KB5077181 was released about a month ago as part of the February Patch Tuesday rollout. When the update first arrived, users reported a wide range of problems, including boot loops, login errors, and installation issues.
Microsoft has now acknowledged another problem linked to the same update. Some affected users see the message “C:\ is not accessible – Access denied” when trying to open the system drive.
Microsoft Confirms Windows 11 Bug That Locks Users Out of the C: Drive
Submitted 2 weeks ago by throws_lemy@reddthat.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://windowsreport.com/microsoft-confirms-windows-11-bug-that-locks-users-out-of-the-c-drive/
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JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
stoy@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Let’s not pretend that Linux is without bugs.
Matty_r@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Let’s not pretend that Microslop is capable of producing good software.
Damage@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
It’s a lot easier to accept bugs when you’re not paying for it, it’s not spying on you, it lets you do what you want, and it respects your freedom.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It is a hell of a lot less buggy
And the bugs that are there we are aware of. Microsoft may or may not fix severe security bugs, opting to hide the information instead because it’s better for their bottom line
Microsoft always had been a bug riddled mess that people paid for and then they needed to pay even more to be able to get their shit still working
Now with the AI slop apparently contributing 30% of the code, things have gone off a cliff
So no, nobody is pretending Linux is bug-less, it’s just that Microsoft is that bad
mech@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
In 20 years I never had a system-breaking (or really even any noticeable) bug from an update.
flameleaf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It doesn’t lock you out of your C: drive
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The downvotes for this little nugget of truth suggest to me that linux fans are somewhat cultish.
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Hello there
bilb@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
CeilingPenguin is watching you masturbate
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I like how, once AI is invented, there is never a problem that isn’t AI related.
Microsoft made broken shit before AI, it isn’t like they suddenly lost that capability once AI was invented.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
It’s more like the old adage but extended: “To err is human, to really foul things up you need a computer, but to make an unbelievable mess you need an AI.”
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That is certainly true and may very well be the case here.
It could also be the case that a human developer forgot to bounds check an array and iterated out of bounds, corrupting some important kernel variable. We won’t know unless we get a postmortem.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
AI enables them to automate the generation of shitty code for broken systems even more efficiently
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
*Microslop
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I use Linux exclusively, my family’s laptops are all Linux, I self-host, etc. I’m no Microsoft fanboy, so believe me when I tell you…
…that is a stupid name and anyone using it sound like a clown.
AI’s use in industry is destructive to knowledge workers, the massive dump of capital in the computer hardware markets have caused massive disruption in secondary markets and the coming market crash will affect everyone in the world. There are plenty of easy arguments to be made against using AI.
Going into a comment section and posting “Well, acktually, you mean MicroSLOP!” does none of that. It’s performative, not substantive.
pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
But there weren’t that many bugs.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That seems like an easy statement to prove. How many bugs were there before AI vs after?
I may be wrong, but I would guess that you haven’t seen any data to back up your statement and you’re basing it on your perception based on social media posts.
You see a lot of clickbait articles where the author highlights a specific patch note or vulnerability and tries to tie that to AI. They’re doing that to earn revenue because anti-AI posts get traffic… they’re not trying to objectively inform you about the rate of bugs in Microsoft’s products. Your perception is being skewed by selection bias.
DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Huh, my computer doesn’t seem to be affected.
I’m using Arch, btw.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 weeks ago
I think I’m affected because I can’t access the C: Drive.
I’m using Debian, btw.
LordCrom@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think I’m affected because I can’t locate a c: drive.
I’m using Mint, BTW.
bhamlin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There’s your problem. You should be using Arch.
I use slackware, btw.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Seems like your pc isn’t affected because you don’t have a C drive? Try create a C drive and see if there’s an issue.
cabillaud@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Mount c:\windows /root
bilb@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Fedora’s better ;)
marighost@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Microsoft believes the issue may be related to the Samsung Share application, although the exact cause has not yet been confirmed.
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NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Who are we kidding that number is outdated at this point. Probably 40% now given the increase in ridiculous bugs.
saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They need to rapidly reduce the complexity of their software if they want to get this under control. The answer is NOT to add more features, it’s to simplify things.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
They aren’t capable of doing that.
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Why use their stock ticker instead of their name?
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Great idea, I’ll ask Copilot to do that
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
That was the state of windows in 2005
wunderbred@fedinsfw.app 2 weeks ago
Never again, Windows.
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Microslop.
ryper@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
We just had this month’s Patch Tuesday and they’re still dealing with problems caused by last month’s?! I really need to try harder to convince my father putting Linux on his current computer is a better idea than buying a Windows 11 computer.
mkhopper@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ugh… I’m so tired of “microslop” and “AI slop”.
I’m not defending Microsoft in any way, but they were releasing buggy updates long before the rise of AI.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You know what’s going on inside the large companies that are hoping to cash in on the AI thing? All workers are being pushed to use AI and goals are set that targets x% of all code written be AI-generated.
And AI agents are deceptively bad at what they do. They are like the djinn: they will grant the word of your request but not the spirit. Eg they love to use helper functions but won’t necessarily reuse helper functions instead of writing new copies each time it needs one.
Here’s a test that will show that, with all the fancy advancements they’ve made, they are still just advanced text predictors: pick a task and have an AI start that task and then develop it over several prompts, test and debug it (debug via LLM still). Now ask the LLM to analyse the code it just generated. It will have a lot of notes.
An entity using intelligence would use the same approach to write the code as it does to analyze it. Not so for an LLM, which is just predicting tokens with a giant context window. There is no thought pattern behind it, even when it predicts a “thinking process” before it can act. It just fits your prompt into the best fit out of all the public git depots it was trained on, from commit notes and diffs, bug reports and discussions, stack exchange exchanges, and the like, which I’d argue is all biased towards amateur and beginner programming rather than expert-level. Plus it includes other AI-generated code now.
So yeah, MS did introduce bugs in the past, even some pretty big ones (it was my original reason for holding back on updates, at least until the enshitification really kicked in), but now they are pushing what is pretty much a subtle bug generator on the whole company so it’s going to get worse, but admitting it has fundamental problems will pop the AI bubble, so instead they keep trying to fix it with bandaids in the hopes that it’ll run out of problems before people decide to stop feeding it money (which still isn’t enough, but at least there is revenue).
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
You’re spot on regarding how AI operates.
AI is stupid story time!
I recently helped a friend with a self-hosted VPN problem. He had been using a free trial of Gemini Pro to try to fix it himself but gave up after THREE HOURS. It never tried to help him diagnose the issue, but instead kept coming up with elaborate fixes with names that suggested they were known issues, like The MTU Traffic Jam, The Packet Collision Quandary, and, my favorite, The Alpine Ridge Controller Trap. Then it would run him through an equally elaborate “fix”. When that didn’t work, it would use the failure conditions to propose a new, very serious sounding pile of bullshit and the process would repeat.
I fixed it in about fifteen minutes, most of that time spent undoing all the unnecessary static routing, port forwarding, and driver rollbacks it had him do. The solution? He had a typo in the port number in his peer config.
I can’t deny that LLMs are full of useful knowledge. I read through its output and all of its suggestions absolutely would have quickly and efficiently fixed their accompanying issue, even the thunderbolt/pcie bridging issue, if the real problem had been any of them. They’re just garbage at applying that information.
ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Now ask the LLM to analyse the code it just generated. It will have a lot of notes.
Not only will it have a lot of notes, every time you ask if to analyze the code it will find new notes. Real engineers are telling me this is a good code review tool but it can’t even find the same issues reliably. I don’t understand how adding a bunch of non-deterministic tooling is supposed to make my code better.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They’ve earned that name at this point
Diurnambule@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
True but if microslop can be yhe downfall of microslop I will jump on the bang wagon.
stoly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s because they got rid of testing and quality control. They are only doing minimal testing now in controlled environments while the world is messy.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Install Linux. Problem Solved.
Pirate@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
It’s hilarious that the issues people think Linux creates (like for example the disk deleting itself) are exactly what happens on Windows lol.
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It’s hilarious how far you had to jump to land on that conclusion.
rodneylives@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There was a story going around back in Septe er ago about the person whose wife used OneDrive on her phone. It had taken upon itself to copy 25+GB of data on the phone into OneDrive, despite only having the free account tier, and copying it to their Windows 11 PC. There it completely filled up its small SSD boot drive, putting it into a condition of extremely low disk space, which in made it impossible for Windows to boot. Here it is.
Auth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I doubt that story. I’m a linux user at home but at work I admin windows and linux systems. I can see his logic because hes thinking how I would. But windows doesnt behave like that. On linux you can fill a drive and get issues booting but windows leaves space so that even when the user drive is full the system can still create temp files needed for operation. Whatever he did trying to get around the default behavior he misconfigured something
rodneylives@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I dunno? It sounds very plausible, exactly the kind of thing that Windows would do. I posted about it to Metafilter some time back and no one there seemed to think it couldn’t happen.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Bunch braindead vibe coders at fault I bet
Zomg@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Sounds like they let AI touch it
Lanske@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What a sloppy OS they produced!
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You don’t need
C:\. All your data should be in the 365 cloud anyway. Storing files locally inC:\leads to antipatterns like not paying Microsoft for 365 access (a.k.a “Software Piracy”)bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Who could have possibly predicted that an operating system with vibe code in the kernel would be complete ass
golden_king@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
proof? im pretty sure the windows kernel is man made not ai made
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Its funny how literally every bug in code now is assumed to be AI, as if we didn’t live/deal with buggy programs for decades before it.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Solution: install linux
Just like I have been calling macOS “NonfreeBSD” I will now be calling Windows 11 “Slop_OS”
melfie@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Latest version of Windows eliminates the C drive, leaving only OneDrive for users to store their files.
🤬
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What would happen if you trained an AI entirely and solely on Microslop’s knowledge base?
Auth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A lot of people didnt read the issue. This was an issue with the samsung connect app.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hopefully this doesn’t give Microslop executives the idea of turning it into a feature to force their users to save their files onto OneDrive
nocteb@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
morged continvously
fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This should be yet another opportunity for Windows refugees to come to the Kingdom of Torvalds.
mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ffs how can at this much further into Windows cycle, and we still have shit like this? I mean the main drive is the most important one, I can understand if this happens to Win 1 or 2 but after soo many iterations? Just no.
wabafee@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Clearly the fix is boot in Linux
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Some slop for you.
Some slop for you.
Some slop for you.
Anyone else want slop?
Denalduh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Hmm… I should start updating my work computer since the “IT” got upgraded my pc to 11 to fix a problem that wasn’t fixed with the upgraded.
fatalicus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So probably not a Microsoft issue, but a Samsung issue, since Samsung share is the culprit?
JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
There must be something really seriously wrong at Microsoft. I can understand that Windows patches are complex and that they might break some of those crazy things people are running on their machines. But how is a bug that is killing access to the C:\ drive able to get through testing? WTF are they doing?
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s going to come out that there’s AI in the code. And the code testing was done by AI, who gave the buggy code the green light.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Or worse: AI is doing the QA as well
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They don’t need testing because they tell the ai to not make any errors
mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
my boss loves AI and he uses it for everything. he made some stats graphs and summaries, and he was bragging how he got AI to make them errorless: he tells it to check for errors and makes it swear it’s accurate… while we were looking at a graph where the y column numbers were all fucked up
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It’s Microslop. This is what’s wrong.
yucandu@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s not as bad as that time they permanently deleted user documents and photos.
See they had this trick where if you didn’t have enough space on your drive to unpack an update, they’d just move your shit to OneDrive temporarily, then move it back when the update was done. Only they forgot to move it back, and lost it. Oops.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Seriously?!?! 😲
criss_cross@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My company is starting to roll out having AI both put up PRs AND give code reviews.
I would not be surprised to hear Microslop is doing the same thing and having horrible results.
Amazing what happens when you try to turn your talent pool into lifeless casino monitors.
evol@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
No one smart is going into windows dev in 2026. It’s like working on IBM mainframes. Only people left to work are middle of the road new grads they hire and boomers who are retiring.
Rothe@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Vibecoding. Microslop has peddled AI so much that they have gotten addicted to their own supply.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Probably AI code getting tested by AI.
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
*Microslop