Skavau
@Skavau@piefed.social
- Comment on Politics 22 hours ago:
Well you can make use of the Piefed tagging system to distinguish different locations or topics etc
- Comment on Politics 22 hours ago:
Isn’t this effectively suggesting to delete the community and remake as US Politics?
- Comment on The Shitpost Office — Shitposts from 9 to 5 in any and all timezones 2 days ago:
Indeed. tbh we need a “piefed federate” tool built really.
- Comment on The Shitpost Office — Shitposts from 9 to 5 in any and all timezones 2 days ago:
I also added them all to piefed.social manually. I do that a lot. I am following all the ‘discover’ communities where people advertise, so pull them into piefed.social.
- Comment on Beware, another "wonderful" conservative instance to "free us" has appeared 5 days ago:
No, that’s another user trolling on there.
- Comment on Beware, another "wonderful" conservative instance to "free us" has appeared 6 days ago:
Piefed.social has. I imagine blahaj and dbzer0 and many left-leaning instances.
- Comment on Beware, another "wonderful" conservative instance to "free us" has appeared 6 days ago:
lemmygrad
- Comment on Beware, another "wonderful" conservative instance to "free us" has appeared 6 days ago:
Well this instance has already been heavily defederated.
- Comment on Beware, another "wonderful" conservative instance to "free us" has appeared 6 days ago:
It’s an instance that says “safe from the madness and censorship of the fediverse”. The opening pitch is them being combative.
- Comment on Beware, another "wonderful" conservative instance to "free us" has appeared 6 days ago:
People don’t want to federate with MAGA-themed instances.
- Comment on Beware, another "wonderful" conservative instance to "free us" has appeared 6 days ago:
Maga.place is already defederated by a bunch of instances.
- Comment on On the relevance of upvotes in relation to quality and discussion 6 days ago:
Pushing people aware from the Fediverse over crippling posting standards does nothing whatsoever for the wider negative impacts of social media.
- Comment on On the relevance of upvotes in relation to quality and discussion 6 days ago:
I mean to be fair, a user could simply make accounts across the hundreds of tiny forgotten fediverse servers that exist and upvote and downvote from there, skewing results.
- Comment on On the relevance of upvotes in relation to quality and discussion 6 days ago:
Well, sure, that would stop that - but I don’t see what benefit this gives the fediverse really. You would actually be giving small privately hosted instances enormous voting power across the fediverse, so grants opportunity for manipulation.
- Comment on On the relevance of upvotes in relation to quality and discussion 6 days ago:
That means that most /all/ content on every single fediverse instance will be hugely biased in favour of local content.
- Comment on On the relevance of upvotes in relation to quality and discussion 6 days ago:
If viable either financially or logistically, this is just overly excessive and pushes people away from the Fediverse.
- Comment on On the relevance of upvotes in relation to quality and discussion 6 days ago:
- no commenting at all without including a verifiable quote from the linked article
How is this feasible?
- Comment on On the relevance of upvotes in relation to quality and discussion 6 days ago:
Something to be considered down-the-line when Piefed is the dominant partner in the Fediverse. Otherwise all this has the impact of is suppressing Piefed posts on Piefed.
- Comment on The Wikipedia page for the fediverse describes a den of iniquity 1 week ago:
“Legal reform has also been proposed, most notably around Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, as well as proposed legal requirements for instance operators to engage in good-faith moderation of instance connections.”
The source for this is a a paper written in January 2024 by someone called Nikhil Mahadeva.
Lets be clearl, any Section 230 discussion will never mention the Fediverse. That implies anyone who wants to erode even knows what the Fediverse is.
- Submitted 1 week ago to fediverse@lemmy.world | 4 comments
- Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 1 week ago:
Well that would mean a lot of attention seeking troll posts could trend.
- Comment on Mods react as Reddit kicks some of them out again: “This will break the site” 1 week ago:
True, but Reddit let this problem fester for a long time.
What's interesting to me here regarding this, is Reddits current preparation timescale. This isn't going to be enforced until March 31st, 2026. This tells me that Reddit would have been unprepared for a complete mass-walkout of community moderators during the 2023 Reddit API strikes. A large chunk of Reddit during that period was genuinely inaccessible. But after a few token gestures and a few examples made of some especially rebellious mod-teams, most of the striking moderators returned.
A huge opportunity was missed by people running major communities to functionally degrade Reddit in at least the medium-term as a website. You can't just hastily promote random people to replace moderators Reddit is either forced to remove or who leave voluntarily. The average person is likely too lazy, too arbitrary and too corrupt to effectively oversee communities of notable sizes.
- Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 1 week ago:
Well fair enough, although I do think (and I know this isn't the same here specifically) that it isn't shitty to ban a metal-hater from a metal music community for downvoting everything.
- Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 1 week ago:
What would "banning the voting agent" look like exactly if it didn't impact the account that triggered the voting agent? Just muted their downvoting? I assume this wouldn't federate out, so wouldn't impact the negative impact of potentially unwelcome and malicious downvoting from that account across the fediverse.
- Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 1 week ago:
I don't recall piefed showing you any voter details before Rimu changed it. I recall it being completely anonymous, and only deweighting downvoters if they did X downvotes in a row (meaning their downvote wouldn't count locally). Then he changed it, and added non-federated voting.
But supposing we have a sort of proxy voting system, whereby a downvote by you is identified under a proxy name - if you got banned by a community moderator for voting like that, wouldn't they instantly see who you were by checking the community ban list?
- Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 1 week ago:
So you don't oppose community mods responding like that?
- Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 1 week ago:
Having a single voting agent per user doesn't change that though. If you've got downvote trolls you can just ban the voting agent just like you could otherwise ban the sockpuppet.
Sorry, so you mean obfuscating identities of voters but they could still be seen as separate 'agents'? So in that way a community owner could ban downvoters, they just wouldn't know who got banned?
- Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 1 week ago:
I've seen a lot of discussion on this scattered around. I don't sense popular support across the fediverse for going to anonymous voting.
The frustrating thing is that the problems were entirely imagined. Having a voting agent is literally no different from me having a voting alt, except it's only one instead of unlimited. I could write a browser plugin which restores the functionality that could do far more damage, so if a single voting agent is truly a game breaking issue, then the alleged problems are far more fundamental. But they aren't. There was never any actual problem and this whole thing was just shitty forum politics.
Downvote noise from random accounts isn't a problem for 90% of communities most of the time - either they don't have anyone like that, or they're simply too big for them to have any impact. I sense the most obvious problem is when you're growing a community and a handful of downvoters latch on, for want of a better word and continually downvote posts - as I did on my community. Until I removed them.
What plugin could you do more damage with?
- Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 1 week ago:
Yes, but downvoting something because you don't like the community is going to potentially lead to getting banned if the mods notice you doing it on there.
- Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 1 week ago:
Okay, well that might be a good suggestion for /active/.
But in any case you already have your own tools for what you want.