meat honey

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• coalie@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Spoiler

  The vulture bee is sometimes said to produce a so-called “meat honey”, but this is a misnomer resulting from scientific uncertainty, due to historic confusion of multiple species, each with a slightly different method of processing.

  In one detailed study of Trigona hypogea in Brazil, the vulture bees mixed sugary plant products with a proteinaceous paste from regurgitated meat, and let it mature to form a sweet substance that was used as food; however, the two resources were initially kept in separate “pots” in the colony, neither being true honey (i.e., not derived from nectar), but they were then mixed together.

  In a different study of Trigona necrophaga in Panama, the bees gathered nectar and produced honey, and they also produced a glandular secretion, derived from carrion, partially metabolized, used as a protein source, and kept completely separate from the honey. In neither case were the bees mixing meat-based substances with floral-derived substances.

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  • snoons@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Vulture bees usually enter the carcass through the eyes. They will then root around inside gathering the meat suitable for their needs.

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    • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There needs to be metal band called Vulture Bees, this is too metal.

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    • prettybunnys@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      On bed of mottled rocks 
      Amid flowers cold as ice 
      Pray the weak, the old, the poor
      
      And when the tiny one from Heaven comes 
      Crawls inside the chosen skull 
      And when the tiny one it summons the others 
      To crawl inside the chosen skull
      

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  • Akasazh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In one detailed study of Trigona hypogea in Brazil, the vulture bees mixed sugary plant products with a proteinaceous paste from regurgitated meat, and let it mature to form a sweet substance that was used as food; however, the two resources were initially kept in separate “pots” in the colony, neither being true honey (i.e., not derived from nectar), but they were then mixed together.

    So it’s not incorporated in the honey. They have a separate protein stache.

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A protein stache would be part of a meat beard.

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    • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Fascinating. It’s worth mentioning that (normal) honey can be used to preserve meat, thanks to its antimicrobial and hydrophilic properties. I guess that’s what’s going on here too: they use a kind of nectar honey to keep the meat component from going off. That said, this kind of food preservation isn’t immune to botulism so do be careful if you try this.

      Now I’m wondering when/how this behavior evolved. Did these guys come first, and honeybees figured out how to eat pollen as a protein source as an evolutionary step, the other way around, or separately at the same time from some parent species?

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  • RaoulDuke85@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My mudhoney cover band.

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    • 0ops@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No it’s my Meat Puppets cover band

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    • BruisedMoose@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Every Good Boy Deserves Meat Honey

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  • Mandarbmax@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I just came into the comments to post that. Thank you!

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• quantumcrop@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Using their extra-toothed mandible, they will slice and chew the flesh off, coating the meat in their acid-rich saliva before consumption. The bee will transport the chewed carrion back to the colony where it’s regurgitated into wax pots, different from the honey pots.

  Here, the meat will be mixed with honey and left to mature over a period of 14 days. During this curing time, it will become a paste-like substance that is rich in free amino acids and sugars. This paste is fed to their young, who need it to grow.

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  So basically a potted meat but with sugar instead of fat. Apparently they also keep normal honey that’s separate from the meat honey. Bees are so fucking cool.

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• 5715@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nature does depravity.
  Humans: “Is it edible?”

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  • rollerbang@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    While I would agree on the surface, it’s not really depravity. We’ve got to do away with rotting meat somehow. Hence why vultures are so important.

    Still upvoted though.

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    • 5715@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I just wanted to use that word… The whole sentence is just a word game given that personifying environment into nature is common, but wrong.

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  • Nikls94@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    People learning about mushrooms: This one tastes like beef, this one killed bob instantly, and that one made me see god for 2 weeks

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  • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Like is that at all surprising? Starvation was a leading cause of death through much of history and pre-history, of course folks start to eat and drink dubious things. Ever heard of folks sucking the eyes out of fish to get fresh water? That’s on the milder end of what our instincts will force us to do under the right circumstances.

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• negativenull@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  IRL Zerg home base

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• Gsus4@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  beeswiki.com/vulture-bees/

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  • filcuk@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As vulture bee honey is derived from animal flesh, it is not suitable for vegetarians.

    Phew that’s good to know! Nearly gourged myself on some corpse honey

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    • Sphks@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Honey produced by vulture bees is a pleasant tasting and sweet smelling honey-like liquid.

      It’s strange that it doesn’t taste like rotten flesh.

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• IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No thanks, I’m good.

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  • 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No good, I’m thanks, dad

    What

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• ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That hive looks like I’m not high enough level to fight whatever is in there.

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• e_chao@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  a smoky, salty, and savory taste rather than being sweet beezzit.com/…/meat-honey-the-strange-secret-of-vu…

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sounds like it goes great with normal meat

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• OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nope

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• otter@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This one probably needs a NSFW filter, for “I was eating” reasons 😅

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  • Gonzako@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    NSFE

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• manmachine@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think I saw that in Dead Space

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  • bluesheep@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Was about to say, this is some resident evil type shit

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      was just about to say this looks like doom demon hives

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• sober_monk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well, I know what my players are facing next time they venture into the Underdark…

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  • ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are they finding the person who decided to test the edibility of the corpse nest?

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    • sober_monk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Now that you mention it, hell yes they are!

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• raven@lemmy.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I would not want the honey from Resident Evil anywhere near my breakfast.

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• Moxie_empathizer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So busy with “could” didn’t worry with “should”

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• alzymologist@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ok, as I understood it, there is “edible honey” that is really plant-based, and “carrion meat-based protein storage” that kind of works like pollen storage in honeybees nest. TBH, I find pollen more nutritional and tasty than honey. And I know that honey bees are opportunistic carnivores too. These things kind of come together in a story better left untold.

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  • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve seen people turn bright red and itchy after eating pollen, presumably it’s a likely allergen?

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    • alzymologist@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It totally is! I’m allergic to several types of pollen, also I live in the middle of the forest and am a beekeeper. My stomach hurts when I eat that stuff. Nothing of this stops me; I also love Spring. I feel quite sick now, too (well, cold weather came back and it’s a bit easier than 2 days ago). Good that I have mild allergy, I’d be dead by now if I had it hard. When birch flowers unusually hard, I sometimes have a symptom that feels like how people describe asthma.

      Maybe some day I’ll get desensibilized enough, after eating this stuff regularly. Maybe I’ll die trying.

      My neighbor doctor - also a beekeeper - says that many people who perceive honey as slightly spicy actually get allergic reaction from traces of pollen in it. He also thinks my strategy of eating pollen to overcome allergy should eventually work; I think I just like the taste too much to stop.

      The trick with pollen I’ve discovered is that as soon as it is extracted from the honeycomb, it starts quickly degrading; whenever it’s sold, it’s bleak tasteless flavorless powder, not even close to explosion of flavor that happens when you chew on a fresh blob right from the honeycomb (usually with the honeycomb, who cares, it’s edible too. Almost everything inside the nest is edible, apart form the frames and other human-made nonsense). Apparently you can get the stuff only from an actual beekeeper (or by raiding wild bees nest probably, I think it’s not a good idea though), and I only figured it out when I started keeping bees!

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  • Windex007@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What do bees need pollen for? I thought bees just got bukkaked as an co-evolutionary repayment for the nectar they’re jacking?

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    • alzymologist@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s their protein source; honey is pretty much carbs-only, good in winter, when they just keep warm, but raising kids on that is not good. Besides, bees are wasps, and wasps are carnivores, they need protein and mostly eat pollen protein in summer if they can. Honeybees eat flesh too, including cannibalism, just less often than plant material - apparently, with organized labor veganism turned out to be more effective, at least for them. No morals behind it, pure business.

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• sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Alright. I would.

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  • wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Actually, that’s a really good point to which I really want to know the answer. We have to assume that, since it’s effectively fermented meat, the prion would survive, but maybe they’re really efficient at turning all of the protein into unbound amino acids?

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• DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s a whole raft of things that are technically edible, that I want nowhere near my mouth. Add this to the list.

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• Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They are also stingless, how interesting.

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  • Gumus@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Corpses don’t usually fight back…

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• ramenshaman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s pretty metal

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• LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Okay this might be more disgusting than the rotten Sardinian maggot cheese, even though the maggots can jump

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• expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  when i hear couples calling each other honey, this is what i will picture in my head

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  • Akasazh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Dark, yet uplifting

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    • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I can’t explain why, but this got a lol

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• BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That means someone tried it out

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• Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Rotted bee vomit. No thx

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  • InTheNameOfScheddi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Regurgitated rotten flesh bee vomit* :)

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Correct. Bee vomit doesn’t rot.

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• DaedalousIlios@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Babe, wake up! New Vita Carnis monster just dropped!

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• TyrionBean@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So, basically: Rotting flesh-eating zombie bees produce honey which few outside of a certain cultural milieu will ever find appetizing or acceptable? 😃

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• SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Alien Bees is what I’m getting from this

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• kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Lovecraftian horror.

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• samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Image

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• Zerush@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Always it’s bee shit

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    *Vomit, actually.

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    • Zerush@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not better

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• senorblackbean@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Soylent Green Honey ™

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