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Missing piece in the numbers here is how many people were uninstalling adguard to switch to uBlock? Using one extension’s install stats to make conclusions about all adblocking extensions seems a bit much.
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Submitted 9 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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key@lemmy.keychat.org 9 months ago
prole@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Right? I’ve never even heard of adguard
rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 9 months ago
AgGuard was (is?) big on Android and DNS. Helped to get rid of ads in many apps.
HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 9 months ago
May also indicate that users were shopping around for a blocker that worked against Youtube. Maybe some of those users actually just settled with AdGuard coming from ABP, or uBlock, or whoever.
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Pretty sure they did that on purpose, trying to skew the narrative. The goal is to make it seem like it’s all doom and gloom because it’ll get people to read the article to the end, and maybe in their minds get some people to stop using adblockers.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I’ve been using uBlock Origin in Firefox on both Linux and Android this whole time. If Lemmy hadn’t lit up about it, I wouldn’t have noticed. I never saw one ad or that “dur hur no ad block” message.
And I let Youtube ads run for YEARS. Ads basically everywhere on the net have become intolerable in their content and quantity, so I said enough. And it is 100% Adsense’s fault.
pachrist@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The fact that ads are so intolerable is the problem. I understand that much of the internet being free is because of ads. But we went from the early days of the internet where ads were malicious, active annoyances to the modern internet where ads are malicious, passive annoyances. Clicking on an ad no longer ruins my afternoon with a virus, but it does log and sell my data to the highest bidder. Nearly every ad on the internet is in bad faith.
Until we have better ads, I will block absolutely everything I can.
sir_reginald@lemmy.world 9 months ago
There’s no such a thing as good ads. Not even before the internet.
RGB3x3@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Ads basically everywhere on the net have become intolerable in their content and quantity,
I was reading a huffpost article the other day in my work computer on Firefox that doesn’t have an ad blocker. The page was refreshing with new ads every 5 seconds and took up like 20% more CPU power than before I opened the page.
So huffpost is now in my mental blocklist.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
yeah we need a coalition of sites that agree a single page serve is fine, they don’t need tons of garbage running in the background.
guacupado@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah I’ve always been on firefox and I haven’t noticed a single thing change during the last year of all this hubbub about Youtube.
samus12345@lemmy.world 9 months ago
uBlock seems to have won the arms race, since whenever I had problems it worked again after updating it.
52fighters@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
With unlock I didn’t even know there was an arms race. Seamless performance the whole time!
RaoulDook@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’ve never given Youtube a cent and I always use adblock, on the endpoints and my network, and I have had no problems watching anything I wanted on youtube. I guess you just have to mercilessly block ads at all levels to achieve dominance
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Yeah, never noticed a thing of this “war” because of FF and uBlock origin.
It all just kept working, including on Youtube.
Dehydrated@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Keep using adblockers and don’t surrender your digital freedom to big tech corporations. Also check out private frontends for YouTube (and other plattforms: www.privacyguides.org/en/frontends/
yamanii@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Youtube is fine for me, never stopped working here on firefox with ublock origin, but twitch though, yesterday I couldn’t watch any stream for 5 seconds without a error that only went away after turning everything off and letting the ads flow.
moody@lemmings.world 9 months ago
Check out TTV LOL PRO. It’s available on Firefox and Chrome and blocks all the ads on Twitch. Very rarely I’ll get a purple “streamer is taking an ad break” screen, but I haven’t seen an ad in quite a while.
yamanii@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I was using video-swap-new from the ad solutions GitHub for months, only recently this happened, such a shame.
DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Same here. Firefox and uBlock Origin. My son uses Chrome with uBlock Origin and was having problems. Constantly and me to check and never a problem. I mostly only watch YouTube on ReVanced
InternetUser2012@midwest.social 9 months ago
I had that issue, then got a user agent switcher and made my firefox on linux look like chrome on windows and I have no issues. Using ublock origin
Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 months ago
So far, no ads on YouTube. The defenses hold!
cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 9 months ago
Adblocker will die when there’s no more ads to see.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
when there’s no more ads to see.
the surviving AI will be upset at the loss of revenue that occurs, but since they’ll exterminate the human race, it’s not an entirely unexpected side effect.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I got hit hard by the cpu bombing that youtube did to punish adblocking, to the point i had to stop watching videos while playing games.
cause having a video running while playing a game would bomb my performance so hard that I’d go from 150+fps to 15fps.
I think, ultimately, Googles war against adblockers Streisand’d the fuck out of adblockers and probably got more people ultimately to use them, either out of spite of googles bullshit or because they saw the arguments and realized the web was far better with a digital condom.
Killer@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The cpu bombing actually wasn’t Youtube, it was adblock plus (if thats what you were using)
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Nope, I use ublock origin.
and never had a problem of youtube impacting games before.
Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I don’t know how true that is about YouTube intentionally CPU bombing ad block users specifically.
I will say though that websites run by big tech companies getting much heavier and more poorly optimized is ultimately just a fact of life. They don’t care about optimization, in fact it benefits them more that people have the latest and greatest hardware so that’s what they’re going to target. Ultimately that means that these websites will get slower on older hardware with time, and people will rely more and more on alternative frontends to access content, and it won’t really matter if you have ad blockers or not (*turning it off on a bloated site that is bogging down your CPU might actually make it worse).
eltrain123@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I wonder if they saw a large enough down tick is user traffic to realize that endlessly badgering people with 5 ads to watch a 30 second clip is driving away their user base.
I know my YouTube consumption has decreased by a factor of 10. I used to use it for almost all of my streaming entertainment. With the password sharing crackdown, I am spending more time reading and going outside than I have in the past decade. That’s a trend these providers don’t want catching on.
Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
My YouTube use is going down because the algorithm absolutely sucks now. I went to the gaming tab 2 hours after the state of play and it was nowhere to be found. But outdated years old crap was being shown.
But never had any ad issues with ublock origin or revanced.
eek2121@lemmy.world 9 months ago
If I had to watch ads, I would not use youtube. Period.
slampisko@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This. My preferred way of catching up to my favorite channels nowadays is watching their content on LibreTube with AdBlock and SponsorBlock on and supporting them on Patreon if they have one.
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
Yeah, recently had my Android with adblockers break, and my YT consumption is almost non-existent now as I watch more on mobile devices than on PC.
As an aside, if anyone has any advice for a ReVanced-like app for iOS, I’m all ears. I miss my Pixel 🥲
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
Youtube still works fine with uBlock origin. I’ve had the adblock detection pop up a few times, but updating the filters fixed it every time. I will never uninstall my ad blocker. The web is not usable without it.
jerrythegenius@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Are the adblocker-detection bits a chrome/ium-only thing? I use firefox w/ ublock origin and I’ve never gotten any
Got_Bent@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’ve gotten it on Firefox this week.
Since I very rarely comment on anything, the solution is generally to just log out of my account.
I need to learn the filter truck mentioned above.
Lmaydev@programming.dev 9 months ago
Yeah I have my adblocker disabled on edge on my work laptop as it messes with my web dev.
I accidentally used it for general browsing and I couldn’t believe what people put up with! It’s like a totally different internet.
ares35@kbin.social 9 months ago
that effect is amplified in areas with only shit-tier internet, like half of rural america.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Still using Firefox + ublock origin + sponsorblock. I’ve not seen an ad on YouTube for years.
On my phone I’m using Tubular, a fork of NewPipe with Sponsorblock integration.
nicetriangle@kbin.social 9 months ago
Yeah ditto, been working fine for me
HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 9 months ago
Seen plenty of people talking about the crazy ads they see on Youtube. Right wing propaganda, blatant grifting, scams... Folding Ideas has done not one but two videos talking about the ads he saw and picking them apart. Surely the people complaining about these ads know adblockers exist right? Why don't they use them? I'm sure there are several reasons but, it's been a known quantity for decades that you have the power to control how many and what kind of ads you see.
dan1101@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Same, on phone Newpipe works fine for me so far.
TerraNova@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Is Tubular an Android only thing? I can’t find it. I’m still looking for an iOS solution.
Dehydrated@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You can use Yattee with this guide
disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Never saw ads against adblock. I use firefox with ublock, and alterbative sponsorblock clients for youtube on android :)
Dr_Chocolate@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This is what I use also, but youtube stopped it and blocked the videos. The work around waa opening in am incognito window.
zaphod@feddit.de 9 months ago
Never had any problems. Did you used to log into an account, maybe that makes a difference?
KuroeNekoDemon@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Same I also add Decentraleyes and Privavy Badger to my repertoire. Never had a problem but maybe I should think about the sponsorblock extension as well
DefiantBidet@lemmy.world 9 months ago
YouTube slowing itself down to unusable made me write a local extension that takes any YouTube watch link and opens it in yewtu.be my life has been better since. Fuck you tube’s stance. You’re gonna make the experience terrible I’ll watch your content via another client.
BReel@lemmy.one 9 months ago
I was someone who always knew about ad blockers, but just wasn’t bothered enough to use them.
I used YouTube SO much that it was worth it to me to have premium.
After all the bitching and moaning from YouTube last year, I un subbed, downloaded free tube instead, and also finally added an ad blocker to both my mobile and desktop browser.
I imagine I’m not the only one with that story haha.
_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I’m watching YouTube right now with uBlock Origin working without issue.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 9 months ago
Did they survive? In my case, they got stronger.
In principle, I actually support the idea of people running sites being able to support themselves financially through advertising. I just don’t like when the ads go too far into obnoxious territory. So before all this, I used Adblock Plus with its “acceptable ads policy” to let through unobtrusive banner ads but block prerolls, large graphics, and interstitial ads.
Unfortunately, ABP didn’t adapt to YouTube’s changes quickly enough, so I switched to uBlock Origin. Now I don’t even see unobtrusive ads. Google shot themselves in the foot over this one.
dog_@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Honestly, whenever I want to watch YT, I just open YT with uBlock Origin and SponsorBlock in a Private Tab. Haven’t really noticed anything, and honestly it helps me to stop watching videos.
oDDmON@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Then, there’s this: restoreprivacy.com/state-spyware-extensively-usin…
For this reason alone, fuck any company banning ad blockers.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
I never even noticed their ‘battle’ using YouTube revanced. (only youtube client I use)
ScaNtuRd@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Well I’m not seeing any ads, so I’d say yes
0xb@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Didn’t uninstall any of my AdBlock layers, but YouTube didn’t survive.
Even though I actually never saw the famous popup, the whole thing made me take steps after months of feeling that the recommendations sucked and I was often wasting lots of time watching stuff I didn’t even like.
Now I’m actually getting back into reading and audiobooks, and using invidious for the occasional watch.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
I read the announcements but I haven’t seen an ad yet on any of my shit.
le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
This made me discover freetube, which is ads free and an excellent way to cut on YouTube « time sink » Google is so good at, with its recommended tab, auto play feature, clickbait title.
Google is in the market of brain time, they want you watch stupid video and ads
In between. Use freetube if you want to get your Brain back. 👍😂Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 9 months ago
I can’t remember the last time I saw an ad on any of my devices, so I’d say “lol”
zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I saw the Youtube banner telling me it detected an ad blocker and wouldn’t let me watch a lot for about a week. Now it’s been over two months with nothing but smooth sailing on μBlock Origin. I’m even back to being able to block Shorts from appearing on my sub feed, where before it seemed like any YT-specific filters would let them detect the blocker.
QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 9 months ago
GrayJay has been great for Android, I haven’t had any issues watching YouTube.
Using the built-in Ad blocking on Brave browser (both Android and Desktop) I haven’t had any slowness or issues with YouTube at all.
foggy@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 months ago
So the news about it being due to a bug with certain browsers and not YouTube itself just went completely under the radar?
frazorth@feddit.uk 9 months ago
I haven’t observed any problems with uBlock Origin on Firefox.
lemmyvore@feddit.nl 9 months ago
For those curious how efficient these things are, recently I did some tests using this tool (clear your cache between tests).
I had decided to install an additional DNS blocker on my OpenWRT router so I was curious how these methods stack up against each other.
I tested uBlock Origin, the Firefox built-in ETP (Enhanced Tracking Protection) and the router adblock (only a modest 65k IPs in the default set, you can add more).
Rexios@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I got a 100% on iOS using Wipr. Not sure that’s accurate if ublock origin didn’t even get a 100%…
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 9 months ago
What list are you using on your router? I’m using Steven Black’s list (which is just an amalgamation of a bunch of other lists) for my PiHole and uBlock filter list, and Firefox scored 99% (only failing the cosmetic static ad test).
Bebo@literature.cafe 9 months ago
Same. Didn’t even get any youtube pop-ups regarding adblocker detection. Also no slowing down observed (as was reported in some articles a while back).
rockSlayer@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I got a pop up once, I cleared the ublock cache and never had any issues after.
eek2121@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I saw a popup once, refreshed and it was gone. 🤣
L_Acacia@lemmy.one 9 months ago
Those slowndown article were clickbait / bad journalism , youtube hasn’t been slowing down the site for adblock user.
HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 9 months ago
I moved from Vivaldi to Firefox during the crackdown, signed out all of my Google accounts, and immediately noticed the problems went away. Sorry Vivaldi...
Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I’ve just stumbled over Floorp, which to my understanding has many of Vivaldis features Firefox doesn’t, like a sidebar, and is based on Firefox
viking@infosec.pub 9 months ago
Same. Not one interruption during the crackdown.
barsoap@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I’ve noticed the occasional jump cut forwards in video where there should’ve been ads, just two or three seconds.
BenVimes@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
I’ve gotten the pop-up once or twice, but updating uBlock fixed that.
I have instead noticed a large decrease in quality, things like frozen images/pages and endless buffering. I don’t know if all that is related, but it did start around the time YouTube started cracking down on ad blockers.