Submitted 9 hours ago by cm0002@piefed.world to fediverse@lemmy.world
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They’re welcome to it.
As far as I’m concerned, this is the entire benefit of lemmy/piefed/etc… They can have their space, and any other instance can choose not to federate with them so we aren’t forced to listen to them, unlike the alternative, where an algorithm forces them into everyone’s face.
Rather than telling them they don’t have the right to speak, we simply have the ability to shut our window and not listen to them.
Let them bitch at each other.
Can we build a wall around them?
and make MAGA Place pay for it?
but I’m on Lemmy.World and I’m too stupid to understand everything.
Thank you, now I love lemmy even more.
Wonder if they know about the Epstein files 🤔
them: yaaah safe from the censorship of the fediverse
me: defederates
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Beware of what? It’s no different than any other instance and capable of being subscribed to, scrolled past or blocked.
Stop advertising for them and let them have their federated echo chamber, just like the communists, socialists, leftists and others have.
it’s kinda funny though
Let them federate with Hexbear
I don’t even think there’d be that much disagreement.
“Oh, do you hate libs and love Putin too?”
Them? Is one guy
we should start a fediverse tv show called fedi-deathmatch and its just 5 ppl from maga.place and 5 ppl from hexbear.net having a debate
1 v 1 then
Why would they not just stay on Twitter, Truth Social, reddit or Facebook? Those places are tailor-made for MAGA 🤔
In the novel Snow Crash, the residents of the white-supremacist micro-state franchises visit other places because they have no non-whites to attack at home.
is that the Network State that Peter Thiel is trying to build?
They want to spread their diareah everywhere
They probably get bored in their echo chambers and eventually want to try their five or six canned lines on someone new.
I’ve noticed a significant uptick in rightist trolls on the fediverse since the devil called Charlie Kirk home. Absolutely nowhere is safe from fascist infiltration for long. Hopefully the half decent instances defederate from those cesspits en masse.
That’s because they are fucking bored and have no real personality or hobbies.
There are some original style old school websites that are niche and small that are fine.
Eg if you like miniature painting, going to a small, dedicated website forum just for that, is more likely to be genuine than anything like Lemmy or Reddit. And truly it is more decentralized.
I’ve always wondered why conservatives insist on coming to the fediverse when conventional networks are more appealing to them and their ideals nowadays. Or is that still not enough?
Ideals don’t matter to them, what matters is spreading their propaganda far and wide.
Bingo. These are the same people who will say that most political violence comes from the left while removing a study showing the opposite: a study about a statistical trend that has been well known and documented for longer than I’ve been alive.
They don’t care. They will openly lie to your face, without even trying to hide that it’s a lie while they smile and say they’re being honest. The people who gaslit the nation about project 2025 only to have cabinet members gleeposting about implementing it on social media.
Truth is irrelevant and reality is an inconvenience.
A lot if it is sowing dissent and breaking discourse as well.
Same reason why tankies don’t just move to China, or why some Canadians had Trump bumperstickers: the point is to take over and wield authority as a weapon. Of course they try to invade and pollute every space they can and muddy waters wherever possible.
When I was a conservative piece of shit, in my younger days, I had the most outlandish bumper stickers you can imagine. Probably more outlandish than you can imagine, actually, 99.9% likelihood. There were quite a few. I knew I was being an ass and I loved when it offended people, because I was miserable. Someone was paying attention to me. I was getting a reaction. I existed! Anyway, yeah, it can be as simple as “they get off on ruining your day cuz they’re miserable pieces of shit.” Speaking from experience.
Good job being less of a piece of shit and congrats on the happiness. Any advice for helping people out of there?
they want attention, which is why magat are so desperate for trump to recognize them.
Thanks for sharing. I’m glad you are feeling less miserable now.
People can change. Even if that baby thinks they can’t.
they get off on ruining your day cuz
That’s true of everyone, though. Leftists find leftists grating, rigid with their insufferable call-out tactics, fixation on niche issues, clashing priorities, infighting, ease of provocation at obvious bait. We just have a stronger capacity to endure the left than the right does.
They need an audience to perform for. When ever you see a social media “safe space” for conservatives (Voat, Truth Social, etc.) they almost always wither and die. They need people to blame for being everything wrong with the world as well as react to their terrible takes, otherwise there’s no point in shouting their outrage and anger on the internet.
That’s fine. But how do they feel about beans?
(imo)…because the AI/bot deluge is slowly but surely becoming more obvious by the day.
even bootlickers want to feel like they’re talking to real other bootlickers
They don’t want their own spaces as much as making other people’s spaces are theirs too - aka “This is why we can’t have nice things”
Free platforms like the Fediverse would actually suit conservative ideals of freedom quite well.
If they cared about ideals, that is.
Since when do conservatives follow conservative ideals of freedom?
That’s a reason why it won’t work - see Reddit’s r/Conservative which lists every post as “approved speech only” aka “flaired users only”.
thats why they also favor discord too, have thier own echo chamber, and allow adminstrative controls like with facebook, and not having something like reddit ban system hovering over thier shoulders, plus propaganda mods that keep them from speaking out of line(like with r/conservatives)
If those were the ideals, the Kimmel and Colbert firings never would’ve happened.
They go everywhere because even if a bunch of people are like “fuck off nazis” there will be a few people that are like “oh hey you have some good ideas”.
That’s why they’ve been recruiting online since the beginning of the internet. Capture whoever you can that’s sympathetic and keep bolstering numbers by any means necessary. Worked out pretty well for them
Maybe us commies and socialists need to do it the same way, work against them.
Because this place isn’t censored for their side, they’re trying to break it.
If they get defederated, they just spin up a new instance and keep spreading their hate.
or they infilitrate instances by creating an account in there and just troll.
They got to emigrate the istance users aswell. Seems like a loosing game.
Ideals? You mean diet fascism?
FOSS is for everyone. Not wanting to be dependent on big tech isn’t uniquely a leftist ideal, and it should be obvious by now that the political affiliation and community guidelines of big tech companies are entirely dependent on the current political landscape, not any moral values or held ideals, and can change at any moment.
Not wanting to be dependent on big tech isn’t uniquely a leftist ideal
Are you sure? most people working on projects against big tech tend to be very left leaning. The conservatives love using the appeal of authority to silence minorities and voices they don’t like.
Right wing creeping up to take control of these spaces doesn’t make it their ideal.
I could be wrong. Can you name some popular projects against big tech by conservatives?
Hmm, that sounds fair.
What’s the problem of those right-wing dipshits having their own instance? I’m trying to understand this perspective you all seem to have here.
Someone please elaborate the hesitancy of us accepting MAGA extremists having their own federated community?
Why would we want to talk to MAGA assholes who want to eradicate most of the userbase?
They’re allowed to make an instance, the software can’t stop them. They’re not required to be federated with.
Just like how you can say anything you want, you’re not required to have someone listen to it, or not have someone speak their mind about it back to you.
Nobody is saying that they can't, mostly what you'll get is calls for defederation.
Calling for defederation is a matter of simply not accepting content or voting from the targeted instance. Everyone has the right to spin up an instance for whatever they believe, but everyone else also has the right to not pass your content through their servers or display it to their users
This isn't to call to shut them down, this is to raise awareness so people can update block lists, instance admins to investigate/check with their users/mods on what they want to do
They can have it. We just don’t want to federate with them, which doesn’t prevent them from having their own instance all for themselves.
They’re totally allowed to, just as we’re totally allowed to defederate or block or whatever. The question is why are they here, when they have taken over all the mainstream places and don’t really need a federated niche community.
Because I don’t want to interact with them outside of very specific, and sporadic, questions. Their presence is an active detriment to me. Let them go back to truth social.
Because they are trolls whose purpose is to actively harm everybody else. They do not deserve our tolerance.
Before Trump, the “traditional” social media was likely pushing the Democrats’ agenda (like the Twitter files under the guise of more moderation. Now the tactic is being used by the Trump administration just more in the open and in more traditional media (Jimmy Kimmel). Big media is such an easy target for govt influence when it’s all ad supported.
I’d bet they see the writing on the wall that the government has too much influence in social media. So this time they don’t want to be caught with their pants down when Democrats come back into power. The other thing I feel is on the horizon is the end of the ad supported internet. I’ve said it before, be prepared to do it yourself or pay for it. I guarantee the guys behind this instance is in the do it yourself camp.
Disclaimer: I am libertarian and view both DNC and GOP as different sides of the same authoritarian coin. Right wing flavored, left wing flavored, both are disgusting when it’s authoritarianism.
Conservatives value the marketplace of ideas. The fediverse is a true embodiment of the marketplace of ideas. No wonder they are coming.
Is that really true though?
When living in the US, it seemed American conservatives seemed mostly to be oligarch shills and with very shallow and performative beliefs.
Mind you, I think there needs to be balance of sorts between left and right, competition to keep both sides honest. But this doesn’t apply to American “conservatives” who at least at the high level seemed to mostly consist of demagogues.
The “marketplace of ideas” phrase is a perfect example of the theatrical and performative nature of American conservativism.
Hey, I hope Lemmy.zip federates with them! I sometimes listen to the tankies, I don’t see why I should not read the fascists as well.
They can’t even write their own fucking acronym right. It’s MAGA, not “Maga.”
Magat please.
The stars aren’t even centered. They’re to the left. I call shenanigans
1 month later: why is our new instance filled exclusively with incels and edgelords and fuckwits?
1 year later: President Trump signs executive order requiring everyone to federate with MAGA
This is just universal monk jerking themselves off.
I bet it’s yet another joint run by the Internet Research Agency or its successors.
Stand MAGA for. Make asses great again ?
I don’t know how studied fediverse mods are on how the right infiltrated reddit moderation but I really hope you guys know. and that moderator actions are visible to eachother
I hope they meet hexbear soon
Hates fediverse, still wants to be part of it.
Good, the more people on this protocol the better. If they behave then they shouldnt be defederated. But most maga beliefs are already breaking every rule.
If I wanted to make a honeypot to get these fucks arrested this is how I’d do it.
I bet they use Windows
An instance of stochastic terrorists. Fantastic.
isn’t this promoting it?
Hey I found the OFFICIAL ANTIFA HEADQUARTERS?!?!?
I can’t find it. Oh well. 🤷♀️🤣
Artemz… feel like that name is familiar…
Fuck off with your advertisement, seriously fuck you
Cut the cancer out
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