Works both ways Though. I’m hearing over and over from groups that consider themselves victims, having similar sentiment, but shocked when the other group behaves the same way.
Ok, boomer
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badbytes@lemmy.world 5 months ago
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Haidt wrote a book about this. Victimhood is the new virtue. Everyone in this ‘victim’ economy is socially competing about who has the biggest/most legitimate grievances.
dariusj18@lemmy.world 5 months ago
[deleted]MotoAsh@piefed.social 5 months ago
lol no
Krauerking@lemy.lol 5 months ago
Dude, peole have been using that on 4chan since 2015 or earlier to tell people that they were out of touch with current affairs or the state of the world. Wasn’t aimed like that.
Making up your own history to throw hate is such a boomer thing to do.
thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I feel like “having it easier” can be relative. I definitely have it easier than my grandmother who is a black woman born in the late 1930s who only had a high school education. I’ve even had an easier life than my parents in many ways, even if they did achieve the “American Dream”. I may not be able to afford a house right now, but everything else has been easier as a whole so far. I’m in the USA, so we’ll see how the rest of it goes.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 months ago
don’t let context and subtly of reality get in the way of your intergenerational rage narrative!
my parents were stupid ignorant fucks… but the sad fact is their life circumstances meant they were never going to be anything but that.
and plenty of people think stupid and ignorant merely because I dont agree with their extremist political ideology or their doomer mindset or chasing whatever trend is popular on social media that month.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
They were channeling their inner Gen X with that one. “Whatever.”
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
As a Gen X person, this is kind of my response to any sort of right-wing nonsense now. Especially that thing where you say something that’s obviously true and they ask what your source is for that so they can nit-pick it and exhaust you with irrelevant bickering until you give up.
“Society seems to be degenerating into fascism again”
“oH yEaH wHaT iS uR sOuRcE”
“Outside.”
Or I’ll just be like “no” if I even bother responding at all. You’re probably just arguing with a bot to drive up engagement that benefits some rich dickhead somehow anyway. 100% not worth it IMO.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Yeah, it’s pretty easy to pick out someone who’s genuinely asking in good faith (extremely rare) and someone who just wants to own the wokies. As you say, 99% of the time engaging is a complete waste of time.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 months ago
it’s arguing in bad faith. as in you aren’t actually arguing or debating, they are just seeing to beat you down for not agreeing with them.
lemmy full of these types, despite their claims of being educated and data-driven or whatever. i had someone the other week tell me my citation of data form the USA Labor Bureau about jobs numbers was ‘lies’ because apparently statistics don’t count if Trump is in office… pointed out the data was from Biden to now and they just told me I was an idiot.
Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Failures in education and misunderstanding aren’t unique to any one generation.
Think about how the right wing genz have completely abandoned gender and racial equality and are voting against green politicians.
Think about how millennials have embraced AI and get their news from corporate-controlled social media despite all the evidence for its harmful effects on democracy and critical thinking. The millennials who support the genocide in Gaza.
People aren’t convinced by the fakeness of modern media and want to believe what they already believe. That’s something that’s affecting all the generations.
You can call me a boomer and you’d be wrong.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 months ago
It isn’t just a failure in education or misunderstanding.
For the most part, “OK Boomer” gets used when someone is expressing something as fact which may have used to be true, but no longer is. Maybe the use of the term has shifted over time, but that was the crux of that use.
not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Can also be used to refer to a boomer who seems surprisingly OK.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Can also be used if you agree with former Bengals QB Boomer Esiason.
merc@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Who was born in 1961 making him…
nailingjello@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Now I want to see someone wearing a shirt that says:
I’ve been told I’m an “OK Boomer”
not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 5 months ago
AngularViscosity@piefed.social 5 months ago
Ok, dad! 🙄
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yes, but it has nothing to do with generations, or age. I prefer “MAGA” to boomer, because I think that’s the group most people have a problem with. MAGA does not correlate well with age. MAGA comes in all ages, and even cuts across class. With the rich class supporting it because it’s to their advantage, and the bigots of the poor class supporting it because they are bigots and ignorant.
Damarus@feddit.org 5 months ago
MAGA is a group of people in the US. This phenomenon however is worldwide, and nobody in other countries is going to use a US reference for it.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Boomers are a US generation though. Where I live, boomers would’ve been born in the early 90s. Thats when we had the baby boom.
Miaou@jlai.lu 5 months ago
MAGAs and boomers are different groups (that’s why the words are spelt differently)
joyjoy@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Maybe using MAGA as a slur will work better than calling them weird.
Jivebunny@lemmy.world 5 months ago
maggats
Eq0@literature.cafe 5 months ago
This gives me flashbacks to the one time in my life I really wanted to answer “okay boomer”
My father in law was supporting the claim the climate change might exist, but it’s nothing we have to concern ourselves about because it’s going to take decades to do anything.
And I was like: you have grandkids, they will be there in decades! And: you just experienced the first drought of your country, how is that not climate change??
After half an hour going in rounds I gave up and bit my tongue to not torpedo our relationship. Two years later he admitted that maybe there was something about climate change nowadays…
LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Two years later he admitted that maybe there was something about climate change nowadays…
At least they changed their mind (a little bit). I think this is a huge part of the problem: admitting an error and being supported for that admission is something that is frowned upon in certain groups. I think toxic masculinity plays one big factor here. Admitting errors is seen as “not masculine”, especially within conservative groups.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 months ago
it’s frown upon by every group.
nice way to blame ‘masculinity’ though.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Life is too short to bother maintaining relationships with people like that. They can rot away in lonely isolation, like they deserve.
Eq0@literature.cafe 5 months ago
You know one snippet of my father in law. Is it really sufficient for you to judge the whole man? I sure hope never to be judged so harshly!
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 months ago
the vote though. and they vote a lot more than the people who don’t vote…
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
dude torpedo the relationship, who gives a fuck. if they want to be ignorant fucks and ruin their relationship with their child, that’s on them
they won’t change if there are no repercussions
BigDiction@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You advocate blowing up a parent-child relationship just for not getting the instant gratification of convincing them to change their political views in a single day?
That’s decades of history prior and more in the future hopefully. Some things just take time.
SARGE@startrek.website 5 months ago
bit my tongue to not torpedo our relationship
I’m so glad my wife is basically no contact with her parents, because I never have to play nice with them.
Eq0@literature.cafe 5 months ago
In my case, they are overall nice and caring people with, sometimes, a bit of a blind spot. I was very glad when they came around on the climate change issue, that was the only sore spot between us.
Asafum@feddit.nl 5 months ago
Decades ago my stepmother did this in front of her 8 year old daughter… I was like, ok you’ll be dead, and you don’t need to care about me as your stepson, but what about her?
Ughh… Now her and my dad are MAGA…
foodandart@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Just wait - Millennials and Gen-Z - until there’s a war and an active draft in the US again.
Venezuela anyone? (Dear God, I hope not but the current asshat in the Oval Orfice seems bent on taking a page from the Monroe Doctrine and adding teeth. Gotta justify Kegsbreath’s trillion dollar DOD budget plans after all…)
Shit’s gonna get VERY real and you may gain a bit of insight as to why 'boomers just gave up and “went condo” as they used to say.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Venezuela
that’ll just be the start, these fucks will have us kids patrolling the darien gap and defoliating the fucking continent given half a chance
slaacaa@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ok, boomer
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 months ago
There will never be another draft. Our military is to big, and we aren’t going to try to occupy anything. Drones knock down our deployment numbers drastically. Unless there was actually a war with someone like China or on our own soil, there is no need. We currently have about 2 million people already volunteered. Our largest force during the Afghanistan/Iraq bologna was around 100k. So we could send 10x that and not get into the reserves. Our military is way to damn big
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 months ago
The military also doesn’t want to go back to a draft army. Discipline and morale suck with a draft army and there is severe political blowback to casualties from drafted personnel.
A lot of reforms post Vietnam were made to make sure that the US military didn’t need to draft.
rauls5@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Ok. Don’t learn from others mistakes and wreck your life on your own.
Valmond@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ok Boomer.
TommyJohnsFishSpot@lemy.lol 5 months ago
👍
Triumph@fedia.io 5 months ago
I'm so old that I used to tell this story to people to figure out if they were too young to bother with:
A friend and I were in a cheap restaurant for breakfast after being up all night. Server brings the drinks we ordered, sets them down, goes about her business.
"... Hey! This isn't orange juice. This is Tang. Who does she think we are, astronauts??"
obinice@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Hah, your powers of deduction won’t work on me! For I am young, and not even from the same continent as the USA so Tang never existed here!
But I know the link between NASA and Tang because I’m a NERD! MUHAHAHAHA (It wasn’t ever actually Tang that flew but rather a NASA concoction, but boy is it good advertising!)
One particular astronaut was once caught on a hot mic complaining that he was extremely sick and tired of drinking the juice they provided and made them drink in significant quantities during the flight… I’ll leave you to go look the details of what he said and why they insisted they drink so much of it, because I want you to get sucked in to Apollo history too 😈
IWW4@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
What does this have to do with the topic at hand?
Triumph@fedia.io 5 months ago
You're gonna gatekeep shitposting, really?
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 5 months ago
ngl tang is awesome. mom made a tang pie recipe we saw on tasting history and it was delish
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 months ago
But “okay boomer” has just become a bland, flavorless retort that gets said by anyone to anyone for any reason.
It isn’t an expression of frustration at an audience that rejects facts and reason, it is a pithy retort that gets thrown out to say “STFU” to someone in slightly more polite terms.
Like, the root of this isn’t unfair. But as with so much internet lingo, the initial intent has been polluted by online gooners who latch on to a phrase and use it as a barb rather than to convey any particular kind of coherent message.
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Hey you leave gooners alone. They aren’t hurting anyone. They’re just jerking off.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They are Marxists, they are anarchists, they are agitators, they are looters, and they are people who, in many instances, have absolutely no clue what they are doing.
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 5 months ago
Like many meaningful pieces of language, its meaning has been diluted by those who increasingly do not understand it.
See also: Gaslighting, OCD, Anxiety, etc.
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 5 months ago
What sort of conversations are you having with your gf?
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Slurs, contrary to popular belief, do have some utility
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 months ago
But, also, they’re old, so millennials misuse phrases from the yooths
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I feel like it’s more bleeding into, ok x-er now.
Not to say that all of Gen X’s like this, but I’m definitely seeing some of the older ranks falling into this sort of behavior
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Im GenX, and Ill say it. You are all moaning gits, too stupid to get out for your own way because the upvotes from saying “popular thing” are just too good. Every comment I read, goes into this issue like they want to buy a forever home right off the bat in the fancy part of town. Its no wonder people cant afford anything with that mentality.
In 2003, I bought a 25% share of a single bedroom flat in the shitty part of town. It was 8k. I was earning around £4.50 an hour, before tax and national insurance. This was me getting on the ladder. As the cost of housing increased, so did my investment, and I kept on saving. So ten years later, I was able to sell and get into a bigger house in a less shit part of town. Another 10 years later, same thing, only now Im in a pretty OK part of town in a 3 bedroom detached, and it all it took was not being a fucking idiot with my money. And before you accuse me of being rich, I have never once earned more than 30k a year.
So what are people pissing their money away on that I didnt? Well, I cant speak to avocado toast, but I can point to cigarettes and drinking as some of the main reasons why I own a home and no one else I grew up with does.
The Average smoker smokes 10 a day, thats 1 20 deck very 2 days. The average cost of a 20 deck is around 15 quid. So on cigarettes along, thats already 225 quid a month. The average person in the UK has at least one night out a week. The average night out costs around 60 quid. Thats 240 quid. Thats a total of 465 quid per month on just smoking and drinking. Or 5,580 quid a year. Over 10 years thats 55,800 quid. And if you are telling me, that THAT is not enough to get a deposit for a house? Im sorry, Im calling bullshit.
Things might not be as easy as they once were, and yes the prices are stupid, and yes landlords are cunts, but people keep on talking like they have no options. The average wage of a full time worker in the UK is 37k a year. There is zero reason that a person making that much cant save as I have outlined here, and get themselves a deposit for a mortgage that will allow them to be able to afford somewhere to live. But if you want to live in a major city… well, thats a YOU problem. Theres plenty of housing around cities with minimal travel times that are inside values Ive outlined here. A lot of people need to get out of their own way, and stop making excuses. If you want to be able to afford a house, you have to make some sacrifices.
Skrufimonki@lemmynsfw.com 5 months ago
What the fuck are you on about?
First your not even on topic here for this thread for this comment. Typical.
I want you to do a little mental exercise, put a pin on the shit you just said and translate all your life efforts to today’s economic situation. Example.
Your 8k in 2003 was about 14k in today’s market. That 8k was %25 of the total amount so your first buying the flat cost around $56,000 (2003) , $98,601(2025).
I want you to font a flat, house whatever that is Liviable for that price. 100k. Easy peasy right? I won’t even try to explain to you the current pay differences cause you likely wouldn’t listen anyways.
From a genX that just hit the 50s and is technically now part of this boomer group,
Ok Boomer.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Gen X here, sadly can confirm :( I see what used to be friends turn into selfish people, ignorant derps or conspiracy/russia shills. Or a combination thereof. It’s depressing to watch this process up close and have no antidote.
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Let me Tell you a story from a whippersnapper if you care to listen. When I was young and roaming the digital wild West, there’s one thing I kept seeing from my peers. People saying “as a millennial/ gen. Z, I’m sorry for my generation” This is always stuck with me as something that was depressing in and of itself, but that also gave me pause for the idea that we needed to be sorry for something in the first place. They were apologizing for stupid things like memes or childish behavior, but I had seen them do these things in the past and have a great time doing it.
The main thing this taught me is that people are a product of their time and the current time. It’s usually not worth it to just write these people off as lost souls, but rather to reach out and try to peel back that layer of societal contempt. There’s still a human under there and they still have some of the old ideals you used to know, just under a layer of dust. When I see my peers changing nowadays, I don’t let that affect my perception of them, I still remember them as the Goofy 14-year-olds shouting swag in the hallways. Now, whenever I meet up with them, I make the effort to brush off whatever nonsense they’re going on about now and peel back that layer to see the version of them that I know and grew up with.
It’s easier than you might think, just takes a few well placed laughs and you’ve got your friends back
Sabata11792@ani.social 5 months ago
My GenX dad sure shut the fuck up about the job market and economy once he had to find a new one. He gave up and retired after working a handful of shitty ones after he got laid off the good job.
Mac@mander.xyz 5 months ago
I wish i could do that.
gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
My GenX dad calling me and complaining about how much Indeed sucked for finding jobs was extremely validating.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 5 months ago
GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yes. But where is the most common? I think that’s the point. That they are usually of the boomer variety.