This is why Apple users pay more to not use Google stuff…
Fuck this.
Apple will reportedly start stuffing ads into the Maps app
Submitted 2 weeks ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Default search engine? Google. Apple Intelligence? Believe it or not, also Google.
WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
But no adverts.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes these ads suck, but these are not targeted ads based on your entire history of personal data which is google’s entire business. these are ads shown based on your current location in the maps app. theoretically everyone in your vicinity is getting the same map ads.
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
doubt
also, fuck ads. people are trying to find destinations, not be sold trash from some shitty corporation like mcdonalds or whatever. don’t care the purpose, or the reasoning… if there’s ads, it’s bought and paid for by some jackoff corp that can rightfully fuck off to high hell.
NotSteve_@piefed.ca 2 weeks ago
Maybe but you give them an inch and in a few years the ads will be targeted
Xatolos@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
So… never read Apples privacy policy huh?
unabart@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
That article slurps Apple’s nutsac for having such a great moneymaking idea! Fuck ads. Tired of everything being a vessel for marketing.
realitista@lemmus.org 2 weeks ago
Wow they haven’t even made it good enough for me to use yet and they are already enshittifying it?
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Comaps is available for iphones :3
apps.apple.com/us/app/comaps/id6747180809
also for others:
T156@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A little confused, is this basically the same thing as Open Street Maps, just in app form?
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Yep it uses a selection of the most important data from OSM because the entire thing would be too huge to keep on your phone. You download the map in sections so region/city based but you can also just get an entire country which will be a few GB.
Railcar8095@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They use OSM as source for maps, yes.
Not sure how much they add, aside from offline functionality.
Other apps add extra data sources.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’ve looked at apps like these and weirdly it’s just map you can search through. There’s no turn by turn directions.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
It very much has routing, route saving, turn by turn instructions, voice instructions and more. Idk what you mean.
osanna@lemmy.vg 2 weeks ago
THE reason why i use apple is because I’m not subjected to ads. Is there any point using apple anymore if they’re going to inject ads? Holy shit, Time to go back to android if we’re gonna get ads and instead pay less for a phone.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You can trade your iPhone with an Android user who figured if Google is going to force developer certifications for installing apps then there is no point in using Android over iPhone and they might as well switch.
Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I was going to say the same thing… there’s no point to android anymore either. I guess we’re all going to LineageOS.
ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well… Here’s hoping KDE Plasma Mobile takes off I guess…
myrrh@ttrpg.network 2 weeks ago
…oooh, i sense a business opportunity for an intermediation platform: foneswapp.org, no wait, all electronics in general: eswapp.org, no wait, we can do like used consumer goods: swapp.org: now we’re cooking with gas!..
…register a handful of TLDs, spend an afternoon vibe-coding a prototype, invite over some VCs, revolutionise commerce for the impending societal collapse, father maybe a few hundred children, found a new civilisation that lives in a dome, stay young forever until barbarians come and set fire to our home…
…great idea!..
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Year of the Linux phone!
kuerbiskernoel@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Im just enjoying my ad free life with degoogled android
Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world [bot] 2 weeks ago
lol switching an entire phone ecosystem because there might be an ad coming to your area in the form of one single ad in a search query. bruh, LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Time to dust off my old folded paper maps.
I can sell some of the duplicates I have. I’m gonna be RICH!
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
You can buy up to date ones at the gas station still
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What a piece of crap, this thing didn’t warn me about the bridge being closed and jammed up because of a car fire. Stupid paper…
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nah fuck that shit. If I have to, I’ll whip out the ole Garmin and upload the latest maps to that bitch and go.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Dude someone mentioned this the other day and I pretty mu h went all in on Garmin GPS since then.
I want to use comaps and organic maps and magic earth and all that but they just don’t work well for me but the Garmin is on point.
Plus they say they don’t sell your data. But even if that’s a lie I bought it used off Craigslist so its “Johns” data now.
chaosCruiser@futurology.today 2 weeks ago
Back to the basics: Start carrying a yellow pages book with you so that you can find addresses of various businesses. If you need restaurant descriptions, you need one of those tourist guide books too.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In my town restaurants come and go so fast the yellow pages are basically always obsolete.
sonofearth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lol I used to think they scrapped the maps app entirely. Surprised it still exists. Who even uses it outside the US?
Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
I’m not even an apple user but i use their maps as an alternative to gmaps on ddg.
sonofearth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I throw a lot of shit at Google but Google Maps is the best piece of software they have ever created. I wish OSM was this upto date with their data but it has a long way to go. I think this that piece of software which needs a big dedicated team or at-least paid volunteers instead of community volunteers because there ain’t no way I am going out to volunteer for free to map out my neighbourhood accurately.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
and a shitty one at that… DDG was good, now it’s just Bing + Apple maps which is bad on both fronts
Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
Pretty much everyone?
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
www.openstreetmaps.org
Stop using Apple
titanicx@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Your address is incorrect. You need to drop the s off of it
www.openstreetmap.org
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ooops, thanks for pointing it out. I have corrected the post
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How’s their route algorithms? Never used it for navigation
BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
OSMAnd+ is a good app. Using openmaps. You often Ned the address of where you are going since place searches of businesses may no come up. But the navigation has been good.
Jhex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I have observed no issues. Every once in a while, when choosing large targets like an airport, it’s hard to chose the right “destination” from the many available as the labels don’t always have all details.
Other than that, no issues whatsoever.
PS: to put it in context, I am a casual user who basically never remembers street names or directions so I use it often but it’s not like I am an Uber driver
DataCrime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I mean… maps has been kinda shitty for years!
It’s still better than Wayze trying to sell you burgers and fries at every stop sign… but you need to tap the search box like 3 fucking times to input shit, and why is that? So you have ample opportunity to see Crapple’s list of “suggestions….“
And have you noticed that you need to zoom down to AntMan scale to see the names of some businesses in a shopping center, and yet others are virtually visible from orbit? Could it be that businesses that pay Apple stick out like a sore thumb, and business that don’t virtually disappear? Nah… Fucking Apphole behavior.
It’s time to face facts, Apple stopped giving a shit about the customer years ago. Before their headquarters was literally a Bond villain’s donut you could drive through their parking lot and it was a sea of shitty rust buckets, executive parking lot underground.
I was giving serious consideration to going Android again rather then buying a 2K+ tablet… but then I need to buy a new watch and phone at the same time to have a slim chance of interoperability so it’s basically a wash.
Fuck Apple.
nightlily@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Unfortunately it’s the best option in Germany after Google threw a tantrum over privacy laws here. However OpenStreetMap is getting better.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
I prefer Apple Maps because it’s not ad laden but the coverage for businesses simply isn’t there, and it is pretty aggressive about populating businesses that don’t really exist (ie the business registration not the place of business, if they have one eg Plumber who doesn’t have a shop), don’t exist in the category (eg a factory isn’t a retail establishment), or just plain don’t exist. It also likes to ignore the actual road name for directions; instead of “take the exit towards A361 Burford Rd”, it says “take the exit to Diddly Squat Market” because some street view scanner picked up a sign and chose the wrong one.
If they start pushing ads, Google wins in “find me dinner nearby”.
zewm@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My one deal breaker that keeps me on gmaps over Apple is the forced yelp integration. I refuse to install yelp and to get any meaningful information it tries to open the app.
Gmaps has a way better UX imo.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Yeah that also is awful. Can’t learn anything about the place without getting accidentally redirected to the App Store.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
the difference with google is they’re collecting all that data on you whereas apple is doing non-targeted ads.
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Do you work for apple? You’re all over this thread shilling.
Skv@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Serves anyone using that garbage right.
IratePirate@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Good. Enshittify to your heart’s content, until people realise that just sucking a different big tech corp’s tit is not the solution.
rustyfemboy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
“Apple cares about your privacy”
Tilgare@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not from THEMSELVES, never from themselves.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
I think this is great news.
Apple has been providing an amazing service for free for too long and they deserve to finally make some money.
XLE@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
they deserve to finally make some money
On top of the literal $100 billion a year they already make? The poor souls.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
finally make some money
first to reach 1T
those poor scrappy startups, they need to finally turn a profit
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Finally somebody here standing up for the little guys.
moakley@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s a good point, but is it free? Can I use it without giving Apple any money, or do I need to have an Apple product to run it on?
9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Is that you, Tim?
stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Like apple maps doesn’t suck enough already?
I wish it was better because that’s the map DDG pulls up in search. Wonder if those ads are going to show in DDG sesrches now.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Surely this time their famous design standards will be applied to their UX.
Surely.
9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Honestly, if I want to find a local bicycle shop, and apple maps can help me find one without being obnoxious, then im okay with it as long as they don’t share any data about me with the bicycle shop. I want to shop locally and support my local businesses, rather than shop online.
“Stuffing ads into the Maps app” makes it sound evil, even if we have no idea how it’s going to look.
Beth@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
It’s already been working like garbage lately. Wonder if this is related.
Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
Nothing like free software
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ive got a work iPad. There are ads in the calculator (plus a paid upgrade for like the smart pencil scribble math upgrade. Imagine paying $700 AUD for the cheapest iPad here in AUS, for a subscription fee for the calculator)
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
This was the only reason I used it.
On to the next!
Broiled_Tofu@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I hope your blue bubbles become water marked with adds!!! 😈
Broiled_Tofu@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
No one is talking about the real sin that Apple makes and that sin is having a crappy buggy operating system that has parental controls break and also blast Bluetooth speaker volume to max volume the moment you pause it and start it again. It is a subpar operating system and it’s a piece of garbage.
Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I use Naver maps because I’m in Korea and they’ve kept out the competition until now. They already introduced ads some time back. It’s infuriating.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Mapy.com too :( They locked previously-free features behind a paywall. The 1.5 years old Android app version 9.55.2 still works though
Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
why,espeically iphones are expensive as hell.
Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
There’s room for you at Comaps! It’s nice and it works on iOS, FOSS
uuj8za@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I love Comaps. I have it installed on my Android phone. I contribute to OpenStreet maps when I can.
But, I don’t think Comaps is a realistic replacement for Apple or Google maps.
One: OpenStreet maps is missing a toooon of locations, businesses and residential addresses. Two: having the enter the address in a non-standard way (for the US) City, Street, Building Number, makes finding things even harder. That’s gonna instantly turn away 99% of people.
I still begrudgingly have Google maps installed on my phone… :(
I also have HERE Maps installed on my phone. It’s way more usable than Comaps and it’s not Google. But, it’s not FOSS and still owned by a big corporation. But at least it’s not (entirely) owned by the US (Magic Earth is). For me, I think it’s a decent step away from Google.
I’ll still keep contributing to OpenStreet maps, hoping one day I can switch.
Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I think at this point in my life I’ve added enough to my home town that I’m comfortable using it as my main map program, I also admit to having here maps as a backup, but I haven’t used it in a minute
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
are the two related?
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Guess its just better in Europe, everything is more dense including the number of OpenStreetMap contributors.
Imaginary_Stand4909@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
THAT’S why i always struggled to look up buildings on Comaps! Hell, I wondered why the sesrch was so hard!
My main issue is the lack of traffic data. I wish I didn’t live in a car-centric society, but i do, so I need to know if the route I’m taking is going to be shit.
njordomir@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I read that the one of the differences between Organic Maps and CoMaps is that the server side code for CoMaps is FOSS, while some of the server side code for Organic Maps is not. I hope I understood that correctly. I have Organic Maps installed because it was in the GrapheneOS app store.
If CoMaps has open server-side code, could I create my own map tiles with the best bike routes in my area and self-host them for myself and my friends? I find that google, bing, OpenStreetMap, etc all suck at recognizing good bike routes in my area and hand-curated routes are much better. I’d prefer to hand-curate the best routes color coded based on perceived safety and whether they are daytime only routes or acceptable for nighttime travel. Is something like this doable with CoMaps?
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Holy wah… #2 is a deal breaker for sure. So sad.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I use OsmAnd which I think is also really good. I’ve heard nothing but good things about CoMaps too, like you said, which is a (seemingly well-justified) fork of Organic.
If anyone’s curious about contributing to OpenStreetMap too to make the maps in your area better, I know a bit, and I’d be happy to answer questions, even if they’re just random curiosities.
StillAlive@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
How does one define and name an area?
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
!CoMaps@sopuli.xyz
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Just stay away from Magic Earth; they did a rug pull by going from 99¢/year to like $7-10/year without notifying people.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s my back up for when I have no cell service
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I thought this was a joke ad for a dev convention. Come on over and build something great at Comap(p)s 2026! We have a friendly competition where the team who builds the most feature-rich app all get programmer socks!
SlimePirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Are the paths reversed ?