by someone younger than me that saying “okay boomer” is cringe now. The new hot hip fan-didly-tastic slang is “unc status” or “aunt status”, apparently. Means the same thing, but in sleek Gen-Z packaging.
CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Okay zoomer.
luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I feel like there is always some level of condescension when talking about other generations of slang and I wonder why. There’s a smack of snark to the redundant duplicated repetition of “hot hip fan-didly-tastic” and “sleek Gen-Z packaging”, and “cringe” is obviously derogatory. Can’t we casually accept that “the new slang is” what it is, and set an example for the younger ones in turn?
Couldn’t contemporary colloquialisms coexist comfortably?
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I love using the new slang. It makes my kid turn red, which I find hilarious.
RidderSport@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Fuck I am too old for my own generation. Mentally and from my speaking I am way more millenial than gen z
Turret3857@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
You arent alone lmao
thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I feel like “having it easier” can be relative. I definitely have it easier than my grandmother who is a black woman born in the late 1930s who only had a high school education. I’ve even had an easier life than my parents in many ways, even if they did achieve the “American Dream”. I may not be able to afford a house right now, but everything else has been easier as a whole so far. I’m in the USA, so we’ll see how the rest of it goes.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But “okay boomer” has just become a bland, flavorless retort that gets said by anyone to anyone for any reason.
It isn’t an expression of frustration at an audience that rejects facts and reason, it is a pithy retort that gets thrown out to say “STFU” to someone in slightly more polite terms.
Like, the root of this isn’t unfair. But as with so much internet lingo, the initial intent has been polluted by online gooners who latch on to a phrase and use it as a barb rather than to convey any particular kind of coherent message.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I guess it’s to be expected. Boomers were raised in pure bliss, spent half their lives relatively stress-free. Everything was easy and cheap. When you live an easy life, you get used to being dumb, uninformed and lazy. The same would have probably happened to all zoomers in the same situation.
Note that this is mostly specific to North America, Western Europe, Japan and maybe a few other countries. Pretty much everywhere else boomers aren’t all that different from zoomers, save for regular intergenerational differences.
tino@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m 45, so not a boomer but already too old to get any respect from people in their 30’s (90% of my colleagues for example). Simply speaking about something they didn’t experience (reading a map, installing an OS, meeting the love of your life without a dating app…) gets me a “Ok Boomer” each time so what do I do? I just shut the fuck up. I’m not worried, they’ll be in my position very quickly.
iamacar@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There’s only two things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other people’s generation, and the millennials.
TommyJohnsFishSpot@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
👍
not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can also be used to refer to a boomer who seems surprisingly OK.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
i have respect for my grandparents so i dont call them this but when they bring up stuff i just nod becuase its better to let them ramble than sit there and argue with someone who could have a heart attack.
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
And then it got appropriated and misused so that anything, even perfectly reasonable statements like “you should be cleaning your butthole when you shower” by literally anybody even 27 year old men, gets a response of “okay boomer”.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
They were channeling their inner Gen X with that one. “Whatever.”
hannahbelles@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s definitely based on where you live… Whether you get a USDA backed loan, etc… I financed my house, 15 yrs ago when rates were between 3 and 6 percent. 2200sqft 3br, 2 bath, with half finished basement on a half acre, and deeded lake access point (Lake Norman) they wanted 120K, but I talked them down to 100K. Since it’s out in the country ( about 15 minutes from the city), it qualified for USDA, which means no closing costs, 30 year FIXED RATE. I pay $650 a month for my mortgage…Only downside is that it was built in 1973, but there are so many houses out here like this, just sitting…
Nomad@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
I always kinda wonder if they went the same experience of being misunderstood by their previous generation. Old people get inflexible and its also an indication the world is still changing alot with each generation. Still the lack of self reflection is astonishing.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
When I was growing up, my mom loves using the phrase which would roughly translates to “while you are still going forward, I’m turning back”, which is a thought terminating cliché to mean do as she says because she has experience. She doesn’t say it as much as she used to because she regrets having been a strict parent. But if she pulls that line again, I have a comeback ready to tell her “you’ve turned back, but the environment you grew up in changed”.
badbytes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Works both ways Though. I’m hearing over and over from groups that consider themselves victims, having similar sentiment, but shocked when the other group behaves the same way.
Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Failures in education and misunderstanding aren’t unique to any one generation.
Think about how the right wing genz have completely abandoned gender and racial equality and are voting against green politicians.
Think about how millennials have embraced AI and get their news from corporate-controlled social media despite all the evidence for its harmful effects on democracy and critical thinking. The millennials who support the genocide in Gaza.
People aren’t convinced by the fakeness of modern media and want to believe what they already believe. That’s something that’s affecting all the generations.
You can call me a boomer and you’d be wrong.
Hikermick@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They have it backwards. Young people think old people had it easy. This is their justification for not trying. Truth is every generation has it’s challenges. Rather than turn to social media for validation, look for information. There’s no one-size-fits-all solution for everyone but if you’re facing a challenge, someone before you faced the same. Don’t listen to those who tell you not to try. Listen to folks who succeeded, what worked, what didn’t.
PS The only derogatory I can say about the young generation as a whole is, where the fuck is your rock and roll? You’re listening to your grandparent’s music. Lame.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I feel like this is also a Gen Z thing. Millennials try so hard with everything all the time, Gen Z probably thinks that’s annoying (but maybe cute how naive and stupid we are to still try?). So “Ok Boomer” it is, which makes the exact effort to deal with boomers as boomers make in dealing with everything other than themselves.
YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I just find these reductive generalisations a bit silly and divisive. As if anyone born between arbitrary years x and y is part of some sort of united collective that can reasonably critique everyone born between years v and w.
Eq0@literature.cafe 2 weeks ago
This gives me flashbacks to the one time in my life I really wanted to answer “okay boomer”
My father in law was supporting the claim the climate change might exist, but it’s nothing we have to concern ourselves about because it’s going to take decades to do anything.
And I was like: you have grandkids, they will be there in decades! And: you just experienced the first drought of your country, how is that not climate change??
After half an hour going in rounds I gave up and bit my tongue to not torpedo our relationship. Two years later he admitted that maybe there was something about climate change nowadays…
Asafum@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Decades ago my stepmother did this in front of her 8 year old daughter… I was like, ok you’ll be dead, and you don’t need to care about me as your stepson, but what about her?
Ughh… Now her and my dad are MAGA…
SARGE@startrek.website 2 weeks ago
I’m so glad my wife is basically no contact with her parents, because I never have to play nice with them.
Eq0@literature.cafe 2 weeks ago
In my case, they are overall nice and caring people with, sometimes, a bit of a blind spot. I was very glad when they came around on the climate change issue, that was the only sore spot between us.
LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
At least they changed their mind (a little bit). I think this is a huge part of the problem: admitting an error and being supported for that admission is something that is frowned upon in certain groups. I think toxic masculinity plays one big factor here. Admitting errors is seen as “not masculine”, especially within conservative groups.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
it’s frown upon by every group.
nice way to blame ‘masculinity’ though.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
dude torpedo the relationship, who gives a fuck. if they want to be ignorant fucks and ruin their relationship with their child, that’s on them
they won’t change if there are no repercussions
BigDiction@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You advocate blowing up a parent-child relationship just for not getting the instant gratification of convincing them to change their political views in a single day?
That’s decades of history prior and more in the future hopefully. Some things just take time.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Life is too short to bother maintaining relationships with people like that. They can rot away in lonely isolation, like they deserve.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
the vote though. and they vote a lot more than the people who don’t vote…
Eq0@literature.cafe 2 weeks ago
You know one snippet of my father in law. Is it really sufficient for you to judge the whole man? I sure hope never to be judged so harshly!