Not saying this is wrong but sometimes you need to look in the mirror as well. It’s never just one thing. Also, throw away the boomer blame game and refocus on the rich 10%, who are more than just boomers now.
Ok, boomer
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melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 5 months ago
It’s never worth your time or effort to have a discussion/argument with someone who isn’t going to participate in good faith.
comeonitsnotlike@feddit.nu 5 months ago
That is spot on. I have just concluded that it isn’t my responsibility to educate my parents. And since they don’t listen anyway, I also realized that since that is the case, we have not become closer through the years; but actually the opposite. And that all because they’re not willing to accept facts, because they’re lazy and entitled.
YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I just find these reductive generalisations a bit silly and divisive. As if anyone born between arbitrary years x and y is part of some sort of united collective that can reasonably critique everyone born between years v and w.
Olmai@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Boomer is no longer only referring to a generation, it’s also about the stereotypical mindset that now applies to younger people as well
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 months ago
ok boomer.
Hikermick@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They have it backwards. Young people think old people had it easy. This is their justification for not trying. Truth is every generation has it’s challenges. Rather than turn to social media for validation, look for information. There’s no one-size-fits-all solution for everyone but if you’re facing a challenge, someone before you faced the same. Don’t listen to those who tell you not to try. Listen to folks who succeeded, what worked, what didn’t.
PS The only derogatory I can say about the young generation as a whole is, where the fuck is your rock and roll? You’re listening to your grandparent’s music. Lame.
FlembleFabber@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Ok boomer
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
PS The only derogatory I can say about the young generation as a whole is, where the fuck is your rock and roll? You’re listening to your grandparent’s music. Lame.
I think about this all the time, actually. I think part of it is that music is so atomized into a zillion sub-genres, and there doesn’t seem to be really big zeitgeist-level types of things. Streaming vs. curating has changed the dynamics back to being more similar to what the boomers started off with, ironically, when they were buying 45’s, and before albums became a thing. :)
Anyway, the things that make the really big $$$ all seem rather nutless and uninspiring, if you ask me. Where is the music that might scare the parents?
But then, if you look back at what was charting in a given decade, you might be surprised at how schmaltzy things were way back, too. Look at the Seventies, as a for instance, and see what the top 40 was playing.
n0respect@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Where is the music that might scare the parents?
Phonk wass fun in a 2 Fast 2 Furious kind of way. Well, the 5 phonk songs that are good, then everyone else copied those. I think its a dead genre now.
Hyperpop is current. It’s super-broad and I’m not sure if there is a great definition. Apparently someone called SOPHIE is like a godmother to this genre before she passed away. From my research hyperpop has become an overly broad genre, ranging from maximalist happy-breakcore (which is how I know it) to depressed autotune mumble rap.
SOPHIE might scare you. I"ve been flipping through her singles as I write this. Like hyperpop itself, her style is very varied. But generally breaks from traditional conventions of both pop and edm.
Hikermick@lemmy.world 5 months ago
IMO a big factor is that the production quality of music (as well as movies and TV) hit a point where it no longer sounds or looks as dated. Digital remastering cleans up any flaws, now the only tip off to the age is content.
Yeah I’m hip to the schmaltzy tunes of the 70’s, I’m a big fan. Looking at you BJ Thomas.
I’m sure there is good rock going on now, it’s just not making it into the mainstream. I’m a product of 80’s punk rock. It never got mainstream attention but it did spawn acts that did in the 90’s.
TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
oskibi doomer
tino@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’m 45, so not a boomer but already too old to get any respect from people in their 30’s (90% of my colleagues for example). Simply speaking about something they didn’t experience (reading a map, installing an OS, meeting the love of your life without a dating app…) gets me a “Ok Boomer” each time so what do I do? I just shut the fuck up. I’m not worried, they’ll be in my position very quickly.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I mean, I’m going to invite everyone of every age to strip bottomless, take any “back in my day we didn’t have your fancy [whatever]” bitching an moaning you have to do, dip it in honey, roll it in sand, and cram it up your exposed ass.
I’m 38. In my mid-20s, I taught flight school, mainly to people twice my age, and this included a fairly large section on reading Sectional Aeronautical Charts. I’ve got zero fucks to give for someone 7 years my senior pulling “back in my day we had maps” shit.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Thebular@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Bro, I’m 28 and I feel this way. It’s like I became uncool overnight
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
The hardship Boomers had was mostly far away and hypothetical. They grew up with the constant threat of nuclear war.
The old Star Trek episode “Gary Seven” has an interesting take on this. Boomers expected that civilization would end before they got to adulthood. Then it didn’t, and they had no idea what to do with themselves.
Then they come to a time when they’re resented by both their parents and their children. The Greatest Generation was horny after the war and literally fucked the Boomers into existence, but realized too late that they didn’t actually like having children. Boomers treated their children the way their parents treated them. Gen X sorta puts up with it, but Millennials aren’t having it.
Other than that, capitalism knew by the 1950s that if they push the working class too hard, they’ll revolt. Better to back off the money printer a little to make sure we can keep running it for as long as possible. And so the working class could have a reasonably comfy life doing the same trades for their whole working life (provided they were white). Over time, capitalism found that it can keep a working class revolt from happening by dividing the working class against each other; racism and religion works pretty well. Then it was time to overclock the money printer.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Boomers expected that civilization would end before they got to adulthood.
I figured that was our (Gen X) curse. I remember being fairly sure I’d not see age 20, given all the dystopian nightmares that seemed to surround us. Maybe it was all the boomer-created media we were saturated in.
I seem to recall Douglas Coupland writing on that in much more evocative ways than I could ever muster…but then, even though he coined “Generation X”, I think he’s one of the very oldest in that generation.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
“I haven’t learned how to communicate with people that have different ideas than me so I just come up with new slurs to call them!”
-post gets 10 to 1 upvotes somehow.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
No I don’t have the time for people who don’t have time for me. Every boomer in my life decided I was lazy, weak, dumb, or worthless before trying to actually take the time to see if that was true. Why should I have spent the time trying to convince them otherwise if they already didn’t care? It’s not like me showing them how wrong they were benefits me whatsoever. Wasted energy that could be better spent improving my life and the lives of people who do care.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Aww you are such a victim! Want a hug?
SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
ok boomer
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I’m very likely younger than you.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I guess it’s to be expected. Boomers were raised in pure bliss, spent half their lives relatively stress-free. Everything was easy and cheap. When you live an easy life, you get used to being dumb, uninformed and lazy. The same would have probably happened to all zoomers in the same situation.
Note that this is mostly specific to North America, Western Europe, Japan and maybe a few other countries. Pretty much everywhere else boomers aren’t all that different from zoomers, save for regular intergenerational differences.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Eh, this seems to be looking at things with rose-colored glasses. That generation, in the prime of their youth, had to worry about getting drafted into going halfway around the world to fight a war of empire, for instance.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I guess it’s to be expected. Boomers were raised in pure bliss, spent half their lives relatively stress-free. Everything was easy and cheap. When you live an easy life, you get used to being dumb, uninformed and lazy. The same would have probably happened to all zoomers in the same situation.
I’m not a boomer, but this isn’t quite a fair characterization. Yes, they had cheap college, affordable cars, housing, lots of upward mobility that most of us would love to have today, but they lived through some shit too. Boomers were in their youth when humanity had its closest brush with global nuclear war when the bombers were in the air flying during the Cuban Missile Crisis. They lived everyday with a really good chance the world was going to end in nuclear war. They were the last generation to see a compulsory military draft and many know high school friends that were drafted and died in Vietnam. We think interest rates are bad these days making borrowing expensive. No shit they were having to get mortgages with a minimum of 18% and 19%:
This says nothing about the many racial and sexual discrimination issues that those groups faced making basic life even harder. In Canada it wasn’t until 1964 that a woman could open her own bank account without her husband’s consent. In the USA, redlining preventing people of color from buying homes in better areas denying them untold billions of dollars of generational wealth from real estate appreciation.
Absolutely give the out-of-touch boomers that are dismissive of the problems young people are facing today the shit boomers deserve. They did so much to harvest the benefits of the last century and leave the bill to the younger generations while simultaneously destroying environment for the later generations to thrive the way they did. Just don’t forget that each generation has its problems too and there hasn’t been a generation yet that has been entirely carefree.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 months ago
In Canada it wasn’t until 1964 that a woman could open her own bank account without her husband’s consent.
My mother would always remind me that in the United States, this was not lifted until 1974.
Trev625@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Just using the interest rate is an unfair comparison. You have to go get median house prices and median incomes as well to make a proper comparison. Just saying the rate was higher at some point is useless if we don’t also compare the prices and incomes because what really matters is affordability. Not saying your whole comment is wrong, just trying to say that this particular part seems to be biased in favor of the Boomers.
Median home price to median household income ratio This ratio is a key indicator of housing affordability. It measures how many years of the median household’s income are needed to purchase the median-priced home. Period Median Household Income Median Home Price Price-to-Income Ratio 1980 ~$21,000 ~$65,000 ~3.1x 2024 ~$85,000 ~$415,000 ~4.9x Comparison of mortgage payments Even with the high interest rates of the 1980s, the lower home values meant a smaller overall loan and a monthly payment that took up a smaller percentage of the median household income. Here is a side-by-side comparison of a hypothetical mortgage for a median-income household in 1980 and 2024: Mortgage metric Early 1980s 2024 Median income $22,000 $85,000 Median house price $47,000 $415,000 20% down payment $11,000 (~50% of annual income) $83,000 (~98% of annual income) Loan amount $36,000 $332,000 Interest rate 13% 7.5% Monthly payment $397 $2,321 Payment as % of gross income
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 months ago
For a community called “LemmyShitPost” there is an awful lot of gold here.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 5 months ago
Lemmy’s shit is someone else’s dinner
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
🤤
hannahbelles@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s definitely based on where you live… Whether you get a USDA backed loan, etc… I financed my house, 15 yrs ago when rates were between 3 and 6 percent. 2200sqft 3br, 2 bath, with half finished basement on a half acre, and deeded lake access point (Lake Norman) they wanted 120K, but I talked them down to 100K. Since it’s out in the country ( about 15 minutes from the city), it qualified for USDA, which means no closing costs, 30 year FIXED RATE. I pay $650 a month for my mortgage…Only downside is that it was built in 1973, but there are so many houses out here like this, just sitting…
Tedesche@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Further proof that intergenerational criticism in either direction is dumbass bullshit.
Kayday@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I was told the other day by someone younger than me that saying “okay boomer” is cringe now. The new hot hip fan-didly-tastic slang is “unc status” or “aunt status”, apparently. Means the same thing, but in sleek Gen-Z packaging.
luciferofastora@feddit.org 5 months ago
I feel like there is always some level of condescension when talking about other generations of slang and I wonder why. There’s a smack of snark to the redundant duplicated repetition of “hot hip fan-didly-tastic” and “sleek Gen-Z packaging”, and “cringe” is obviously derogatory. Can’t we casually accept that “the new slang is” what it is, and set an example for the younger ones in turn?
Couldn’t contemporary colloquialisms coexist comfortably?
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 5 months ago
I love using the new slang. It makes my kid turn red, which I find hilarious.
RidderSport@feddit.org 5 months ago
Fuck I am too old for my own generation. Mentally and from my speaking I am way more millenial than gen z
Turret3857@infosec.pub 5 months ago
You arent alone lmao
tomenzgg@midwest.social 5 months ago
Notably, – yet again – it’s also cribbing/misusing black slang/terminology; disappointing…
CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Okay zoomer.
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
And then it got appropriated and misused so that anything, even perfectly reasonable statements like “you should be cleaning your butthole when you shower” by literally anybody even 27 year old men, gets a response of “okay boomer”.
troglodytis@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ok boomer
Catalyst_A@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
But… but… participation trophies!
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 5 months ago
How is this shit post? It’s kids yelling into the internet about being right. You gave us the ick
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 months ago
When I was growing up, my mom loves using the phrase which would roughly translates to “while you are still going forward, I’m turning back”, which is a thought terminating cliché to mean do as she says because she has experience. She doesn’t say it as much as she used to because she regrets having been a strict parent. But if she pulls that line again, I have a comeback ready to tell her “you’ve turned back, but the environment you grew up in changed”.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
i have respect for my grandparents so i dont call them this but when they bring up stuff i just nod becuase its better to let them ramble than sit there and argue with someone who could have a heart attack.
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rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I feel like this is also a Gen Z thing. Millennials try so hard with everything all the time, Gen Z probably thinks that’s annoying (but maybe cute how naive and stupid we are to still try?). So “Ok Boomer” it is, which makes the exact effort to deal with boomers as boomers make in dealing with everything other than themselves.
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qevlarr@lemmy.world 5 months ago
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Managed this as a millennial - had absolutely nothing to do with my parents helping pay half my deposit. Nope, absolutely nothing to do with that whatsoever.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I have an offer for a family member to pay the entire deposit and I’m still not buying a house. I’m in top percentile income too but I’d rather retire early and meagerly rent than be stuck holding the bag.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You can afford a home on a single income if your income is 3-4x of the value of the home, roughly.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Poster is the grandma from the picture, can we get an AMA?
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Yes its everyone else’s fault
InputZero@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That’s a really big brush you’ve got there, really painting everything in broad strokes.
rbos@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
The building next door, with 4 units of 1100sqft each (spread over three floors, ughhhh) is $1.6 million CAD per unit.
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You can afford a home on a single income if the home is 3-4x that of your income, roughly.
FTFY
vithigar@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Average annual family income in the US is around $80k/a. Are you seriously suggesting that families should be looking for homes in the $20k to $30k range? What kind of home, exactly, do you think you get for that?
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The boomers have lost all respect
“Ok Boomer” means “that’s nice, now go sit down grandpa, the adults who live in realityare talking”
MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Except it gets misused on those of us who were the boomers first victims.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The boomers are like people who think misandry is real. Not necessarily in need of torture and public execution, but definitely not worth listening to.
DesolateMood@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Genuinely can’t tell if this is a joke or not lmao
bytesonbike@discuss.online 5 months ago
I treat it like, “Ah I see you shared an opinion in public that is the reason your family abandoned you. And here you are, alone in society - still holding on to your shitty thoughts, and you will die alone.”
Nomad@infosec.pub 5 months ago
I always kinda wonder if they went the same experience of being misunderstood by their previous generation. Old people get inflexible and its also an indication the world is still changing alot with each generation. Still the lack of self reflection is astonishing.
qevlarr@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Here’s the thing: They don’t need to get with the times, we don’t expect them to. But they should shut the hell up judging others. What’s screwed up is the selfishness and lack of empathy for people.
iamacar@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There’s only two things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other people’s generation, and the millennials.
MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ok millennial
Wilco@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
The secret ingredient is lead poisoning. The Baby Boomer generation spent over half their lives sniffing leaded gasoline fumes.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Gen X kid walked arduous hikes uphill back from school in the La Cañada foothills in San Fernando Valley, id est, the Los Angeles smog bowl from ~1975 to 1985. I may literally have lead poisoning brain damage.
I don’t know how I’d get checked. 58 now.
Curiously, I empathize with kids these days but am also extremely left-wing, and see each generation getting dismissed by the previous one as having it too easy.
Wilco@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
I do not dismiss the next generation as having it too easy. Their minimum wage is what mine was when I young. They are basically in a ponzi scheme economy. They are either going to have to endure this distopia or violently overthrow it.
Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Ding ding ding!
The reason it feels like people from that era are angrier and dumber than they used to be is because they literally are! It’s literal brain damage!
StewNasty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Yeah, turns out that lead in gasoline ain’t so great for the brain. I remember being oddly fascinated the first time I saw the correlation of lead being pulled from gas and violent crime plummeting 30 years later. You can see it in graphs from all across the world and can damn near set your watch to it.
Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
They still do. General aviation still uses 100LL aka low lead
Taldan@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The FAA finally approved 100UL (unleaded), so the US is on track to stop using 100LL in most cases within the next 20 years
EPA has tight regulations on washing your plane though, so there’s no problem with lead /s
Disclaimer: It’s better than nothing that the EPA tried to do something, but the government really should have gotten their shit together and approved 100UL decades ago
chuckleslord@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Blood concentrations of lead are laughable today compared to when leaded gas was in cars. It’s a decrease of 94%. Yes, we still have a lead problem. No, it is no longer anywhere near as bad as it was.
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 5 months ago
While lead pipes were banned in 1986, millions of lead service lines remain in service across the US to this day…
Shamber@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ok boomer
hellure@lemmy.org 1 month ago
Only I’m not a boomer dumbass, and I am right.
Check your facts, and stop trying to dismiss other people’s statements out of hand just because you think they’re a certain age.
Logical fallacy much?
Note: I’m not responding to OP directly, but instead to everyone who’s ever called me a fucking boomer!
dr_robotBones@reddthat.com 1 month ago
Ok boomer
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
‘ok boomer’ comes after someone says something extremely out of touch. If you repeatedly find yourself being ‘ok boomer’-d that’s probably a sign you’re the issue