Submitted 1 year ago by eirenicon@lemmy.sdf.org to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.news-cafe.eu/?go=news&n=13527
Anonymous: Trump is making America weaker and we’ll exploit it. The international hacker community is preparing to strike against U.S. infrastructure and calls for public awareness against incoming fascism
Anytime I see something about “Anonymous” I just assume it’s some kind of fed psyop until proven otherwise.
So you’ll go to your grave believing it because all the proof in the world will just be fake news
In this case? Yeah, probably. If there was proof of their identity they would no longer be anonymous, would they?
It’s a much more reasonable assumption than how your lot assumes anyone who disagrees with you for any reason is a Russian bot, and can’t be convinced by any amount of proof otherwise.
I will believe it when I see it this is likely just talk.
Anonymous, if you are going to do it, PLEASE make sure to leave the innocent people alone and go after the rich assholes that are doing this.
Other than that, here’s my axe, go wild
No one is innocent here.
Go vandalize Tom Tillis’ website. That’ll be your first test.
Here is my 4 laptops, loaded up loic, give me ip, we roll
slow loris was a lot better that loic… i heard…
Aren’t they kind of notorious for empty promises?
The actual anonymous group gets things done.
How easy is it to say Anonymous said this or that? Very.
I expect this highly political, left leaning anonymous isn’t real. It’s such BS…
Agreed.
Its more of a chaos entity. Because anyone can be a part of it with literally no steps other than saying “I am Anonymous”, anyone can say or do anything. As a result, one person or group may claim Anonymous while doing a legitimate hack, while another person who is just a script kiddie won’t ever actually do anything and you get this hot and cold, will they won’t they effect as a result.
Sounds like ISIS. Lots of people claiming to be members.
Getting attention is a big part of it
Just brush the Funyun crumbs off of your shirt before starting.
Hacker fashion tip: while wearing your guy fox mask, match it with a Luigi hat.
I’m all for attacking infra - we need to make this shit more resilient and we need to transition to memory-safe langs like Rust. This will hopefully accelerate it. Also, I lol at people saying Trump/Elon/Doge will destroy the US when in reality - these kinds of people who wanna attack it probably have way better chances to do so.
Memory safety is just a small part of infrastructure resilience. Rust doesn’t protect you from phishing attacks. Rust doesn’t protect you from weak passwords. Rust doesn’t protect you from network misconfiguration. (For that matter, Rust doesn’t protect you from some group of twenty-year old assholes installing their own servers inside your network, like you say.) Protecting your estate is not just about a programming language.
“Infrastructure”, to me, suggests power, water, oil and food, more than some random website. For US infra, I’m thinking a lot of Allen-Bradley programmable logic controllers, but probably a lot of Siemens and Mitsubishi stuff as well - things like these: rockwellautomation.com/…/programmable-controllers….
Historically, the controllers for industrial infrastructure (from a single pumping station to critical electrical distribution) have been on their own separate networks, and so things like secure passwords and infrastructure updates haven’t been a priority. Some of these things have been running untouched for decades; thousands of people will have used the (often shared) credentials, which are very rarely updated or changed. The recent change is to demand more visibility and interaction; every SCADA (the main control computer used for interactive plant control) that you bring onto the public internet so that you can see what it’s up to in a central hub, the more opportunity you have to mess up the network security and allow undesirables in.
PLCs tend to be coded up in “ladder logic” and compiled to device-specific assembly language. It isn’t a programming environment where C has made any inroads over the decades; I very much doubt there’s a Rust compiler for some random microcontroller, and “supported by manufacturer” is critical for these industries.
All of this is true, but we will eventually have to migrate to Rust. Will probably take decades tho. Rust is absolutely not a silver bullet, but will help in certain cases.
Take my upvote!!!
My final semester in American Sign Language was “Sex, Drugs, and Profanity,” and most of the signs are just exactly what you’d guess. Plus, facial expressions are a big part of the grammar of the language. I don’t recognize this, but assuming it’s from a comedy - it’s probably also not far off from accurate.
It’s from the 1982 film Airplane 2: the Sequel. Nowhere near as funny as the original, but still very funny.
yeah ddos a website with your low orbit ion canons. that’ll teach them for sure. q0wned. thank you
This is kinda what trump wants. If the government cant handle “online stuff” they, can pitch privatization. It hurts more if megacorps get hacked up. Though at this point I wou’d laugh if a bunch of internet nerds got the nuclear codes or locked up a bunch of satellites
If the government cant handle “online stuff” they can pitch privatization.
It kind of already is privatized. Most of the government’s cyber security efforts are handled by defense contractors.
CISA actually monitored Internet traffic and would contact government entities (local, schools, universities, etc) when they were being attacked. I went to a talk once where they said they usually had response times in minutes, and it would take longer to figure out who they needed to alert and convince them that it was real. Now that CISA is gutted I would expect more and worse breaches in the future.
Imagine if one nuclear head was pointed to every megacorp headquarters in the US.
Ceo residences would do better. Force them all to live in the office hellscape they created.
Don’t point at the HQs, point at their mansions / golf courses / private islands
Can they do something useful like destroy the debt infrastructure and delete all student loans and medical bills?
You’ve been watching too much Mr. Robot.
Or fight club
A more useful thing would be to do as much damage to Twitter as possible. In fact, why they haven’t attacked Twitter while Musk has been disarming all of its safety protocols is fucking beyond me.
Attacking twitter would be more useful than deleting all debt? I mean go wild, take that shit ass site down but if you had a “delete twitter” button and a “delete all debt” button, mashing the second one would make you the greatest hero who ever lived.
I’m sure backups and redundancies are “inefficient” since “everything is in the cloud, anyway”.
Anonymous tends to not do useful things. They just talk a lot.
“Anonymous” isn’t like a formal group. The entire point is that anyone can say that they are anonymous. So yeah, people talk a lot. You can do whatever you like as anonymous.
mostly they are spending hours scrolling through social media accounts of certain types of people looking for dox materials. that’s really about it
Do it, attack America’s life points directly.
No, my Blue Eyes White Aryan!
Tomorrow
Trump: By executive order, I dismantle the electornic warfare and defense division Musk: It doesn’t exist anymore!
The day after
Anonymous: They turned off their service that sanatized all inputs. We just stole everything from every department, and put cats on every governments webpage.
“The government had both server and client side validation, which is totally wasteful and inefficient! I removed both and may the best one win!”
Elmo, DOGE
hack the planet
By all means do. It’s not like much of value is lost at this point.
It’ll take 40 years to fix the damage he’ll do in 4.
That assumes that we have a party interested in fixing anything.
President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho will be interested.
I don’t think 4 years of accelerated climate damage is gonna be fixed in 40 years…
Oh wow. They’ll shut down a website for a day.
Whoop-tee-doo.
Ah, Anonymous—the digital equivalent of a fart in a hurricane. Trump’s America? Weakness isn’t new—it’s baked into the propaganda circus we’ve called democracy since Reagan. You think script kiddies and Elon’s crypto-bros “hacking fascism” will fix anything? Please. The real op is watching tech oligarchs and politicians collude while we argue about which flavor of dystopia we’re slurping.
Infrastructure attacks? Bold move, Cotton. Let’s see how it works out when grandma’s dialysis machine gets bricked by some edgelord’s Python script. If you want revolution, stop fetishizing IRC nostalgia and touch grass. Until then, this is just digital graffiti on a burning trash barge.
I’m not going to write off hacktivism so quickly.
Even if it’s just a few defaced websites now and then, that’s a whole lot more effective than any other sort of activism I’ve seen to date.
Even a god king bleeds
Oh, sure, let’s romanticize hacktivism, the digital equivalent of spray-painting a slogan on a collapsing wall. A few defaced websites? That’s your bar for effectiveness? The oligarchs aren’t losing sleep over a 404 page; they’re too busy consolidating power while you cheer for digital vandalism like it’s the French Revolution.
Real change doesn’t come from poking at the system with a keyboard and hoping it flinches. If anything, these stunts just give them more excuses to tighten the noose—more surveillance, more control.
You want to fight the machine? Build something better. Organize. Create infrastructure that can’t be co-opted. Until then, hacktivism is just a tantrum dressed up as resistance.
Are you okay?
What a pointless thought-terminating comment.
Do you have any actual critiques or just lame regurgitated snark to try to win imaginary points?
Hit the Government of Putin where it hurts.
If you’re an American praising potential harm to America you should reexamine why you continue being a citizen here. If there are other countries more aligned with your personal morals and values please seek citizenship there.
Sorry, you’re stuck with hoards of people our economy has made too poor to get citizenship elsewhere. Shitty country run by selfish oligarchs. 🤷
Our country hasn’t “made them too poor for citizenship elsewhere” as millions still walk hundreds to thousands of miles to get here. Still more opportunity in the USA than anywhere else. Sure we live under an oligarchy but honestly who doesn’t?
Tell that to the people that occurred to place the orange turd in the White House.
The harm is already here, idiot.
That’s why there’s a traitorous felon squatting in the White House.
I am, because this government has decided the US constitution just doesn’t matter, and now, we have literal nazis running the government.
I stand by my people, not the government oppressing them.
Sure, lemme know where you’re dropping the case of cash at so I can afford to GTFO.
As much and as little that anonymous means, because of the name, because of what the name implies, because of what they do, claim they do, and well, we don’t know what they do… As much as all of that is true, it’s AWESOME to hear from them again, if it is them…
I can’t wait to see “real” anonymous actions again, lord knows we can use it
Genuine question, was it ever anything more than a bunch of 4chaners and script kiddies?
Lol what even is a “real Anonymous”
Its like “Antifa”, its not an organization, its an idea.
I wanna see some more fax spamming.
That’s how you win asymmetric warfare.
Anything supposedly said by “Anonymous” as a hacker group should always be treated with immense skepticism.
There do exist somewhat legitimate sub-factions that actually take serious actions and do serious ops, and also semi-legitimate “outlets” for their statements… but there’s also an overwhelming amount of smokescreen bullshit “anon news outlets” and little script kiddies running around. It’s important/intentional that those continue existing as smoke screen for the more “serious” factions.
Beyond that, being an anonymous group with no real methods of confirming membership to outsiders (insiders can just check if you’re in the private IRCs and etc) it means that just about anyone and everyone can make some big declaration like this. The proof will be in the results, not some announcement that could be made by a rando.
No matter who is really making these threats/warnings, I think things are going to get pretty dire in the US government IT space. It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs have absolutely abysmal cyber security, and now you have a bunch of young adult tech-bros with no true accountability running roughshod over all of it. Then there’s the fact that more than one of them have “serious black hat hacker” backgrounds.
Going to be one wild ride.
Exploit it? The EU thinks they can exploit the chaos? What are they going to do, give us universal health care, a strong safety net, consumer protections, renewable energy and TRAINNNNNNSSSSSSS? (Please, oh please)
Anonymous is bored again? Oh, okay.
“America is becoming fascist” makes me cringe.
It cannon become something that it has been for a long time. US was fascist under Clinton, Bush, Obama, first Trump admin, Biden and it keeps on the same track now. It’s less than useless rallying cry when US foreing policy alone in the past 70 years is a realworld example of the thought experiment of “what would have happened if nazi-germany had won WW2”. Genocide, war, coup, and dictatorship galore committed by the United States, especially after the 80s.
In the end what this narrative is about is that precarious middle class liberals fear that even more of the practices that US has been spreading around the world are now coming home and now the US government will gut it’s own people instead of some foreigners. Even this isn’t unprecedented and at worst Trump can only make things worse for some, but for many what they fear is already reality.
Makes me really think if this “Anonymous cell” has any real grass-roots basis or if it’s just the same coup-mongers hiding behind thin leftist veneer to just jump against Trump, who they see as destructive loose cannon to their operations, not as an real opponent. Nothing new for Anonymous name being used in this way btw. Where were they under Biden?
If they actually gave a shit about spreading awareness, they’d find a way to get that video on Fox News, OANN, etc
Letsdothis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lol this is hilarious. I don’t know which “anonymous” they spoke to, but it definitely wasn’t the actual subversionist hackers that know how to do shit.