Xbox Co-founder Says Microsoft is Quietly Sunsetting the Platform

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• vane@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think they are sunsetting whole company.

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  • flying_sheep@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s what their actions felt like for decades yet somehow they’ve always kept chugging along.

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  • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I can only hope.

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  • sakuraba@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You mean Microsoft? I hope but I doubt it, they have a lot of companies locked in their products

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  • sexy_peach@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Wtf I just came up with the same comment without reading yours first.

    So yeah, I agree. They must have done the calculation that it’s easiest to just not exist and lay everyone off.

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nah, shifting heavily toward being B2B.

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• buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I love how nobody here is getting me actual picture. They’re not going to sell Xbox to people anymore. What’s going to happen is they’re going to turn to a subscriber model where you have to log into a data center that they control and use your browser to play video games. Paying a monthly subscription for the privilege of playing their exclusive games. In fact I will bet money that the first product that will be introduced with this feature is going to be the highly anticipated upcoming Grand Theft Auto 6.

  Mark my words. Either at the time of release or shortly thereafter they’re going to introduce the ability to subscribe to play GTA 6 in your browser on a remote gaming system. And then they’re going to phase out physical Xbox systems over the next couple of years.

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  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This has been tried before and never worked well. What makes you think its going to work any better now?

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It doesn’t need to work well.

      It needs to sound like it will make more money for MSFT’s board.

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    • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The only thing that makes me think it might work this time is that for some reason Microsoft has this magical ability to take a bad idea, make the shittiest possible iteration of it and have it mysteriously become the most widely-adopted standard against all logic.

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    • Wilson@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh man, those stadia controllers. Not the stupidest $99 I’ve ever spent, but still pretty dumb.

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    • Zink@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Attitudes like that are not how we got a trillion dollars in spare data center infrastructure to find a use for!

      Those consumers will be happy owning nothing THIS time!!

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    • dr_robotBones@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Why the LLM-driven scarcity in computing parts of course, and a little bit of cartel behavior when Nintendo and Sony inevitably announce the same thing next year.

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  • tiramichu@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The PS5 version of GTA6 is going yo sell pretty well then

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  • phx@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    To play games coded by a shitty AI, full of bugs and as many microtransactions as possible …

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    • entwine@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is the game buggy? Worry not! Microsoft™ Copilot 365™ powered by Azure™ will analyze your gameplay in realtime, detect when a bug occurs, and redirect you to an AI generated troubleshooting page.

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  • dr_robotBones@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My cloud computing teacher says the future of personal computing is just monitors connected to the cloud. Why couldn’t I have been born in the 70s?

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  • greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The old “we don’t want to put any effort into creating anything good, we just want to milk this for cash until we can’t anymore.”

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• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  When you set an impossible goal (30% profit margin for the division), you know that you are killing off that division, just, slowly.

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• aviationeast@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Microsoft is quietly sunsetting everything they cant make money on with AI.

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  • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So, everything?

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    • sundray@lemmus.org ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It feels that way. Every ongoing product MS has feels decrepit and ready to collapse.

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    • BillyClark@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They’re still scamming the shit out of businesses with their corporate software. Oh and they have Azure which I’m guessing makes money.

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  • Xorg_Broke_Again@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m so happy that in the recent years Linux made leaps and bounds in terms of usability so now we have an alternative that actually works well, especially since Microsoft just stopped caring about desktop Windows users.

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  • mephiska@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They can’t even make money with their AI, they only survive off the windows OEM licenses, Office 365 subs that businesses are locked into and their backend server and sql stuff. That’s enough to make them a walking dead for a long time.

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    • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And eventually companies will hopefully start cancelling those subscriptions to move to Open Office or Libre Office.

      France is already starting that push by having government departments transition first, and are projected to save millions of euros in licensing fees each year. Once you get a critical mass of users on libre software, it’ll hopefully spread on its own

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  • lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So, also AI?

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• JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s insane how Microsoft is handling Xbox:

  • They have their own console and Windows
  • They bought everything they could and now own most of the biggest gaming franchises outside of Nintendo: Activision-Blizzard. Minecraft. Halo. Call of Duty. Warcraft. Starcraft. Diablo. Candy Crush. Elder Scrolls. Fallout. id software. Bethesda.

  They have everything in place and are still getting slapped around by Valve and Sony and are now talking about shutting down everything?

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  • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As a long time IT guy… this is how Microsoft does everything

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    • Jeremyward@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      🌍👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀.meme

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  • Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They thoroughly shit the bed, it’s an astonishing display of incompetence.

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    More than likely they’ll just sunset Xbox the platform and rent you the ability to play games on the cloud using your phone, smart TV or computer. And all those franchises will be rentable first, then maybe buyable some day later.

    Among other things they have huge data centers that are going to be unused come AI collapse - they just need to figure out how to run games on those GPUs, as they’re very very different from gaming GPUs.

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• justsomeguy@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is for the best. As someone who is forced to work with a lot of Microsoft infrastructure let me tell you things have never been this broken before. They keep doubling down on AI and it simply doesn’t work.

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  • anarchyrabbit@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I feel you brother. It’s bad. They are pushing AI features at the speed of light but forgetting that other things need attention too. Log a support ticket and it spews out AI shit that I have already tried or doesn’t help.

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    • justsomeguy@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My favorite last week was 2 dead support numbers and a third that let to AI which happily told me it has a solution that will fix the problem. The link it sent brought me to the bing search page.

      I was so happy to finally talk to indian support a day later.

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  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    didn’t the new exec come from their AI division?

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    • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is this how they put her out to pasture? “Your AI division has been such shit that we’ll put you in charge of a division we plan to close…”

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    • sakuraba@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      depends on what you mean with ‘AI’, like builder.ai

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  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There are already a bunch of documented but umimplemented functions in a few Xbox related API, like GameInput.

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• mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I love how corporations work. “Hey, we completely fucked this up. We mishandled it, made decisions our customers hate, and now we’re scrapping it because we might lose money.” “Could we fix it? Sure. But that would mean changing the business model that made us money 20 years ago, and that’s terrifying. There’s a risk we might lose money.” “And sure, the board won’t lose a dime personally. But the stockholders, basically meerkats who scatter at the first loud noise might panic. And we can’t have that. We might lose money.”

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• Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The console wars have ended. The PC is victorious.

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  • absquatulate@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Some victory. PC sales were plummeting in favour of mobile and now component prices. Console space is now done with any semblance of competition - Sony is now a monopoly and will start behaving as such. And xbox’s portfolio of many many IPs will go straight to the bin.

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    • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ah fuck I forgot about mobile and I hate to consider it.

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    • sakuraba@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In what world is Sony a monopoly when Nintendo exists?

      The Switch 2 is not a dedicated home console but it is a console

      Don’t get me wrong, consoles are dying too, memory prices have gone up and Sony is already shifting from making money from consoles to making money from subscriptions

      Nintendo is just doing their thing and becoming the Apple of the videogame industry

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    • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, many of them will go to PCs or Sony over giving up

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  • BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You mean Tencent mobile games

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    • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Microsoft owns King. The candy crush franchise creator.

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    • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No

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  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’d like to see you try to build a PC right now for less than $1,500. The cornered the market on all of the parts necessary to make a computer that can run games well.

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    • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Bro I am playing Webfishing and Space Station 14 on a T460s running linux. Caves of Qud as well. You’ve been lied to. You can game without any of that shit if you’re not trend chasing battlefield.

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  • ThePantser@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No, the new player in the game, AI killed everything.

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    • Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My PC will still boot when the people turn on the data centers in the next 6 months. Can AI say the same?

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• umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My feeling on Xbox since Xbox One days has been pretty much “this is an awesome platform, you’re sitting on a gold mine Microsoft, what the fuck are you doing?”

  The last bit of brilliance they did utilise properly was GamePass, and of course they cocked that up by getting greedy.

  Last few years have been extremely rough. The only lucky thing about this is that instead of full Xbox exclusivity Microsoft was pushing Xbox/Windows cross functionality. …Yeah, I’ve been pivoting to PC, but Steam/GOG instead.

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  • eli@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The Xbone is what made me go PC full time.

    Been a Xbox gamer since the original Xbox with Halo CE. LAN parties galore. Halo 2 and the beginning of Xbox Live was amazing. Bought a X360 at launch, got Gears and Crackdown for the Halo 3 multiplayer beta. Halo 3 was peak.

    And then Xbone announced. Always online. Kinect required. “Sports” “Live TV”. Yeah, not falling for that. “Can’t just flip a switch”.

    Yeah I cancelled my Xbox Live sub and built a PC. 2500K with a 550ti. Haven’t looked back since. All of my friends in our group did the same, but some bought a PS4 as well for the SP games.

    Microsoft just doesn’t care. They have enough money to not care. But the writing has been on the wall for a long time for Xbox and I’d be genuinely surprised if they release another console and I’d be even more surprised if anyone actually buys it. It’s a dead ecosystem.

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  • Master167@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s been a sad thing to watch. I was the biggest Xbox fan in my circles in the 360 & One days. But by the time Series X came out, I was so disappointed in their games that I still don’t own it. Microsoft bought so many companies that I thought would bring games. Yet, most of them aren’t producing anything.

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    • Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nintendo isn’t doing much better. I was a Nintendo stan for most my youth but now they’re the leaders in stagnant games and dark patterns. You just can’t trust corporations not to backstab you anymore. Indie and opensource only for me here on.

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    • Zanshi@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think MS has been surprised and confused by the success of Xbox ever since the very first one came out. It kinda stuck, and the upper management probably never really had a good idea what to do with it, as it just never really worked with them being oriented on business offerings. Remember Ballmer going wild during Xbox One reveal? Yeah. I think during this gen and previous more and more of the business people came into Xbox, and thus the meandering of the brand. They have no clue what gamers want, they’re penny pinchers and pencil pushers.

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  • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Enshittifying

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• DannyMac@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I guess they’re going to go all-in on AI despite only 3.3% of MS365 subscribers paying for Copilot. Stonks?

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  • entwine@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The sunk cost fallacy is a bitch

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  • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They’re going to go all-in on paid streaming gaming services, like every major company for the next thousand years.

    You will own nothing and be happy.

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• myrrh@ttrpg.network ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “Cortana, play a game for me.”
  “Cortana, am I having fun?”

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  • redditmademedoit@piefed.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Lol is this an actual ”feature”? Can’t tell anymore.

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    • knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I remember news about a console giant that wants to introduce a “feature” that plays for you when you’re stuck in a game. In my childhood you had to look at the game manual for clues, ask your friends for help or sleep over it and try again days later. Nowadays you just look up a guide online. Soon you’ll press a button and the game will play itself.

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• acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  xbone was the beginning of the end. when the enshittification kicked in before we had a word for it.

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  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Enshitification has been a thing since the 1940s. I remember in the 80s my grandma saying she used to get pretzels from the corner store. Big soft gooey chewey pretzels.

    Now, in the 80s, I could only get a factory made crunchy pretzel rod.

    And today? Unless you’re buying a whole bag, you can’t get pretzels at all.

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    • QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Gone are the mom and pop bakeries too. :(

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If you are ever on a road trip and go by a Wawa gas station, stop and get their soft pretzels. buy as many as you can and freeze them for later.

      The german grocery store Lidl also has decent soft pretzels.

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• njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ain’t that quiet.

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• BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Look some people may say Xbox has confusing naming scheme, but it’s very simple, number just goes up:

  First one is Xbox one. Noone in Microsoft is dumb enough to call “one” console that isn’t first of the series. Then Xbox X (because X is Roman 10) then the Xbox 360.

  Very easy

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• logicalmoody@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They’re sunsetting the platform alright, but nothing about it is quiet

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• the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  When xbox first hit the scene it was a breath of fresh air. Now its just a stale fart, its time for it to die.

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• LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I went to walmart to look for a new xbox controller for my xbox one x and they had maybe 12 games for the Xbox series X and NONE of them were anything i would ever want to purchase. Also the series X is a trash piece of equipment that has constant overheating issues, you cannot replace the hard drive if it dies, and it looks absolutely horrible design wise. They also had zero consoles in stock, while Best buy had about 12 open box Series X that people had returned for one reason or another at the outlet store.

  So looks like even retailers are giving up on it.

  The xbox one x was the last good console xbox made and even it has a ton of heat related issues with the HDMI circuit.

  Xbox just cannot make a high quality gaming system, they just can’t. It’s been 2 decades and they still can’t get 90% of their consoles to last more than a year or 2.

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• sexy_peach@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Not surprising aren’t they sundowning their whole company?

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• CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  After letting go of Tango disregarding their massive success, that part is pretty obvious.

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• tyrant@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This isn’t new. I heard them say years ago “yeah Sony won the console war but that doesn’t matter” implying cloud gaming

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• mrfriki@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s been for a few years now.

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• Sam_Bass@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  May as well. Not like anyone still uses it. They’ve done a bang on job of running everyone off

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• yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Its got to be deliberate. They’ve had so many chances and fucked it, and they’ve had so many successes that they’ve just cancelled or discontinued for seemingly no reason.

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• CubitOom@infosec.pub ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s a 360

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• 64bithero@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  He’s aged so much he looks like a prospector who has been struggling to find any gold at all …

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• Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What can I say but… at least their hardware was on average a little more functional than Sony’s.

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• commander@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Xbox as a 3rd party publisher can succeed. As a console vendor, it’s too late to stop the multiplatform strategy this gen. They’re not Nintendo. At least on the Wii U, Nintendo was still releasing great games and the 3DS sold like 80 million units and Nintendo were also releasing great games there and all those studios would converge on the Switch. They can’t be serious launching a console without a great launch year lineup of exclusives marketed well to convince people that they won’t cut tail and run if a new console doesn’t take off.

  The advice for the new Xbox CEO that I believe in is to rip the bandage off and embrace 3rd party publishing. Timings for a new console seem awful. Fable is supposed to release this year. Forza Horizon Japan this year. Obsidian has already released their two big games last year. Perfect Dark cancelled. Forza Motorsport studio seemingly on life support rather than working on a new entry. New Gears of War should release soon. Elder Scrolls VII I’m not betting on that before the 2030s. Also these unreleased announced games are marketed as multiplatform already. Is it going to be another attempt at a Halo as the launch title after a string of crowd goes mild Halo releases

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