Skavau
@Skavau@piefed.social
- Comment on r/Silksong joins lemmy! (And a new lemmy instance) 3 days ago:
I’m pushing for major Piefed instances to be able to network together, so when one instance addsor federates a new community - it will automatically network to other piefed instances.
That admin instance function would of course, have to remain optional though - as small personal instances would find that welcome - but it would automate a lot of this.
- Comment on I created a dedicated Show & Tell community for showing off personal projects 1 week ago:
!show_and_tell@programming.dev
- Comment on Ideas for a better Lemmy experience 1 week ago:
It obviously wouldn’t stop all of them, but it would stop some. Some people aren’t that invested.
However, it would also stop a lot of new users.
- Comment on Ideas for a better Lemmy experience 1 week ago:
Yes, but it would tank the user retention rate.
- Comment on Ideas for a better Lemmy experience 1 week ago:
auto closing/suspending stale communities
Define “stale” commmunities.
wait 24h before commenting, wait 7 days before posting.
This would not help interacting levels at all.
- Comment on Would a fediverse alternative of Discord be possible? 1 week ago:
No-one wants to use these things at scale and the interconnectiveness between different instances on these things are just non-existent.
- Comment on Would a fediverse alternative of Discord be possible? 1 week ago:
How did you find them? How many people are in them? There’s no hub for community discovery for matrix-based communities, to my knowledge.
As I said in another comment: It seems to me a hypothetical federated Discord client needs to adopt the same model as the fediverse with community lookup functions where the discord-like instances would federate with other discord instances and be able to browse rooms, in something akin to the Discord Discovery tool.
- Comment on Would a fediverse alternative of Discord be possible? 1 week ago:
Its uses are few and far between. It seems to me a hypothetical federated Discord client needs to adopt the same model as the fediverse with community lookup functions where disord instances would federate with other discord instances and be able to browse rooms, in something akin to the Discord Discovery tool.
Matrix just doesn’t offer that at all.
- Comment on Would a fediverse alternative of Discord be possible? 1 week ago:
Right, but it almost doesn’t matter because no-one is actually using matrix in the same way they might use Discord. It just isn’t being used socially for hobbies and interests and a part of that is it’s design and bugs and tedium getting set up.
- Comment on Would a fediverse alternative of Discord be possible? 1 week ago:
Its buggy, it just doesn’t really look like Discord. It is a chore for new users to use. There’s no useful community discovery.
- Comment on Would a fediverse alternative of Discord be possible? 1 week ago:
The Stoat development cycle is really, really slow. This is why it’s just fallen away.
- Comment on Would a fediverse alternative of Discord be possible? 1 week ago:
Well yes, that’s the problem. Matrix is just used for tech/troubleshoot issues and it’s buggy as hell.
It isn’t a social experience like discord. It is a gap in the fediverse
- Comment on Would a fediverse alternative of Discord be possible? 1 week ago:
Matrix just isn’t up to it. It doesn’t function the same really. It doesn’t feel the same.
- Comment on FYI: Reddit trademarked some community names (Digg link) 1 week ago:
The key words here are “allowed to be acknowledged as existing”. Not acknowledging a community’s existence means not federating it. .world does that with db0’s piracy community because of EU laws, and it’s basically an instance-imposed community ban. Pyfed has/had a hard-coded denylist of community names in the source code that stopped them from being federated, and the result was none of the instances running unmodified Piefed were able to access them.
No, that’s just relevant to the mass community lookup tool. Piracy communities can still be federated individually on the Piefedverse (so to speak), and I believe that Rimu has removed that term from that.
- Comment on Do we need more users ? 1 week ago:
I’m not trying to get you to do so. Just noting that it isn’t inherently more “memey” than lemmy.
- Comment on Do we need more users ? 1 week ago:
This makes no sense. How you interpret the design doesn’t come into it. You know piefed.social (the largest instance) shows the same communities as lemmy.world, right?
You are just flatout wrong. You might be seeing it via card mode rather than compact mode.
- Comment on Do we need more users ? 1 week ago:
Without trying to shill it to you, it has the same content you would see on lemmy.world. It’s no more memey than lemmy.world.
- Comment on Do we need more users ? 2 weeks ago:
I mean the intent here is for moderating capacity and tools to increase with user increases. Reddit grew but grew before its own moderator capacity allowed for it. Now I would argue its overall activity levels are inflated by AI, trolls and spammers. I’m on Piefed and in terms of the discussion about growth, I think about new instance admin tools can mitigate and prevent bad behaviour, trolling, AI and spamming from (usually) new accounts that otherwise would cement themselves on as regular spammers and trolls.
It’s one thing to grow, but you need to grow the ability to deal with the problems that can derive from that.
- Comment on Do we need more users ? 2 weeks ago:
Yes.
Do we want Reddit amounts of users? No.
But there’s a lot of growth between here and there.
- Comment on we need more users 2 weeks ago:
Well, better late than never. Piefed can’t solve the limitations that Lemmy had.
- Comment on we need more users 2 weeks ago:
People living in Russia or China might care.
I mean, okay, but they likely use VPNs to start with. There’s already heavily oppressive laws there. The point is Russia and China have no power to threaten Fediverse owners here.
UK might be much more difficult, btw. They now ban all porn without identity checks. So if you host a lemmy/piefed instance that’s accessible in the UK you will need to delete all adult content that makes it to your instance, if you don’t want to violate UK law.
I am from the UK. And lemmy.zip has geoblocked the UK because of this (the owner is from the UK). But no other instances has done anything so far.
Cloning communities isn’t quite that easy. Were you present when feddit.de went down? Their communities didn’t vanish. The replications are still up on all other instances, and you can still post there. There’s no indication to a casual user that the instance hosting the communities is down and thus federation doesn’t work. To the users it just looks like participation dropped like a rock with no obvious reason.
Keep in mind that Piefed actually has community migration now. There are moves being made here.
- Comment on we need more users 2 weeks ago:
Piefed has a community migration tool.
- Comment on we need more users 2 weeks ago:
If you move to piefed.zip, you have more control over your feed via keyword filters.
- Comment on we need more users 2 weeks ago:
There’s also slow growth vs. extreme growth. I do want Lemmy/Piefed to grow but I don’t think its ideal or realistic to expect or project it ever getting to Reddit size.
- Comment on we need more users 2 weeks ago:
I think he is filtering by active which keeps posts still receiving lots of comments very high.
- Comment on we need more users 2 weeks ago:
Are you filtering by “active”?
- Comment on we need more users 2 weeks ago:
Depends… Imagine it also contains some of the most relevant communities and defederating would mean you lose users. That’s not such an easy decision any more. Also, at that point hosting would likely be so expensive that for-profit instances would emerge, and for those defederating an important community wouldn’t be such an easy choice either.
I don’t think that would save it, to be honest.
People would just clone the communities on other instances and rebuild.
I suspect eventually lemmy/piefed federation will not be automatic, but subject to approval.
But it’s not only CSAM. For example, there’s illegal speech in quite a few parts of the world. In Germany, for example, a lot of nazi-related stuff is illegal. In russia or china some regime-critical speech is illegal. I wouldn’t be too surprised if the US also joins this club sometime in the near future.
No-one cares what Russia or China thinks here. Germany? I mean, sure, but this is also a complication for any regulatory bodies trying to police social media sites. As “Lemmy” or “Piefed”, as you know, are not singular entities.
Sorry if that came across. I said lemm.ee was shutdown because of the scaling issue. I could have been more clear with that I meant the moderation scaling issues.
Yeah, in part because they had a “no defederation” policy which came to bite them back.
- Comment on we need more users 2 weeks ago:
I disagree if the defederated instances are maladaptive and export bad behaviour.
In addition, I don’t think lemmy.world or lemmy.ml have been defederated by anyone notable. The only example of lemmy.world being defederated, that I know, is beehaw.org. And I believe that Beehaw.org isn’t interested in growth.
The fediverse is not a single amorphous bloc with the same overall goals of growth.
- Comment on we need more users 2 weeks ago:
But if it doesn’t, then other instances removing the content on their side doesn’t federate. So you can either trust every instance that you federate with with your legal security, or you will have to moderate everything yourself as well, just in case someone missed something.
Sure, you’re right there - but an instance that kept having problems with removing CSAM would find itself defederated.
This would be extremely important, but I don’t know if such a low level conceptual change can still be performed with a reasonable amount of work. Remember, for such a change you need to get every instance on board. That would be difficult now, and only more difficult later.
Well it would be built in from Lemmy or Piefed. The devs would have to spearhead it. But were the load ever to get to that point, I suspect that would be the obvious move.
No, it was specifically because of the moderation issue: https://lemmy.ca/post/45390962
Yes, so not financial. You seemed to be implying it was financial.
- Comment on we need more users 2 weeks ago:
Wait, I’m lost. You’re saying that most of the fediverse federating with each other has been detrimental?