It’s stupider than I thought reading the headline. That car started driving down the fing tracks
Tesla In 'Self-Drive Mode' Hit By Train After Turning Onto Train Tracks
Submitted 9 months ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.jalopnik.com/1887837/tesla-in-self-driving-mode-hit-by-train/
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carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
you_are_it@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
Every thing seems to turn to shit
Etterra@discuss.online 9 months ago
To be fair it is a Tesla. It started out as shit.
you_are_it@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
Yup, but the control mechanisms are going to shit, because it sounds like they are going to maybe do a half asses rollout :)
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It started out promising, then was consigned to be shit when Elon swore off LIDAR. If he kept his shitty little hands away from management and let the engineers do their thing, it could’ve been great.
mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
How could the left do this /s
dollfacemenace@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Next up: “Train is a communistic tool to restrict vehicular freedom. Banish trains! More highways!”
stephen01king@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
This is unironocally something I’ve heard people argue about public transport in general, that its a tool to control people’s movement.
daellat@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Just one more lane, bro!
el_bhm@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Train often frequented by Hamas supporters canceled a Tesla.
RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Tesla’s new automatic suicide feature
Akasazh@feddit.nl 9 months ago
Full Self Dissolution
hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
I think that’s called “murder”
Eww@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Tesla’s have a problem with the lefts.
atlien51@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Elongated Musketon: UM THAT WAS JUST 1 FAULTY MODEL STOP CHERRY PICKING GUYS JUST BUY IT!!!1
lsibilla@lemm.ee 9 months ago
For as much as I’d like to see Tesla stock crash these days, and without judging on the whole autonomous car topic, this IS cherrypicking.
Human drivers aren’t exactly flawless either, but we won’t ban human driven cars because some acts recklessly or other had a seizure while driving.
If statistically self driving cars are safer, I’d rather have them and reduce the risk of coming across another reckless driver.
leftytighty@slrpnk.net 9 months ago
yes we should be doing more to reduce driving, it’s relatively unsafe and I’m sick of our lived environments being designed for cars and not people.
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 9 months ago
Clearly the train didn’t yield properly, time to ban trains.
hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
I mean, he did specifically come up with his idiotic “Hyperloop” concept to kill California’s high speed rail project
DempstersBox@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Where’s the video?
cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
I am all in on testing these devices and improving waay before they recommend fully giving into AI
J52@lemmy.nz 9 months ago
Hope no one was hurt, regardless whether they’re stupid, distracted or whatever! If we can’t build fail-saves into cars, what are our chances for real AI?
danhab99@programming.dev 9 months ago
Okay I don’t want to directly disagree with you I just want to add a thought experiment:
If it is a fundamental truth of the universe, a human can literally not program a computer to be smarter than a human (because of some Neil deGrasse Tyson-esq interpretation of entropy), then no matter what AI’s will crash cars as often as real people.
And the question of who is responsible for the AI’s actions will always be the person because people can take responsibility and AI’s are just machine-tools. This basically means that there is a ceiling to how autonomous self-driving cars will ever be (because someone will have to sit at the controls and be ready to take over) and I think that is a good thing.
Honestly I’m in this camp that computers can never truly be “smarter” than a person in all respects. Maybe you can max out an ai’s self-driving stats but then you’ll have no points left over for morality, or you can balance the two out and it might just get into less morally challenging accidents more often ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. There are lots of ways to look at this
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
a human can literally not program a computer to be smarter than a human
I’d add that a computer vision system can’t integrate new information as quickly as a human, especially when limited to vision-only sensing - which Tesla is strangely obsessed with when the cost of these sensors is dropping and their utility has been proven by waymo’s excellent record.
All in all, I see no reason to attempt to replace humans when we have billions. This is doubly so for ‘artistic’ ai purposes - we have billions of people, let artists create the art.
show me an AI system that can clean my kitchen, or do my laundry. that’d be WORTH it.
kieron115@startrek.website 9 months ago
You all don’t seem to understand, this is just the cost of progress!
Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 9 months ago
[deleted]jj4211@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The thing that strikes me about both this story and the thing you posted is that the people in the Tesla seem to be like “this is fine” as the car does some pretty terrible stuff.
In that one, Tesla failing to honor a forced left turn instead opting to go straight into oncoming lanes and waggle about causing things to honk at them, the human just sits there without trying to intervene. Meanwhile they describe it as “navigation issue/hesitation” which really understates what happened there.
The train one didn’t come with video, but I can’t imagine just letting my car turn itself onto tracks and going 40 feet without thinking.
My Ford even thinks about going too close to another lane and I’m intervening even if it was really going to be no big deal. I can’t imagine this level of “oh well”.
Tesla drivers/riders are really nuts…
nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 9 months ago
@Davriellelouna I am sure it was all monitored in real time and a revised algorithm will be included in a future update.6nk06@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
And maybe an update to the firmware on those expensive Logitech webcams powering the AI.
altphoto@lemmy.today 9 months ago
Honey, are those train tracks? … Yes looks like we’ll turn left on to the tracks for 1/2 a mile. Its a detour.
shaggyb@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Driver failed to control their car and avoid a collision.
FTFY.
I’m sure the car did actually take the action. But there are TONS of unavoidable warnings and reminders to the driver to supervise and take control when FSD goes wrong.
Which you can do by such super-technical means as “hitting the brake” or “steering the other way” or “flipping the right stalk up”. Rocket science, I know.
Driver’s fault. Bad technology, yes. Worse driver.
faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 9 months ago
I just don’t know how they’re getting away with calling it ‘full self driving’ if it’s not fully self driving.
shaggyb@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I didn’t keep track of how that lawsuit turned out.
That said, it is labeled “Full Self-Driving (Supervised)” on everything in the car.
Supervised as in you have to be ready to stop this kind of thing. That’s what the supervision is.
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’d have bailed out and waited for the insurance check. Then got a different car.
shaggyb@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I wouldn’t have had time between pumping iron and getting head, myself.
BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 9 months ago
New food chain just dropped
EtherWhack@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Meanwhile my sister’s fiancee drank the whole pitcher and is back working there totally believing Elon is some super genius and that the cars are capable of full self-driving. (I really have to bite my tongue when listening to him)
My camry can self-drive too, same outcome. (just off a cliff, rather than in front of a train)
merdaverse@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Damn. I hope the train is ok
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
It simply saw a superior technology and decided to attack.
TeddE@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That … tracks
pyre@lemmy.world 9 months ago
smeenz@lemmy.nz 9 months ago
Full stream ahead with the train puns
D_C@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Whoa, that typo nearly knocked this discussion off the rails…
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 months ago
How the fuck do you let any level 2 system go 40 to 50 fucking feet down the railroad tracks.
We’re they asleep?
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 9 months ago
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 months ago
LOL wasn’t expecting that.
Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
I was gonna say it’s not so much the fact that the car was hit by a train, but that it turned on to the tracks …but 40 or 50 feet?
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Cop: WTF happened here?
Driver: It drove itself onto the tracks
Cop: Okay, but what about the other 49 feet of the 50 feet it’s on the tracks?
Driver: …
MBech@feddit.dk 9 months ago
I’m not sure I’d be able to sleep through driving on the railroad tracks. I’m going to guess this person was simply incredibly fucking stupid, and thought the car would figure it out, instead of doing the bare fucking minimum of driving their goddamn 2 ton heavy death machine themself.
6nk06@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I’m going to guess this person was simply incredibly fucking stupid
Well, the guy owned a Tesla, it was pretty obvious.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 months ago
LOL right? Like deciding to see what the car will do ON RAILWAY TRACKS is absolutely fucking bonkers.
sundray@lemmus.org 9 months ago
Car drove itself on to the tracks, gets hit by a train. This is some Maximum Overdrive shit.
sturmblast@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Tesla’s are death traps.
PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Deregulation, ain’t it great.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I’ll just fork it; we can do better than this.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
What a cool and futuristic car. It’s all computer!
I’m still waiting for Elon’s car to drive onto train tracks.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You could not pay me to drive a Tesla.
jsomae@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Self-driving not being reliable yet is one of the biggest disappointments of the last decade.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
What did we even do all those ReCAPTCHAs for
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
At this point, if anybody buys one of these vehicles from Tesla, they absolutely deserve what they get. It is absurd.
billwashere@lemmy.world 9 months ago
And who is going to willingly get into a Tesla Taxi?!?!
Empricorn@feddit.nl 9 months ago
I won’t get in one because I’m not giving a single dollar of business to Musk. He can go jump up his own asshole.
billwashere@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Also a very valid point.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You still don’t have to get in for one to hit you. I ride a motorcycle and I’m always sketched out when there’s a Tesla behind me
billwashere@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Very true.
Rooskie91@discuss.online 9 months ago
How symbolic
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
He wants to make us a multi transport mode species.