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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Once you’ve tried VIM, you’ll never go back.

  Mostly because you won’t be able to exit VIM.

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  • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I would use word for this, but I can’t close vim. I guess I’m learning LaTeX.

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    • toynbee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Last night, I was talking to my brother - who’s a mathematician by trade - and learned the following from him:

      LaTeX is Leslie Lamport’s (hence La) macro package on top of TeX.

      I’ve never used it, but for around fifteen years I’ve been working around people who do … And yet I never knew that.

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    • chocrates@piefed.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      :term your way to freedom

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  • famijoku@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    :q (my face in reaction to this)

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    • toynbee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’d be more impressive if you went ZZ.

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  • bigfondue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    :q!

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    • EffortlessEffluvium@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What a strange emoticon…

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  • ttyybb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ya, the first few times I used vim (well neovim) I exited by closing the terminal

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• DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This why LibreOffice called out Microsoft for using “complex” file formats to lock in Office users

  neowin.net/…/libreoffice-calls-out-microsoft-for-…

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  • Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You using complex file formats because of user lock in

    Me using complex file formats because my code case is shit.

    We are not the same

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• chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Want to edit the header just on page 6? Or feel like being sexy and having a single page in landscape or a different size?

  Easy! Just make a bunch of separate documents, export them as PDFs, and merge them in Adobe Acrobat.

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  • Soleos@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I agree lots of things about word sucks. But FYI single page landscape is achieved by using two section breaks. It’s not ideal, but its somewhat understandable given how styles are prioritized. I’ve tried others that work well, but they also suffer on things that word does well that we take for granted.

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    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The way it should be handled is to just let me rotate a single fucking page. It’s 2025 and there is zero excuse for that bullshit.

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• Sharlot@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The real miracle isn’t Word’s features, it’s how it’s still the default after decades of collective pain.

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  • banause@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    !yourjokebutworse@lemmy.world

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• Feedback17@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Never understood the attraction. It sucks.

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• BootLoop@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Use LibreOffice

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  • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I used LibreOffice Writer for my coursework the past semester, and when I used my spouse’s Windows computer to double check the images were correctly placed before submitting a paper they were on completely different pages. This was when I saved it as a .docx, because the only two options accepted were .docx or pdf. I wound up doing everything as a pdf if I needed images, but I think LibreOffice doesn’t have a save as pdf option? Or if it did I missed it, I just used Google Docs to save it as a pdf.

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    • theorangeninja@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      IIRC you have to use the “Export as” option instead of the “Save as” for a .pdf file.

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    • bufalo1973@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      LibreOffice has a native export to PDF. And, if you use (almost) any Linux, you have a PDF printer included.

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    • nabladabla@sopuli.xyz ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There’s a button in the toolbar to export to pdf

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  • other_cat@piefed.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve been enjoying OnlyOffice myself! (LibreOffice is fine, I just like the UI of OnlyOffice more.)

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    LibreOffice is as good as Word. Which sadly means there are still no really good document editors out there.

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    • BootLoop@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah but it’s free.

      Also there may be no good document editors but there is a good typesetting language.

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• Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m old enough to remember Microsoft Works.

  I miss the simplicity of those days…

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I dunno, having two different word processors was kind of confusing

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Three. Wordpad also existed.

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  • brainwashed@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Apple‘s office suit is the closest thing to it we have today I think.

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• red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    !antiquememesroadshow@lemmy.world

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    • red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I felt so happy to remember this >20 year old image when I saw the title of this post. I remember finding it very funny back then. Anyway, what’s the appraisal? Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    would you send that to my mom please?

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• uncouple9831@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If you can’t ignore a spelling error in word you’re just not competent and need to learn how to use the tool. Sorry.

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  • frostysauce@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Exactly. Right-click the word, hit ignore.

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• arschfidel@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s how I feel about most Microsoft products actually.

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  • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That was my first thought too. Somehow they seem to be able to make the shittiest possible version of everything they attempt, and yet it almost always becomes the standard that everyone uses.

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  • Aljernon@lemmy.today ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I feel like Microsoft products steadily get worse over time. It’s like they spend money to have their programmers seen how bad a product gets before people will get fed up and dump it.

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    • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Microsoft products can be quite good, but you’re right that they are severely hampered by boneheaded decisions.

      Microsoft Office is still very good overall. Definitely one of Microsoft’s better products. The ribbon UI was revolutionary and is still great.

      The Mac version of Microsoft Office is also a good example of how good and bad versions alternate. Office for Mac 98 was terrible. Office for Mac 2004 was great and and in many ways better than the windows version. 2008 dropped support for Visual Basic. 2011 reintroduced it. Microsoft’s email client for the Mac changed between Outlook, Entourage, then Outlook again with various changes and supporting different features.

      My favorite versions of Microsoft operating systems are: DOS 5, Windows 3.1, NT 4, 98, XP, 7, 10, Phone 8.

      I’m still mad Microsoft canceled their fantastic flight simulator.

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• djdarren@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Word is the proof that God exists and he’s still real fuckin’ pissy about that apple.

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  • ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You can get word for apple

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• HolidayGreed@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Used Microsoft Works in the early 2000’s. Only discontinued in 2009 apparently.

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    At one point, Microsoft was maintaining three different word processors.

    • Word, the top of the line component of the flagship Office product
    • Works, their “for home and small business” product that was honestly good enough for basically everyone, to the point you have to ask why anyone would buy Office, which is almost certainly why Works got canned, and
    • Wordpad, because a GUI OS is basically useless without a rich text editor.

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    • Flamekebab@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Where does Microsoft Write enter the equation?

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• CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I got so frustrated trying to use Word to write a document at work that I just gave up and wrote the whole damn thing in LaTeX.

  Sucks to be the guy who has to edit it when I’m gone.

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You know it’s bad when I prefer a nice markdown editor to word lol

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    • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m preferring pen & paper over here.

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• shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  People aren’t paying for Word, they’re paying for Excel and getting all the other goodies included.

  Yeah, LibreOffice is fine for home use, maybe even really small businesses that don’t have to trade spead sheets with external customers, but Excel is the killer app.

  Calc’s a fine spread sheet program, but it’s frustrating as hell after using Excel for 30+ years. You can’t trust that it will properly import an Excel sheet and it sure won’t do macros.

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  • GreenShimada@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    100% for real. I simply can’t do freelancing Excel work with LibreOffice because I know the 1:1 compatibility falls apart quickly. Basic formulas are about as far as I can trust it.

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The main problem with LibreOffice as a whole is the vast install base of MS Office. If you can work from the beginning in LibreOffice and store things as ODTs and ODSs, you’ll have a fine time. The second you need to work with someone who uses MS Office or deal with legacy documents made in Office, it beats your chin on the floor.

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    • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      LibreOffice Writer has eaten comments on documents several times for me. Word handles comments much better.

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  • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Exactly. Excel is the workhorse. The combo between Exchange and Outlook is the other major major strength of MS Office.

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  • DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is there a decent FOSS alternative to excel? Libre has been my goto for years because I never needed anything more, but just in the kast week I have a new client with some more rigorous needs, and I REALLY dont want to bite the buellt on 365

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    • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not that I know.

      Depending on your exact needs a more specialized tool like SmartSheets or AirTable (browser based, subscription) can be good. WPS office is a little better than Calc in some ways, but no full replacement for Excel.

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    • CorneliusTalmadge@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I will just leave this here in case you need to go the MS route.

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s fair. Imagine if people invested that much time into calc. A person can dream…

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    • toddestan@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The problem is everyone expects Calc to be Excel, including full compatibility with reading and writing of Excel’s file formats. As Excel is a constantly moving target, following that path means you’ll forever be a second-rate Excel that’ll never quite be fully compatible.

      I find Calc to be a fine spreadsheet program myself, though I’m hardly a power user. If you want to use Excel, then just go use Excel.

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  • ethaver@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I straight up used draw.io to create a paper form. I needed high information density so I can't waste space formatting stuff the normal way, I need something more graphical and publisher got axed.

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• lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  $150 a year, you mean

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  • plateee@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s $150 for a “perpetual” license - but that’s not including any one drive storage. The Office 365 SaaS (I think now it’s Microsoft 365?) starts at $99/year.

    I know this because I’ve been trying to find a solution for my sister who *absolutely needs* office to get a workable solution for Linux. Supposedly, she has to submit papers/writing as docx and can’t trust LibreOffice not to fuck up formatting.

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  • tired_n_bored@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And unwanted AI features!

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  • eatCasserole@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Software as a disservice.

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    • blx@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Saad ='(

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• HexesofVexes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  LaTeX supremacy has entered that chat

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  • mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Overfull hbox has left the chat un formatted

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• lime@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  expecting word to edit pdfs is like expecting excel to edit compiled matlab programs

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  • anosym@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Also I don’t see the problem with the other two.
    Move image? Works fine if you select the right wrapping.
    Ignore spelling mistake? Right click -> ignore once / ignore all / add to dictionary

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    • arudesalad@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      From my experience with word, ignore spelling mistake is a lie, it always starts complaining again eventually (and changing spelling from us to uk almost never works)

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    • GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Those without tech literacy love to blame the software.

      A bad workman blames his tools after all.

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• otacon239@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  TGFM - Thank God for Markdown

  Seriously, though. 9 times out of 10, markdown has all the formatting I need for the task at hand. On the rare occasion I need something more, I’m glad I have access to Apple Pages, but it comes with its own set of unique challenges.

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• buttnugget@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Microsoft Word is just fine. I assume most of the hate is for Microsoft because Word works just fine for most people’s use cases.

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• n0respect@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  At least in Word you can rotate an image by degrees. If you want custom rotation in Paint, do you know what’s suggested? Use Word!

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• GreenShimada@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  As someone that recalls using Word 5.5 in DOS for a book report in 5th grade, as with all things, the peak has come and gone.

  IMO, the enshittification curve started about 2010ish when MS demanded internet connectivity for features that didn’t work. Saving PDFs was its peak. RIP Word 2007, which I used well into 2015.

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• some_random_nick@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This comment section is like a hivemind. Can’t go a day without a circlejerk.

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• FE80@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Bring back Word Perfect!

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• CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Word works fine and has just about every feature business users needs. This stuff hasn’t been true in a long time.

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• muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Microsoft office is why I use iWork.

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• daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Why would anyone use that garbage over Libre Office?

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• UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think I have used word, like, twice in my life

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• realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The only thing why this is still the case is because microsoft is bundling everything in a single subscription and is also providing you with software that automatically keeps everything updated.

  The software is shit, but companies using the entire ecosystem probably save money. Sadly.

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• Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s free (aaaaar) and it does everything I need it to. The pdf editing is a dream though. Use something else.

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• TomMasz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Survival of the fittest inescapable.

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