TubularTittyFrog

Yeah, it’s a bad study. Still, studies on gender traits in people are fine. Though I wonder how they would be if they were cross-cultural or across various ethnically distinct populations etc.

What point? What are you describing that is useful to other people?

Like I can write you a poem about the depths of my soul and my uniqueness… but that doesn’t mean I am in anyway unique in terms of my biology.

What I’m saying is this is a weird conflationary argument. You can’t take a classificatory schema like sex and use it to be like ‘oh were all distinct and wonderful’ because that’s… not the point of the classification schema… it’s to identify you as one thing or another.

the authors argument is just kind of trivial… oh we are all unique mixes of gender traits… yeah so what? that doesn’t mean we aren’t male or female with marginal cases where one is clearly neither. the vast majority of us are one or the other.

but if you are promoting a social agenda here, which is what I suspect, than the triviality of this argument is ‘profound’ because it means ‘everyone is intersex’… which is precisely what someone agreed with, which is not doing biology… it’s doing philosophy.

but we live in a really weird time where people like… feel the need to make these things to ‘elevate’ us culturally or something. I remember all the radfem stuff in the 2000s that was like ‘we need to re-identify female without the womb’ or something… but it had nothing to do with science though often they’d try to make ‘scientific’ arguments to redefine female in a non-reproductive way, but that was not biology as a science, it was philosophy trying to redefine biological terms to push a social agenda as a ‘deeper truth’ or something.

there are no multidimensional graphs here. that’s my entire point. they are all 2d graphs with one axis.

the traits are each one thing, they aren’t multi dimensional.

again, this whole thing is bizarre and forced. traits are on a 2d spectrum of male or female.

having multiple traits doesn’t make sex identification multidimensional.

those are all two dimensional spectra dude. one end male, one end female.

reaching by calling it ‘multidimensional’ when the entire article is two dimentional classifications. that’s how.

placement of your gonads or breasts has nothing to do with how male or female you are. what are you talking about?

The author is really reaching here.

Defines everything as male or female, then wants to argue that everyone is unique or something… this is pretty trivial stuff.

Yeah, but Japanese society also is like… insanely hierarchical, sexist, and social conformist.

I mean there are options for sure. Every city typically has free events, lower cost events, and expensive events. Those typically aren’t a great way to meet new people so much as do them with existing people you know.

But the issue in my experience is that people socially sort themselves out of those categories. Like, people with any money would rather sit around feeling bad they don’t have more, than go to a event that costs 0 USD and associate with other 'poor people.

The proverbial Marx quote. Nobody wants to part of a club that would allow them to be a member.

lol, right anyone who disagrees with you is unhealthy… that’s not at all a toxic way to view the world.

sure, but you’re not really lonely, it’s that your socialization isn’t living up to your ideal of what it should be?

yeah, please prove my point by telling me how wrong and stupid i am.

i’m confused now, the issue is there are no hot single weebs in your area?

are you a hot single weeb?

so the issue isn’t your hobbies, it’s being poor.

Maybe it’s who you are? But it’s not necessary that way for everyone.

Lots of people experiment with sexual/gender identity in lots of different ways.

what about conventions?

those communites can be spending because they are overwhelmingly consist of middle and upper middle class folks.

Poor people typically don’t get to be so experimental with their identities and hobbies. They lack the existential and imaginative freedom that having disposable income provides.

what are you talking about? WASP isn’t a thing anymore, and most WASPs, if you mean ‘old money’ are not studying physics.

I mean, hate you who want to hate I guess? Weirdly specific thing to hate, that.

being WASP isn’t a common experience, nor is being a gamer, nor is being cishet. None of those is an identity in the way being trans or being an immigrant from Haiti is.

yeah, and not everyone lives in a city with nice big parks where you can do that.

it’s called minority solidarity.

immigrants do the same thing.

so do like minority groups in professional settings or similar.

you are supposed to socialize with people of your same economic level.

because as you point out, it’s not practical for you to afford what your friends can afford.

fwiw I totally relate. I was a poor kid at a rich kid college and it cause all sorts of social friction because simple could not afford to socialize. ended up only being friends with other poor kids.

i’m a relatively rich man, and everyone tells me i’m a sad loser for not opening up.

but also when I do open up, I’m a sad loser.

also, why am I whining, I should be making more money and getting richer, if I am content with my level of wealth, I’m not a ‘real man’.

I mean, a lot of people, men or women, actively choose to atomize themselves.

that’s true. male intimacy is activity based and less talk-based, and it’s devalued as such.

this also has a lot to do with male mental health. men improve their mental health by doing things, not by talking about feelings.

but our therapy industry/culture highly values talk therapy and regards intimacy as primarily verbal.

when i tell people, women specially, about what I do to maintain my mental health. they immediately dismiss it, because it’s not talk-therapy. if I’m not in talk therapy, I must be mentally ill, if I don’t have ‘deep’ talks about my feelings with friends, they can’t be real friends, etc.

you are entirely right, it’s a massive massive mismatch in expectations and definitions of what these things mean.

it’s not male-male relationships.

it’s every relationship.

Men are not people.

babies can be confident

there is a 10K/yr+ year premium on your height too. we love tall hot people. they get paid the most.

shorties get salary shafted

all folks have to do is all change their DOB on their job application to Leo or Aries, because those are the most confident star signs.

they aren’t. they are perceived as more confident.