Big Brother just got an upgrade. Starting December, Amazon’s Ring cameras will scan and recognize faces. Don’t want to be in their database? Too bad — walk past a Ring and your face can be stored...

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• michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Given any large database this is going to be a massive problem.

  Did someone steal your package?

  Do you want to know who did it?

  Will you settle for knowing which of the 385 people in the country look like your villain? Some of them may even be close enough to be falsely accused!

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• nonentity@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Need to normalise IR and UV LED strobe flares, blind those CCDs.

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• roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Not in Illinois it won’t. The states attorney will have Amazon for lunch.

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  • lauha@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In EU this is also illegal

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• Naich@lemmings.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This feels like it should be illegal in the EU.

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  • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Swede here, our laws disallow private security cameras from filming public areas.

    The law is so broad that it interfered with dashcams, disallowing them for years.

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    • JohnAnthony@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      It is more specific in France, but I actually dug around regulations a year ago when the other homeowners in my building wanted to install a security camera. The common parts of a residential building are considered somewhere in between public and private.

      The short version is you need majority approval, the tape can only be accessed if something happens, you can’t film apartments doors or windows and as few people as possible may have access. Which put quite a damper on my neighbours who were already celebrating how they would watch who enters and leaves the building at all times.
      Bunch of fucking weirdos.

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    • jpeps@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I wish we had more protection in the UK. Technically the law allows filming public property as long as it is not the direct focus, eg you film your front door and catch some of the street. But it’s not policed at all. Living on a terraced main road I cant leave my house without being filmed by at least 5 different neighbour’s cameras from a range of different American or Chinese companies. One camera literally just points towards a window of my own home. It’s insane, I feel like they’re all just standing outside watching me.

      Technically, I have the right to ask to see the footage they record and ask for adjustments to angles etc, but it’s left to individuals to do. I’d have to have an awkward individual conversation with a bunch of strangers (sad but true) about something I doubt they even consider an issue.

      I’d love to see some legislation that would require some publically accessible way to review what’s in camera for doorbell cams, but I guess that would just be seen as helping criminals.

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    • Dave@lemmy.nz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s really interesting. Is it specifically security cameras?

      Can you generally take videos of people in public places? Photos?

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  • SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I believe this is also illegal in some US States. I know of at least a couple that don’t allow biometric data to be stored without concent; I think Facebook even lost a case in one state and had to pay a pretty large sum of money.

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It most certainly is. There’s no way they’re implementing this here.

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    • primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      there’s no way

      What. You gonna make em? Once the data’s on their servers, they’ll do what they want.

      Unless you physically disallow and destroy their hardware that’s invaded your continent.

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  • 20cello@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Will it happen in Europe too?

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    • oce@jlai.lu ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This cannot happen in EU with the current GDPR, they would need to request and receive consent prior to collecting the face.

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• archchan@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m losing my mind. Ring cameras everywhere, Flock cameras, ID/face verification, everything Google touches, airports, Tesla car cameras, every modern car actually, Meta glasses, Chat Control every year, the OSA, stores using facial recognition (and other tracking), social media billionaire shenanigans, Samsung installing Israeli spyware and putting ads on the fridges, fuck even the Windows 11+Chrome+iPhone combo I see in public. I could keep going. We could all keep going.

  It’s too much. Idk anymore. This post broke me a little.

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  • HasturInYellow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m rapidly approaching the point where I got completely feral and begin smashing every advertisement and camera I see. Smashing large billboard screens and smearing shit on walls. Just to tear this monstrosity to the ground.

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  • biofaust@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I am Italian and I have much fewer reasons to feel like you, but I still do and, although loving the friends I made there, I know I will never again set foot in the USA, since this comes from a culture of surveillance dating back more than a century.

    I am actually offering temporary accomodation to any of my friends who may want to try his luck in the EU.

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    • BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The UK has a CCTV facial recognition system that’s quite massive, we’ve resisted such programs for the most part (a few cities have them but they’re not linked together).

      So it’s not like Europe is free of this.

      Here most of our camera systems are for our own use only, not for the government, with this giant exception.

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• moseschrute@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m very happy with my ubiquiti doorbell. It records to a local NVR on my network.

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  • raid_dad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I’ve been telling anyone that will listen about my ubiquiti setup. Storing the video data locally is the only scenario that I’m comfortable with. I can still remotely log into my network and check camera footage, but no one else has access to it.

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    • moseschrute@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Ubiquity has been awesome. I’m running a cloud gateway max and a single U7 pro wall AP. It was $400 all the networking stuff, and $300 for the doorbell. The doorbell was a little steep, but you gotta remember there’s no subscription. And after trying a bunch of routers, $400 is honestly a great value for the quality of the networking gear. And I have a ton of headroom for upgrades in the future.

      I’ve heard ubiquiti support isn’t the best for professional installments, but in the home, it’s been fantastic.

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• desmosthenes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  walk fast, carry stickers

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• psx_crab@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I went to my sister’s house yesterday, she lived in a gated community and to visit i have to let them take a picture of my face and then scan the cam for access. i thought that’s extremely obnoxious. This is far worst.

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  • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, no. I’d be inviting my sister to visit me instead.

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    • jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah this has to be super inconvenient for the residents. I imagine many delivery services, DoorDash, instacart, will refuse to do this bullshit. Forcing the resident to meet them at the gate, or just not receive service at all. I would be pressuring my HOA to end this policy.

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    • Mike_Hunt@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      you’re assuming she is allowed to leave

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    • primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’d be saying I was an only child.

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  • desmosthenes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    that’d be a nope from me

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• xxce2AAb@feddit.dk ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Like I needed more reasons to never leave the fucking house.

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  • primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Wear your balaclava, get your spray paints

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• primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Set anything with a ring camera on it on fire. It us the enemy, it is forfeit.

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  • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Edward Snowden may say (in reality he says to desolder and add manual switches to mics and cameras):

    FTFY

    Set anything with a camera and mic on it on fire. It is the enemy.

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    • primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s much harder to disperse and admit to using the camera in my phone than that you illicitly accessed.

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• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  if meta, google can do it, why cant amazon.

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