Objection
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- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 5 minutes ago:
The fewer weapons that people make for them, the fewer weapons they will have that they can use to kill brown people with. Therefore there is a clear line of cause an effect between making weapons for them and brown people dying. Therefore, the people making those weapons have caused harm, and would deserve to go to Hell if it existed.
This is all very straightforward, I still have no idea what you’re confused aboout.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 20 minutes ago:
The fewer guns they have the fewer brown people they’re able to kill. Obviously.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 52 minutes ago:
I have literally no idea what kind of point you think you’re making.
Yes, reducing spending would not completely eliminate the harm. It would only, you know, reduce it. Since you said you don’t like the idea of cutting it too much, I suggested a reasonable compromise of merely reducing it by 2/3, to be “only” the most well funded military on the planet.
To actually eliminate all the harm altogether would require either a complete shutdown of US military production or a fundamental shift in US foreign policy away from terrorism and domination, which would hopefully involve prosecuting the politicians responsible for current foreign policy for war crimes. Probably in some sort of revolutionary tribunal, because that’s about the only conceivable way for them to be brought to justice.
I’m not sure what part of that you’re confused about.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 4 hours ago:
True, these people will not face justice through any natural force of the universe, only by people holding them accountable for the harm they cause.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 7 hours ago:
Maybe you should set yourself on fire then.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 7 hours ago:
Ok, Mr. Hitler, I’ll give you this truckload of bombs, but you have to pinky promise that you won’t drop them on Britain.
Dangit, he dropped them on Britain, didn’t he? Oh well, not my fault. Guess I’ll go get him another truckload of bombs, he’ll be needing them now.
-The average day of a Lockheed Martin employee
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 7 hours ago:
Building the SUV would be more ethical though.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 7 hours ago:
Why should we demand countries that are only spending 1/3 of what we spend disarm? No, let’s focus on having the most militaristic country in the world, the one that spends as much as the next 9 countries combined, on having that country reduce spending and stop trying to dominate the entire world through military force.
And then we can spend some of that money on giving me health insurance! Everybody wins! Well, except for the corporate executives and their chauvanistic bootlickers.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 12 hours ago:
It’s up to politicians to decide how to use those weapons, not engineers.
Exactly how far does this extend? Because a lot of people involved in supporting the Nazi war effort said the exact same thing.
If you go around solving every problem you’re asked to with no concern for who’s asking or why, that’s how you wind up developing Zyklon B
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 13 hours ago:
If we cut back that much, then we wouldn’t be able to fuel nearly as much death and destruction around the globe. But, not to worry, I’m sure we could still find enough evil to do to both satisfy your desire for blood and to earn the people responsible a cozy little spot in Hell, yes.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 14 hours ago:
Thank you for your service.
- Comment on Shout out to my engineering homies. 14 hours ago:
How about we split the difference and only cut two thirds of all military spending? We would still be pouring more money into it than any country on earth.
- Comment on It would be so funny if China colonizes Mars, then the Martian Colonists declare independence, and Mars become a new bastion of Freedom and Prosperity. 1 day ago:
Bastion of freedom and prosperity? The US?
- Comment on It would be so funny if China colonizes Mars, then the Martian Colonists declare independence, and Mars become a new bastion of Freedom and Prosperity. 1 day ago:
They did enslave indigenous people, they just found it harder to do. They knew the land, and if they escaped they’d just have to make it back to their own communities.
The very first ship that returned to Europe from America had native slaves.
- Comment on The Turing test has been inverted. 4 days ago:
The tortoise was Hamas.
- Comment on [deleted] 5 days ago:
Yes, because that’s exclusively what soldiers do when on deployments. They literally only shoot children.
I literally just acknowledged that they do things other than shoot children. The problem is, “I don’t just murder children, I also do other stuff” is not any kind of defense whatsoever.
EOT on my end. You’re just shouting naive platitudes from an imagined moral high ground, when in reality you’re just ignorant. No point continuing this thread.
And you’re just blindly licking the boots of your oppressors.
- Comment on [deleted] 5 days ago:
I never said anything even remotely similar to “the military is inherently moral”. Is moral of you to put words in others’ mouths?
Calling any form of military “unethical” is the absolute peak level of clueless wishful thinking.
Right, you only said it was “idiotic” to claim that any military was anything but moral, my mistake, that’s extremely different from saying that the military is inherently moral.
Military in normal countries is used in times of peace to help fighting natural disasters, like floods. I don’t see that as immoral. Do you?
Spend a month helping out with natural disasters, but then you go and murder one bunch of kids and everybody just remembers you as a child-murderer 😔
- Comment on [deleted] 5 days ago:
Or I’d have to support people who actually fight for my interests instead of blindly licking boots and rallying around a flag.
Your position can’t withstand even the slightest degree of scrutiny, lol. As expected of a bootlicker.
- Comment on [deleted] 5 days ago:
Hmm, but if I’m conquered by the despot one border over, then I suppose I have to start supporting his military. After all, I’d be an idiot to not support the only people protecting me from the other despite one border over, right?
- Comment on [deleted] 5 days ago:
There’s no real difference between offense and defense. The more secure my position, the more easily I can attack from it without fear of retribution.
- Comment on [deleted] 5 days ago:
Sorry, I’m not sure I’m familiar with this particular school of moral philosophy. What’s it called? Bootlicking?
- Comment on The crusade against Lemmy devs, lemmy.ml, and so-called "tankies" 1 week ago:
Now do Modi and Daesh, liar.
- Comment on The crusade against Lemmy devs, lemmy.ml, and so-called "tankies" 1 week ago:
Usually Hexbear and friends are against actual conversation as a concept. Like other things I’ve experienced that first-hand.
No, I’m perfectly fine with actual conversation. What I’m not fine with is:
Anything wrong there?
See, only mentioning what you disagree with was unclear.
bullshit,
Maybe you’re afraid to say it explicitly, because you’ll get banned, because “NK is great” is the actual party line.
lies,
So, that’s racist - and exactly what I was guessing you meant - but it doesn’t say anything about the quality of what you learned about math and reading.
and more bullshit.
You’re utterly uninterested in “actual conversation.” You’re just here to try to score points against a strawman, and to make shit up and argue in bad faith, and defend all sorts of absurd, nonsense positions just on the basis that they let you score points. The fact that you do so while maintaining a front of politeness in no way makes your engagement any less bad faith. Fuck off.
- Comment on The crusade against Lemmy devs, lemmy.ml, and so-called "tankies" 1 week ago:
If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.
- Comment on Radon 1 week ago:
Maybe they should leak the tech so that everyone’s missiles can be more accurate and have less collateral damage. Giving missile targeting systems to, say, Al Qaida is ethical, actually? 🤔
- Comment on Radon 1 week ago:
Maybe don’t.
- Comment on Calling all Dickheads! 1 week ago:
Is there any way you can describe the appeal more specifically? I hated it but I’m trying to understand what people see in it.
- Comment on The crusade against Lemmy devs, lemmy.ml, and so-called "tankies" 1 week ago:
saying billionaires aren’t very communist gets you instabanned. And also somehow Modi
if Daesh is cool too
You really are just a pathological liar, huh?
- Comment on The crusade against Lemmy devs, lemmy.ml, and so-called "tankies" 1 week ago:
Let’s start with the most revealing thing you said:
The malnutrition being another thing you just ignored.
You asked if there was anything you said that I disputed. Now you’re complaining that I “ignored” some of your points. Why? That just means that I didn’t see anything to dispute. Usually, I don’t take issue with people, you know, not disagreeing with me.
But you do. Why? Because, even after I called you out for it and insisted that we argue based on what I actually say, you’re still trying to argue against this strawman invented in your little liberal gossip circles I’m supposed to give a shit about - that I think the DPRK is “great.” All I said is that I will refute misinformation about it. Are you telling me that what you said was misinformation? Is that why you’re upset I didn’t disagree with it?
Honestly, I should have pressed you for a source on that, but I know how anti-intellectual y’all are and how averse you are to providing sources, how you see yourselves as better than everyone and act like everyone should believe whatever you say, just because you said it, and I decided not to twist your arm about it.
Next, let’s move on to the most infuriating thing you said:
You write well for someone with minimal education. Now who’s lying?
Only a KKKlanadian could manage to say something so arrogant, condescending, and chauvinistic while phrasing it to almost sound like a compliment. Please just call me a slur.
You don’t know shit about my upbringing or educational experiences. You know who else wrote well? Fredrick Douglass. I guess that means that fucking slavery wasn’t that much of an impediment to the education of the victims, if one of them managed to write as well as Douglass. No need for black colleges!
You’ve just defended and endorsed the worst schools in the worst parts of the US, because you’re so confident that I’m “lying” despite not knowing where I went to school. You don’t even know when it was!
One of my earliest childhood memories is dressing up as the “great hero” Robert E. Lee to give a presentation on the Civil War, or as we called it, “The War Between the States,” or, if we were feeling cheeky, “The War of Northern Aggression.” But that’s A-OK with you! I’m a “liar” for saying it was bad!
[Rant about the US]
Cool. North Korea still sucks.
Yeah, the difference is that one of those countries threatened to annex your country and has also abducted random people off the street to perform fucked up mind control experiments on, and the other one is the one you’re obsessed with.
You wanna know what I actually think about Korea? I don’t. I don’t give a shit about it. They haven’t done shit to me so I don’t wanna do shit to them. But you libs are so far up your own asses that you think you’re on some “civilizing mission” where they need white people to come in and teach them about freedom and democracy (which in practice always seems to look like dropping agent orange on their mothers and then stealing all their resources). And you hate me and have to purity test everyone and interrogate their views on Korea because if they’re not on board with your colonialism, it means they’re a race traitor, and that just drives you up the wall, doesn’t it?
Yeah, you don’t wanna stick to what I say, I won’t stick to what you say, US simp.
- Comment on The crusade against Lemmy devs, lemmy.ml, and so-called "tankies" 1 week ago:
That’s a long way of agreeing they are the good guys, with room for exceptions whenever it gets too hard to defend.
Lmao! “You just blindly defend anyone who’s against the West, except for the people who you don’t defend.”