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Valve CEO Gabe Newell’s Neuralink competitor is expecting its first brain chip this year

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Submitted ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨simple@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.theverge.com/news/673938/gabe-newell-valve-founder-brain-computer-interface-first-chip-starfish

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  • tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not advocating for our against but 2 thoughts here:

    1: Gabe isn’t Musk. Yes money etc but don’t immediately jump there without other malfeasance please. Caution absolutely but don’t ascribe one rich assholes shit to another.

    2: He probably has hard data on accessibility… Possibly more than nearly anyone else. There’s a HUGE portion of the population that can’t use “traditional” controllers or other input devices. And that’s not even going into the medical realm.

    Could game Gabe be starting his villain phase? Sure! But until more negative details come out I’m just hoping this is investments he’d use toward a new steam controller.

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    • faythofdragons@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, if we were putting billionaires against the wall, GabeN would probably be near the end of the line.

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      • mcv@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There was a time the same was true for Elon Musk, before he suddenly decided to jump the queue. I really hope Gabe isn’t going down that path.

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      • Zealousideal_Fox_900@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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    • LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      let’s not circlejerk and have a soft spot for a billionaire just because you like video games. why give gaben the benefit of the doubt just because you think steam is a good product? if they’re a billionaire doing this, we can assume this is a money making venture.

      if you’re a billionaire, you’re already way into your villain phase. he’s not musk, but he’s one of them. you don’t make a billion dollars. you take a billion dollars.

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      • tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        So, you are reading things I didn’t write. I’m not defending him about steam games etc… The only good will here about any of it is the work toward better Linux life.

        I agree billionaires shouldn’t exist.

        I don’t like steam.

        I don’t really do much gaming… And it’s worth stuff from GOG.

        Chill out. I’m not the fanboi you are looking for.

        I’m only saying perhaps he sees $$$ in a venture that is rife with much worse people doing far worse to vulnerable people.

        On the off chance better access comes about from rich assholes eating each other, I’m game to at least watch.

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      • aceshigh@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Billionaires either inherit their money or get it by being an asshole. Being nice doesn’t make people billionaires.

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    • nickhammes@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You don’t get to be a billionaire without some malfeasance.

      And even if you don’t assume actively malicious intent like you should with Musk, there’s a lot of potential danger with technology like this, and if you don’t stand a lot to gain, and have reasonable controls against things going wrong, it’s probably not a good idea to be an early adopter. It’s just like a pacemaker, there are a narrow segment of people who should want to test a new model/concept for them.

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      • tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Absolutely agree at every part.

        My desire would be strong regulation via a real agency (not current US), or alternatively ONLY work via non-intrusive means on the scalp.

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  • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What are the chances this won’t be proprietary?

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  • DicJacobus@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Valve bros dont need to worry about what happens in life after gaben, because I think gaben is going to ascend to cyberspace before the end.

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    • Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Portal 2 was a road map

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      • wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s… Not a very promising roadmap…

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    • tehn00bi@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Him and Kurzweil just hanging out on the same subnet.

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  • moseschrute@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Suddenly this makes way more sense

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    • FourWaveforms@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can hear this picture

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  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s wild how Lemmy gamers and others treat Steam as if it’s a noble corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire so he can’t possibly be bad. The fact that he’s a billionaire is proof that he underpaid and stole from everyone below him. There are no good billionaires, and Gabe is not your friend

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes but to be fair it wouldn’t be hard to find someone that felt that they were more exploited by Valve then by the likes of EA or Epic

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    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The fact that you wrote this with just vibes makes me love Gabe that much more. I’m finding that the best past in life is to reject whatever the fuck you all are selling since you’re all so out of touch with reality.

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      • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s wild how many servile, billionaire lovers there are here today. It’s kinda pathetic

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    • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The fact that he is a billionaire does not mean that lol. He’s a billionaire because his company gets a cut of every sale of games on his platform, and his platform is the industry standard/default platform for digital distribution. He could be paying his employees a million a year to be a janitor and he’d still be a billionaire, no “stealing” and not one being underpaid.

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      • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Stop defending billionaires, they don’t care about you

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    • Jhex@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      it’s almost as if there may be room for something in between love and hate, black and white, good and evil

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      • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        OMG GET OUT OF HERE

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      • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is a killer a good person? Isn’t there a line to cross before you become bad? If you reached billionaire status you left the moral line far behind

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    • Demdaru@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean, it’s hard to hate on someone who pays his people well, gives fun benefits, cultivates chill working culture and is overall simply a chill guy and whose big, fat marketshare comes from actually working for the customer.

      Yeah. He could probably pay better or give more of his wealth into the society. Hell, prolly even should. But the fact is that among anyone else with that title, Gabe looks like a goddamn saint.

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      • Rose@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        cultivates chill working culture

        Seriously?

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      • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        He’s anti union, valve employees aren’t allowed to unionize. Also seems cool with making money off all the games made by studios who are also underpaying and over working employees

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      • nomy@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        He could direct his company to stop targeting kids with addictive gambling mechanics and looking the other way regarding grey-market resellers.

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    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But yet he mighz be one of the beat billionaires in the pool of filth.

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      • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Nicest guy in prison

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  • isekaihero@ani.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We could build Sword Art Online, but I think we all know that this technology will be used to beam ads directly into your head 24/7. You won’t be able to sleep because of the penis enhancement ads.

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    • Demdaru@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nah, it’s GabeN.

      Half Life: Alyx 2 will be coming straight into your brain.

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      • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        it’s Gaben

        It’s a new technology. The product will be bigger than Gabe or Valve and won’t take long to become duplicated in function and form, then become commonplace.

        Gabe is starting a fire, it may spread and do things against his or anyone’s goodwill.

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    • Bosht@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m hoping if it’s headed by Gabe’s efforts it will be relatively clean. Guess only time will tell.

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  • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That will be awesome for when my body dies, but I still want to be a brain in a jar playing MechWarrior.

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  • rocky1138@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Billionaires should not exist

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    • throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Step 1: Tax all wealth above 999 Million at 100% taxrate
      Step 2: Congrats, no more billionaires! 🎆🎇🎉🎊

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      • mcv@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s worth remembering that there was a time when the highest US tax bracket was taxed at 90%, and that didn’t stop the US’s longest period of sustained economic growth.

        Ridiculously high tax rates for ridiculously high incomes have been done before and are entirely feasible.

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      • pupbiru@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        tax all wealth above the nth percentile of the populations wealth

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      • Zealousideal_Fox_900@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Careful now you are scaring tankies because they can’t go long without their delusions of getting to massacre everyone who disagrees with them.

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  • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I wish I could close or move windows around with my brain. It would be so nice.

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  • CallateCoyote@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m only doing the brain chip thing if it can fully transplant me to a Matrix level of simulated reality and get me out of this current hellhole permanently.

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  • dan1101@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wow Valve was on a great series of wins, this is a rare loss for them. Who wants this? Best case people will be sitting in meetings playing Half Life 3 in their brains. I don’t really want that.

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    • priapus@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re looking at this with a very closed mind. This isnt (currently) being designed for people to just do normal computer stuff but in their brain. This technology has huge potential for improving prosthetics and treating neurological disorders.

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    • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I want shit like this. I want to be a cyborg. I do not want them to kill hundreds of apes for it though.

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      • disgrunty@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Reminder: billionaires are apes… (For legal reasons, this is a joke)

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    • Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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      • MangioneDontMiss@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        we’re a long fucking way from helping any of those people with this stuff. this is for all the multimillionaires out there.

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    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If it gets me closer to Half-Life 3, then pipe that shit into my brains

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  • SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    "As part of your onboarding process, we’re just going to implant your Company ID. That way, for your safety, we’ll always know where you are. If you hear a buzzing sound, that means return to the office immediately. Reduced work speed will produce a mild reminder shock.

    “Welcome to the Corporation.”

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    • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Reminder shock is amazing LMAO

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    • LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe they could use the implanted chip to wall off your non-work side when you enter your office so you’re not distracted and fully focused on your job.

      Then when you leave your work side gets blocked off so you can leave work at work. Automatic work/life balance.

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      • nomy@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not sure if it was intentional but you just summarized the show Severance.

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  • pipe01@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They should make a big facility to test the implants

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    • Crabhands@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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      • DasSkelett@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yperating System?

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’d need people to solve puzzles to really put the implant through its paces. Something involving blocks should be sufficiently simple to play around with while having lots of variation.

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “has long toyed with the idea that your brain should be more connected to your PC”

    seems like billionaires’ wet dream to be honest

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    • coolmojo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But imagine how easy it would be to track you serve you more personalised ads.

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      • lucelu2@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We have all been “convinced” to carry tracking devices with us everywhere we go. Way cheaper than a brain implant.

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  • qaz@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Props to him for trying it himself instead of having someone else do it and take all the risk

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    • underline960@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Valve CEO Gabe Newell pretends to get a hole drilled into his head for a brain-computer interface.

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  • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    "Alright, the implantation surgery was a success, now all we have to do is fire up the remote activation. Throwing the switch in three… two…

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I like that vision of future (implants are cool, neural interfaces can be useful), but I’d also like our world to stop and think a bit at every stage.

    Solve the global network (note how I’m not saying “global computer network”, because I don’t think so, ideally we’d still have global analog commutated channel network as the base level), web of hypertext documents, universal applications and personal computing problems sufficiently well first. Then go to brain implants.

    It’s like combat drones, using them with optical cables for communication is better than with radio, turns out. That’s the current way.

    Would be good if for computing we’d figure out ways better than war to remove delusions.

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  • Zirconium@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So this is how we’re gonna get half life 3 huh

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  • Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is this what were getting instead of half life 3?

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    • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Half life: Alyx required VR.

      Half life 3 requires neural integration.

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      • tal@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I can see and feel the headcrab like it’s actually there.

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    • Sabata11792@ani.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      HL3 brain dance confirmed.

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  • Goretantath@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As long as theres no wifi and its to solve medical issues, why not? Better than trusting a nazi.

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    • Rose@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Valve enabling Nazis on Steam is about as good as being a Nazi. If this is the first time you’re hearing about the problem, search for “steam nazi” via your favorite search engine and you’ll get some pretty good results among the first.

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    • Aggravationstation@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Digital onboard data processing and spike detection allows the device to operate via low-bandwidth wireless interfaces.

      It also receives power wirelessly so probably going to be the only option.

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    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      not “no wifi”. It’s “no any kind of wireless connections” and even then I’ll say no.

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    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      not “no wifi”. It’s “no any kind of wireless connections” and even then I’ll say no.

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    • limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “The non WiFi versions cost more and are not supported by most insurance.”

      • from the future
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  • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    When Gabe or Musk are the first people to get the implant, I’ll consider it… 10 to 15 years later.

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  • doodledup@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    TIL Valve is into brain chips.

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  • illi@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How the hell is this not the Onion?

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  • Rakonat@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Steam controller flash backs Pass

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  • OmegaLemmy@discuss.online ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What?

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  • Bonesince1997@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That picture 😂

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  • papercut@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    nice thumbnail

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  • muhyb@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Will we also get a control valve back on our heads?

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